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Analysis of American Foreign Policy...

In this highly divided and partisan political environment I thought that I would address the issue of American foreign policy. It is our foreign policy which receives the most attention - and which draws the most ire from the global community - but rarely have people stopped and analyzed it.

With this in mind I'd like to present just such an analysis for your consumption.

American Foreign Policy as Arbitrary Decisions

Perhaps the biggest criticism of American foreign policy is that it is, to a meaningful extent, arbitrary. This is the claim which underlies the idea that we should not have attacked Sadam unless we were also willing to attack other dictators (because we arbitrarily chose Sadam from a field of possible dictators to attack).

I would submit that this system - relating to individual countries on a case by case basis, rather than a principled approach to foreign policy - is a necessity of contemporary geopolitics.

Let us explore the issue vis a vis Weapons of Mass Destruction and the dictators who have them. The American approach has been one of a 2x2 matrix consisting of both intent and action, which can either be good or bad. Thus a country can have:

a good intent, good action (such countries promise not to threaten us and do not seek to find a way to threaten us). Examples: Western Europe

a good intent, bad action (those countries which profess to not seek WMD while deceptively doing so). Examples: Israel, Pakistan

a bad intent, good action (those countries which profess to seek WMD while not actively doing so). These countries are those which threaten us without any means with which to threaten, a "bark worse than bite" kind of scenario. This is the situation which ultimately greeted us in Iraq.

a bad intent, bad action (those countries which have WMD and threaten us with their use). Examples: North Korea, and the Soviet Union during the Cold War

Here, then, we find that the last two (bad intent) are quite different: one is inherently dangerous while the other only attempts to appear so by bluffing.

Also in the first two we can see that the good intent, bad action can in fact become elevated ("enlightened") to good, good if they declare their weapons programs. The reason why a country might choose this option is clearly spelled out by the Israeli choice to adopt this strategy: it maintains plausible deniability (thus avoiding inspection regimens) while at the same time has the same benefits as if it had chosen to threaten - the opponent believes that the other side has a "nuclear option" of last resort.

How, then, do we describe the American policy relating to WMD possession by countries? Why is it that we allow Israel to pass while rebuking North Korea? What does it mean that we escalate against Iraq while only threatening North Korea?

Part of the critique that American foreign policy is arbitrary results from these types of situations.

Competing Interests

When it comes to issues for which America is widely looked to as an examplar we find even more confusion. Consider, for example, the issue of human rights.

We take two very different approaches to human rights in the cases of China and Afghanistan. We firmly derided the Taliban for their widespread abuse of human rights while barely confronting the Chinese with their offenses. Why, then, can we so harshly rebuke one country while giving the other a slap on the wrist?

The key to this is that our foreign relation is not comprised of a single bellweather issue. In the case of China we have to balance our belief in human rights against the potential economic consequences of jeopardizing our relationship. In China, unlike in Afghanistan, significant commercial interests dictate that we not be heavy handed in criticisms of Chinese policies towards human rights.

Thus the issue of human rights - unlike the issue of WMD - is resolved on the basis of principle. America has decided that economic benefits take precedance over human rights.

We can then infer that those countries which the US has rebuked for human rights violations represent those countries who do not have significant economic ties to the US. This can also explain our failure to criticize other countries who display egregious human rights violations - we do not speak out because we fear the economic loss. This explains our relationship with Saudi Arabia, the country responsible for radical fundamentalist Islam and horrid treatment of women.

Principlism vs. Cherry Picking

In the first example - WMD - we made our foreign policy decisions on the basis of actions from the other country. In the next case we only examined principles which America considers important without regard to the country in question. Americans believe that women should be treated well everywhere, regardless of the country, but yet Saudi Arabia has not been rebuked.

This two situations - the country-specific and the country-independent - have to be calculated for each issue for each nation. This, inevitably, leads to a foreign policy that differs among the various countries.

This is, in fact, the same reasoning that parents and teachers use when deciding how to reward or punish children.

It is not that the American foreign policy is arbitrary, it is rather that the world is complicated and a unique balance of issues and relations must be struck for each country.

The Role of the Status Quo

Lastly our analysis of foreign policy must address the issue of the status quo, or the world as it is. It is not the case that a President or Legislator receives the world anew, to create as he would wish, but rather that they inherit a world already populated with issues and nationalisms and a myriad other conditions.

