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Analysts claim Cisco got shafted by APPLE over iphone name cave in

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I disagree. I covered Cisco as an equity analyst for 4 years and while Apple might get all the attention, the guys at Cisco are no idiots. They are some of the smartest guys out there and its no accident that they are the largest tech company in market cap out there. John Chambers is a fantastic CEO and despite what people think of Steve Jobs, Chambers is no slouch either.

I'm pretty sure the companies both reached a happy medium.

For the record, I've never heard of either of those two shops or equity analysts. They are probably just trying to say something controversial in order to get noticed. Not untypical.
 
*inside information*

Cisco is in the communication business and they mean to own it all. They are in no way direct competitors with apple. The officers met with each other and figured out the best course of action.

Welcome to the Human Network.
 
Originally posted by: theprodigalrebel
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Cisco never made anything important anyway. Apple all the way baby.
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Huh? (Noobish comment follows) I thought the backbone (right word?) of the whole Internet was powered by some very high-end Cisco hardware? 😕
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No. It's a rabbit hop between Cisco and Juniper for Internet routers. Competition FTW.
 
cisco only decided to call it's phones iphones last year, and tried to apply the name change retroactively. in fact, it had held on to the iphones name, but never used it. you are not allowed to accumulate and sit on tradenames without using them, with the sole intention of preventing other companies from using the names. cisco didn't use the tradename for a considerable number of years and legally has forfeit the right to keep it. Cisco's behavior on this issue was pretty dubious. They actually photochopped old product photos to fool the regulatory bodies into believing they had been using the iphone name for years.
 
I'd gladly pay $600 for an iphone, but I can't believe it lacks UMTS! I tether my LG CU500 and surf via 3G roughly every coupla weeks. Have to wait for the reviews. Wonder why they didn't buy a 3G compatible power amplifier module and transceiver, its not like they are building those themselves anyway..
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Cisco never made anything important anyway. Apple all the way baby.
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actually compared to cisco apple has contributed nothing to the computer industry,
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
cisco only decided to call it's phones iphones last year, and tried to apply the name change retroactively. in fact, it had held on to the iphones name, but never used it. you are not allowed to accumulate and sit on tradenames without using them, with the sole intention of preventing other companies from using the names. cisco didn't use the tradename for a considerable number of years and legally has forfeit the right to keep it. Cisco's behavior on this issue was pretty dubious. They actually photochopped old product photos to fool the regulatory bodies into believing they had been using the iphone name for years.
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DaveSimmons (as usual) and you are on the mark here.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Yeah the ipod bit is a bit of a deal breaker for many unless they have like a 2000+ mA battery in there which they can't, based on size.. Go to gym in the morning for a couple hours and phone runs out at 2 pm while you're at work? Not good. Hopfully this wont be the case.. I will be watching the early adopters and power issues.

I think I pay $15 for a data package with cingular (thanks for reminding me to cancel it) its worthless for me - again everything on phone is too small even for email IMO.

3. Thats what I think will happen $400 or so like the PDA's cingular sells. Even the KAZR is selling like crazy at $250 so add in iphones features and look I'd $400 or so most customers would find agreeable.
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cingular might have been 15 in the past that you were grandfathered in... its 40 now. to me data is vitally important for a cell phone and the reason i went with sprint was high speed data for a small price (they are the only ones offering unlimited data for 15/month). since my q runs windows mobile i can stream my tv/recorded tv/all of my music (and i have 30 gigs) anywhere i get cell coverage (thanks to webguide/orb). and getting things like realtime weather maps, movie info, email anywhere on the go is very useful to me.

i think the ipone will start at 600 to get the few people that must have it and by the end of the year will be under 400. if it stays at 600 very few will buy one esp when they can show a blackjack at 199.

and im not sold on the iphone ui (not that windows is any better but atleast we can use it).... some things about it look very slick and some look very stupid (but i am holding off going one way or the other till i actually get to play with it)


 
Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: Zebo
will easily drop $600 for iphone after seeing its features and look. So will everyone I know.
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You know a whole lot of dumb people.
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you would think the op would get insurance dealie after he lost one, but no.... haha
 
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Zebo
will easily drop $600 for iphone after seeing its features and look. So will everyone I know.
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Wanna bet?
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How much? When people see thier friends with one theyll have to have it. It'll be a must have fashion accesory way Apple will pimp it ad nausum combined with it's inate coolness. $500 is nothing in grand sheme and apple haters and geeks cant move market either way a proven by continued ipod sales. Inferior product for more money keeps right on selling.
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
RAZR's are free? I paid $150 for mine (then $350 x 2 after I lost a couple) and will easily drop $600 for iphone after seeing its features and look. So will everyone I know.
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I'd be with you on this *if* they supported third party apps, like Goodlink, AND put up 3G.

I can live without 3G, but lack of Corporate email access is a deal breaker. 🙁
 
*looks around the IDF*

Wow...yeah, Cisco sucks...I just glanced over about $7million worth of Cisco stuff...they really suck.
 
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Zebo
RAZR's are free? I paid $150 for mine (then $350 x 2 after I lost a couple) and will easily drop $600 for iphone after seeing its features and look. So will everyone I know.
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I'd be with you on this *if* they supported third party apps, like Goodlink, AND put up 3G.

I can live without 3G, but lack of Corporate email access is a deal breaker. 🙁
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Sorry but what's 3G do for ya? I have something that says 3G on the screen of my RAZRsee no difference from previous RAZR w/o.

Nothings set in stone - Im sure Apple is listening to your concerns and will offer pop/imap services.
 
Originally posted by: deathkoba
Cisco never made anything important anyway. Apple all the way baby.
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Seriously, I HOPE this was sarcasm. If not, that has got to be one of the most retarded things I've ever heard.

Edit: Ah, I guess I got suckered in too. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Zebo
will easily drop $600 for iphone after seeing its features and look. So will everyone I know.
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Wanna bet?
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How much? When people see thier friends with one theyll have to have it. It'll be a must have fashion accesory way Apple will pimp it ad nausum combined with it's inate coolness. $500 is nothing in grand sheme and apple haters and geeks cant move market either way a proven by continued ipod sales. Inferior product for more money keeps right on selling.
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You're missing part of the big picture. The majority of people who buy iPods and cell phones are looking for SMALLER devices. Why do you think the Nano and RAZR lines are so popular? Most women are not going to tote around that large ugly phone in their small purses or want something of that size. Most men want real functionality and will carry something like a Treo or Blackberry. You're also limiting the market for corporate uses. Cingular has nothing over Sprint or Verizon in the US.

Not to mention that most people want a phone to have buttons. It's primarily a phone. Do you know what a pain in the a$$ it is to use a touch screen for a phone?

All in all I think it's doomed.
 
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