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Analysts: GOP May Be Out of Step With Public

conjur

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55214-2005Mar21.html
Congressional Republicans and President Bush have seized upon the Terri Schiavo case with such fervor that they may find themselves out in front of an American public that is divided over right-to-die issues and deeply leery of government intrusion into family affairs, according to analysts and polls.

Dominating a debate that many Democrats seem eager to avoid, conservative lawmakers and the White House have taken extraordinary steps to allow a federal judge to override the decisions of Florida courts to remove the brain-damaged woman's feeding tube. Antiabortion activists, a key GOP constituency, have cheered the moves, which included Bush rushing back to Washington to sign the bill in the dead of night after a rare Palm Sunday congressional session.

In another sign of the priority that the GOP has placed on the Schiavo matter, they have let it trump their traditional calls for a limited federal judiciary and respecting the "sanctity of marriage."

Bush said yesterday that his decision to fly back from his Texas ranch to the White House to sign the legislation gave Schiavo's parents "another opportunity to save their daughter's life." Speaking in Tucson before an event promoting his plan to restructure Social Security, he said: "This is a complex case with serious issues. But in extraordinary circumstances like this, it is wise to err on the side of life."

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Rather than incurring the cost of flying back to Washington on Air Force One -- pegged in 1999 at $34,000 an hour -- Bush could have signed the bill in Texas a few hours later without significantly endangering Schiavo's life, critics said. Not only had doctors estimated that she could live for up to two weeks without the feeding tube, but a federal judge was not expected to hear the case until today.

"Obviously, Bush could have signed the bill in Texas," said Dan Bartlett, a senior counselor to Bush. But, he added, despite the estimates of how long Schiavo could live without her feeding tube, "it would be very hard for anyone to live with themselves" if Schiavo died because of a delay in the signing of the bill into law.
So, Bush decided to waste taxpayer dollars to sign a bill in Washington that he could have done in Texas. And, he rushed back in order to save her life when a Federal judge wasn't even going to hear the case for another 24 hours.

This bit of grandstanding propaganda is going to come back and bite them in the ass....hard.
 

Darkhawk28

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Neocons have no scrupples so everything is fair game. Exploitation is expected and encouraged.
 

Genx87

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Indeed, that is why they were all over black churches a week before the election. Oh wait.....
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Yeah, this really bit them in the ass...hard :roll:
"going to"


Although, I know it's hard for you read and respond with something intelligent. It's incredibly hard.'

Now, how was it CsG put it? Oh yes.


"Piss off, troll"
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Genx87
You think in 3 months anybody will remember this?

With people like you, I doubt you'd remember this, even if these people shot your dog in your backyard.
 

Genx87

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That is original. Lets see how long you guys stay on this subject and you are dedicated. I predict within 2 weeks you will be onto another tirade about how Bush is Hitler and will destory the known universe. So to think the avg joe on the street will even remember or care about this in 3 months is wishful thinking.

Something that is a pre-requisite for this to come back and bite somebody in the arse

 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Genx87
That is original. Lets see how long you guys stay on this subject and you are dedicated. I predict within 2 weeks you will be onto another tirade about how Bush is Hitler and will destory the known universe. So to think the avg joe on the street will even remember or care about this in 3 months is wishful thinking.

Something that is a pre-requisite for this to come back and bite somebody in the arse

So I take it you're lower than the average joe then?
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: Genx87
That is original. Lets see how long you guys stay on this subject and you are dedicated. I predict within 2 weeks you will be onto another tirade about how Bush is Hitler and will destory the known universe. So to think the avg joe on the street will even remember or care about this in 3 months is wishful thinking.

Something that is a pre-requisite for this to come back and bite somebody in the arse

Bush IS hitler, him and his RepubliTALIBAN cronies just took a sh1t on the constitution and seperation of powers in order to score brownie points with the FUN-DA-MENTAL base of his.
 

Genx87

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So I take it you're lower than the average joe then?

Explain to us how you came to that conclusion based on what I wrote.

This will be entertaining.

Bush IS hitler, him and his RepubliTALIBAN cronies just took a sh1t on the constitution and seperation of powers in order to score brownie points with the FUN-DA-MENTAL base of his.

A glimpse into the mind of a rabid leftie. Thank you.


Thank you
 

Genx87

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IOW, you have no problem with wastes of taxpayer dollars like this?

Since when have the left cared about wasting taxpayers money?
Granted it can be viewed as a waste but do you think somebody like Ted Kennedy has any room to rant about wasting taxpayers money on something like this?

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Genx87
So I take it you're lower than the average joe then?