Those in charge must then make the decision whether it is better to disrupt the status quo and attempt to correct a problem, or rather to leave things as they are. The role of this can not be overstated - unlike what many people believe the ability of any nation to modify a problem is not as powerful as they would wish, and sometimes the status quo, however bad it "feels", represents a draw that is not worth disturbing.

Take, for example, the whole history of the Iraq problem. It was George HW Bush (Senior, 41) who waged the first Gulf War. This ended with Iraq being split into several distinct "no fly zones" patrolled by American forces. Clinton then inherited a problem and made the choice that the status quo was better than the problems which would result from enforcing UN mandates or removing Sadam from power. It can be argued that leaving Sadam in power - despite the horrible acts which he committed - was, in fact, better than the problems created by removing him. The status quo was better than the alternative.

This line of thinking is very powerful. It rules, for example, our decisions not to invade Mexico to clean up Mexican corruption; not to reform the electoral college, not to nationalize healthcare, etc.

The conclusion, then, is that the world is far from perfect and our policies must face this reality - sometimes the best that we can hope for is nothing.

Conclusion

This is my short, cursory analysis of American foreign policy. Discuss.
 
First off, welcome to AT.

The way I see it, American foreign policy can be especially arbitrary due to the nature of our government. Every 4 years, we can have a different big kahuna who calls all the shots. Naturally, this leads to some dramatic policy flip flops. Back in the 80s the American government supported the Taliban and Saddam Hussein. Many people seem to have forgotten that fact today. I only hope that the world can forgive the United States for the many tresspasses we have committed with Dubya at the helm and not hold the future leaders of the United States too accountable for his actions.
 
I don't read too well so I skipped your post, but your name makes you look like a commie sympathizer. 10 to 1 you're another damn liberal.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I don't read too well so I skipped your post, but your name makes you look like a commie sympathizer. 10 to 1 you're another damn liberal.

Liberals suck!
 
This line of thinking is very powerful. It rules, for example, our decisions not to invade Mexico to clean up Mexican corruption; not to reform the electoral college, not to nationalize healthcare, etc.
I disagree with your assessment that status quo is our reasoning behind any of those, although a good example of status quo reasoning is our not rising the retirement age for social security to the same part of the death bell-curve as it was when it was started.

Naturally, this leads to some dramatic policy flip flops. Back in the 80s the American government supported the Taliban and Saddam Hussein.
what is good for America one day will not nessarily be good the next, that the world changes does not mean we are arbitrary.
 
Good analysis, FTP.

In this model, how does the invasion of Iraq fit in? It seems on a cursory view that Iraq was invaded more because it wasn't a threat than that it was. Which seems a bit irrational, considering that the rhetoric surrounding the war focused on how great a threat Iraq was. On what principle was the government acting? My own view, admittedly influenced by ideology, is that the current administration has added a principle of the "propogation of American force" in order to maintain a "Pax Americana." At least, this is what some senior members of the administration were touting during the late 90s. Which asks the question:

What place does electoral change play in your model? How much does the balance change when the administration turns over?

Also, could the appearance of arbitrariness in your foreign policy affect the reactions of other states vis a vis your nation? Could this be worked into your game matrix when you repeat the plays over time?
 
My own view, admittedly influenced by ideology, is that the current administration has added a principle of the "propogation of American force" in order to maintain a "Pax Americana."
in order to keep American credibility around the world we couldn?t allow sadam to keep on proclaiming that he won that Iraq war and evidencing it by not cooperating with un inspectors.

We use our might to keep the majority of wealth in American hands, of course, but we also use it to make sure that our allies are well taken care of so as to keep them our allies.
 
Two things:
One, inspectors were on the ground, and Iraq was cooperating enough that they thought that more time would be useful.

Two, what Saddam says had little influence in the rest of the world. He was trying to save face after a humiliating defeat. Everyone could see that. Find me one world leader who took his assertions seriously.

As for your second point, i can see that using force to maintain a Pax Americana could be a legitimate policy. What irks me is the lack of openness on the part of your government. If they said, "we need to invade Iraq to ensure that American force is respected around the world in order to maintain our current political and economic position" I would have alot fewer problems with the current administration. But they didn't say that.
 
?This is, in fact, the same reasoning that parents and teachers use when deciding how to reward or punish children.?

You can?t compare American foreign policy, as parents/teachers dealing with children under their care, because America is not the world police or world policy maker.

"What experience and history teach is this - that people and governments never have learned anything from history, or acted on principles." -- Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
 
If they said, "we need to invade Iraq to ensure that American force is respected around the world in order to maintain our current political and economic position" I would have alot fewer problems with the current administration. But they didn't say that.
sure they do! Along with a laundry list of other social changes that will benefit America by helping American decadence reach the barbaric regions of the world.

You?d have gotten this message in the run-up to war if you?d watch Fox News Channel 🙂

One, inspectors were on the ground, and Iraq was cooperating enough that they thought that more time would be useful.

Two, what Saddam says had little influence in the rest of the world.
just having the little punk in the corner thumbing his nose at you is bad for your respectability, and sadam was an easy target. We could motivate the American people to go for it, and could be used to show that, although a democracy, we do have teeth outside of what the UN will sanction.

Sure Iran is a more reasonable target, but they are also a much harder target. Even though working for containment, sadam was still not granting proper full access to inspectors. Further, no matter what was or wasn?t their, he didn?t follow the proper UN mandated procedure for handing over the WMDs he declared at the end of the Gulf war.


The word of the inspectors is circumspect because of the out-right theft from the oil-for-food program that was going on in the UN.

More time would have been very expensive to the US, as keeping troupes sitting around doing nothing was costing a lot of money.
 
The word of the inspectors is circumspect because of the out-right theft from the oil-for-food program that was going on in the UN.

What do the inspectors have to do with that program? If some FDA officials take bribes from pharmeceutical companies, does that mean we don't trust the EPA decisions regarding its plants?

More time would have been very expensive to the US, as keeping troupes sitting around doing nothing was costing a lot of money.

More money than what you are spending now?
 
What do the inspectors have to do with that program? If some FDA officials take bribes from pharmeceutical companies, does that mean we don't trust the EPA decisions regarding its plants?
Political pressures on inspectors from nations who are on the take for billions is something completely different from individuals in particular us government agency being bribed. At very least it?s a good reason why we couldn?t get France on board with an action that all most government?s, including France, knew to be the right thing to do.

The only question was timing, which is no good reason to try to discredit the world benefiting actions we where about to embark on.

More money than what you are spending now?
yes, because one way or another: shy of sadam turning over a stock pile of WMDs, which we all know now is impossible, we where going into Iraq.
 
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
What do the inspectors have to do with that program? If some FDA officials take bribes from pharmeceutical companies, does that mean we don't trust the EPA decisions regarding its plants?
Political pressures on inspectors from nations who are on the take for billions is something completely different from individuals in particular us government agency being bribed. At very least it?s a good reason why we couldn?t get France on board with an action that all most government?s, including France, knew to be the right thing to do.

The only question was timing, which is no good reason to try to discredit the world benefiting actions we where about to embark on.

More money than what you are spending now?
yes, because one way or another: shy of sadam turning over a stock pile of WMDs, which we all know now is impossible, we where going into Iraq.


I've never heard about political pressure being placed on the inspectors by France & co. Could you supply likage? Also, weren't the inspectors operating under different angencies within the UN?

Also, I think that the world questions the benifit we have recieved from the US invasion. I think we'd rather have your military might focused on more serious threats right now.

Do you think that the inevitablility of invasion was a good thing? Do you support your government's use of an ultimatum to which it was impossible for Iraq to comply?

Edit: Sp
 
no link, but to think that billions in stolen oil money doesn?t speak volumes in tailoring a recommendation is naive.

Also, I think that the world questions the benefit we have received from the US invasion.
sure they do, but 20 years from now is he only time we can get a proper perspective on the situation. But before the invasion little question existed about the utility of removing Sadam.

I think we'd rather have your military might focused on more serious threats right now.
fight the small fight so you don't have to fight a bunch of big ones. Good plan, worked with Libya, we'll see if it works with Iran and North Korea.

Do you think that the inevitability of invasion was a good thing?
I think that Clinton was to light-handed with them and that bush was put in a situation that needed to be resolved
Do you support your government's use of an ultimatum to which it was impossible for Iraq to comply?
Sure i support my government in declaring all the ultimatums we need in foreign relations with nations that lack WMDs.

If I was afraid of Iraq attacking the us, or thought we wouldn?t follow though with our commitment then I?d have a problem with ultimatums.

Did I think sadam would ever directly attack the US with WMDs?
Heck no!

But he might have passed some chems off to someone for some good o?le fashioned Jew killn?.

And we're as committed to the defense of Israel as we are the defense of Canada.*though i must cow-tow to the Canadian submarine's military might*
 
You completely missed the point. Time to go get a book on "reasoning."