Explain to us how you came to that conclusion based on what I wrote.

This will be entertaining.

Bush IS hitler, him and his RepubliTALIBAN cronies just took a sh1t on the constitution and seperation of powers in order to score brownie points with the FUN-DA-MENTAL base of his.

A glimpse into the mind of a rabid leftie. Thank you.


Thank you
Doesn't mean they weren't wrong though. 3 months after the Elian Gonzales debacle the public forgot all about the Republican grandstanding regarding that incident too.

Even if the public does remember, as far as issues goes these things pale in comparison to other issues that the public sees as more pressing.

 

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Even if the public does remember, as far as issues goes these things pale in comparison to other issues that the public sees as more pressing.

Exactly

Then why the grandstanding in the first place.... answer: exploitation.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Indeed, that is why they were all over black churches a week before the election. Oh wait.....

hahahaha I would looooooooove to see the bush or rummy step even near a black church or neighborhood around here.
The even smallest mention of bush around my neighbors sends the mothers into a rage.
:laugh: "They ain't takin my baby!" I hear it almost daily.
They would get a beatdown like their mommas never gave them.
I hear more f*** bush coming from their kids then I did at the protest the other day...
Don't even get me started about what they think of mz. rice.. they call HER something nasty that starts with "house"....

Keep living your white suburban lie.....

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: Genx87
IOW, you have no problem with wastes of taxpayer dollars like this?

Since when have the left cared about wasting taxpayers money?
Granted it can be viewed as a waste but do you think somebody like Ted Kennedy has any room to rant about wasting taxpayers money on something like this?
What does the left/Ted Kennedy have to do with this thread? Stick to the topic please and answer the question.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Genx87
Indeed, that is why they were all over black churches a week before the election. Oh wait.....

hahahaha I would looooooooove to see the bush or rummy step even near a black church or neighborhood around here.
The even smallest mention of bush around my neighbors sends the mothers into a rage.
:laugh: "They ain't takin my baby!" I hear it almost daily.
They would get a beatdown like their mommas never gave them.

Keep living your white suburban lie.....
LOL, we all know that Kerry and Kennedy have their fingers on the pulse of the Inner Cities:laugh:

Different parties, same Bullsh!t.

 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Genx87
Indeed, that is why they were all over black churches a week before the election. Oh wait.....

hahahaha I would looooooooove to see the bush or rummy step even near a black church or neighborhood around here.
The even smallest mention of bush around my neighbors sends the mothers into a rage.
:laugh: "They ain't takin my baby!" I hear it almost daily.
They would get a beatdown like their mommas never gave them.

Keep living your white suburban lie.....
LOL, we all know that Kerry and Kennedy have their fingers on the pulse of the Inner Cities:laugh:

Different parties, same Bullsh!t.

I will make sure to ask today what a few people think about those men.
I saw MANY jk signs around the election.
We have a LOT of minoritys here a lot of them from china and a lot of them black.
83% Kerry that should speak for itself.
bush's support relies on uninformed isolated white suburbanites -you could draw a freakin line from suburb to city by district votes.
The further isolated from reality of america and fellow americans guess what color it is.
scared whites huddling for big daddy redneckkk bush to protect them the boogeyman.

fear sells and the uninformed are buying.
 

Genx87

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Then why the grandstanding in the first place.... answer: exploitation.

I dont think it was grandstanding at all. When something like this happens in the criminal courts there is a federal review before the person is put to death through actions of the govt. The state court ruled the tube to be removed. The repubs wanted a federal court to review the case and make sure her constitutional rights were not violated. They got what they wanted and the federal judge is upholding the states ruling.

I think many people who supported the legislative action from a realistic standpoint are fine with this. In all reality I am surprised there isnt a natural progression for cases like these to a federal court.

"They ain't takin my baby!" I hear it almost daily.

And we are called sheeple? lol

Keep living your white suburban lie.....

Will do and will continue to enjoy being able to take evening walks without the threat of a mugging. I can leave my car in the driveway without the threat of it being stolen. And above all I can go home to a house that saw a 22% increase in value last year.

What does the left/Ted Kennedy have to do with this thread? Stick to the topic please and answer the question.

You are implying this will bite the repubs in the ass. It sure looks like the monetary costs are one of your reasonings for your theory. But I ask who is going to come out and exploit this from the left and make this bite the repubs in the arse? Nobody has a leg to stand on if they are going to complain about money.

LOL, we all know that Kerry and Kennedy have their fingers on the pulse of the Inner Cities

Different parties, same Bullsh!t.

Red Dawn is that you? :D