The analogy is not, and never was, that America acts as the world police in the same way that parents act as police.

The argument was that the way that America (and all countries) determines its foreign policies is one of going on a case by case, country by country basis rather than one of taking broad principles and grouping countries based on how they fare in terms of the principle.

Much as a parent, in deciding how to deal with two children who are arguing about "who got the most candy for dessert?," so, too, do countries determine their foreign policies on an ad hoc basis. If two children are fighting it scarcely matters to a parent who actually had the most but rather that they stop fighting - rather than seek out greater issues of justice the parent will simply behave towards each child as that child has interacted with the parent.

So, for example, if we have two children who are arguing over candy and one is a liar and the other always tells the truth (not an uncommon scenario for children) the parent would take the side of the truth teller. The fact that the candy ought to be evenly divided does not enter into the decision making process.

The reasoning of the two is logically equivalent and a good analogy.

Where you took your idea about America as the world policeman is beyond my ability to grasp but you, sir, need to work on your reading and reasoning abilities. Apples and oranges.
 
Originally posted by: ForThePeople
The analogy is not, and never was, that America acts as the world police in the same way that parents act as police.

The argument was that the way that America (and all countries) determines its foreign policies is one of going on a case by case, country by country basis rather than one of taking broad principles and grouping countries based on how they fare in terms of the principle.

and what are these 'broad principles and grouping countries based on how they fare in terms of the
principle' ?

would it have anything to do with whether a particular country is a police state that conducts aggresive
wars, murders hundreds of thousands of its own citizens, harbors wmd weapons/expertise/development
and research programs, violates 17 consecutive u.n. resolutions ?

i'm not trying to be specific for fear of reducing this to the 'case by case' basis which so irks you. but
under whatever you would define as 'broad principles', do the characteristics i set above come close
to satisfying this criteria ?
 
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
no link, but to think that billions in stolen oil money doesn?t speak volumes in tailoring a recommendation is naive.

Umm, how did France have more influence over the inspectors than the Americans? Why do you think that pressure from the French would be more effective than that which was almost certainly coming from the Americans. If the OFF program and the inspections regime were administrated separately, how could one influence the other? Why do you assume that anyone working for the UN is in France's pocket?

sure they do, but 20 years from now is he only time we can get a proper perspective on the situation. But before the invasion little question existed about the utility of removing Sadam.

Here's a question that was raised several times over the utility of removing Saddam: Would the benifits of removing him outweigh the costs? Bush Sr. didn't think so.

fight the small fight so you don't have to fight a bunch of big ones. Good plan, worked with Libya, we'll see if it works with Iran and North Korea.

It's possible. It might work. Both of those countries seem to battening down the hatches right now.

I think that Clinton was to light-handed with them and that bush was put in a situation that needed to be resolved

I disagree. I think that the costs of resolving the situation outweigh the benifits.

Sure i support my government in declaring all the ultimatums we need in foreign relations with nations that lack WMDs.

If I was afraid of Iraq attacking the us, or thought we wouldn?t follow though with our commitment then I?d have a problem with ultimatums.

Perhaps the most intellectually honest conservative position I've heard through this whole debacle. Kudos. Again, I reserve my right to disagree.

Did I think sadam would ever directly attack the US with WMDs?
Heck no!

But he might have passed some chems off to someone for some good o?le fashioned Jew killn?.

Except that he didn't have any. And the inspections could have reassured you of that.

And we're as committed to the defense of Israel as we are the defense of Canada.*though i must cow-tow to the Canadian submarine's military might*

Touche. The bloody things are still leaking. We'd be better off with row boats and fisherman's radar.
 
Originally posted by: ForThePeople
sometimes the best that we can hope for is nothing.

That is basically what we had from 92 to 2001, IMO, and we can weigh the effects of that policy with lots of dead bodies........
 
Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: ForThePeople
sometimes the best that we can hope for is nothing.

That is basically what we had from 92 to 2001, IMO, and we can weigh the effects of that policy with lots of dead bodies........


And how about all the dead bodys since then? How many innocent Afganis and Iraqis died? Now, how many more iraqis and americans are going to die?

Not to mention the fact that the world hates the United States more then ever due to our reckless disregard for world public opinion. Sure there were terrorists targeting the US before. I'll bet you anything there are more now. The body count will be higher in the future, thanks the policy you advocate.
 
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