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Analog Cable available but no broadband?

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edro

Lifer
I just recently moved to BFE.
There are very limited choices on cable/broadband here.

The local cable company offers analog cable, but no broadband.
They say I need to be in a Digital area to get broadband.

Back in the day and at my old house, I had analog cable and broadband through Time Warner.

Did service providers stop transmitting broadband internet over the analog cable system?

🙁
 
Some form of hybrid fiber coax (HFC) network needs to be in place for cable broadband. You're on a true analog only network. Your old place could still be analog to your house but go to fiber/digital farther up the network where their cable modems were.
 
sort of like my siutuation here in Monterey, Calif.....
Silicon Valley is a stones throw away but until recently we had two choice Comcast or AT&T DSL. Both were slow and $$$.
Not profitable to upgrade or install new equipment!!
 
I understand the marketing reasons for having bad choices.

I can get broadband cable through CenturyLink, but not cable TV.
I can get cable TV through Insight, but not broadband.

Both are $40 ea.+ taxes, fees, etc.

It is probably my best and only bet, besides getting Dish or DirecTV for television.
 
Cable TV is a ripoff. Get the dish + broadband. At least you're not in my hell, where comcast lied about availability at the location leaving you in the dark ages.
 
Chances are that company never did offer high-speed internet on their analog cable system, and they're not about to start now. The cable systems I've used for broadband used two different frequency bands. One was up around 775-800 MHz for the download part of the service, above the range where most UHF signals are. Most cable systems can cover frequencies up to 1000 MHZ OK, but some older ones never were upgraded enough to cover much over 500 MHz. The other, for the upload part, was around 5 to 45 MHz (below channel 2, etc.) in a region not used by TV. But this was for a signal generated in your broadband cable modem and sent back up the line. That meant that a cable distribution system originally designed to send signals through amplifiers in only one direction (from their head end to your TV) had to be modified at EVERY distribution amplifier by replacing it with a new design. The new one did the original job (send signals from 50 MHz to 1000 MHz down the line) PLUS and additional task - amplify and send signals from 5 to 45 MHz back UP the line. It isn't cheap to replace every amplifier in a cable system for that purpose, and some systems dimply never did the upgrade.

Have you checked out broadband service from the phone company? I know it has some limits based on your distance from the switch or exchange building that serves your phone, but some are very good. In our home we have ADSL service on our phone line and over the years, with no change in price, they have sped it up from 4 Mb/s to 8 Mb/s and it works great. ADSL modem rental (and free replacement of failed ones) is included in the monthly fee added to the phone bill. In fact, in effect it has replaced cable TV in our house. We canceled cable service outright a year ago and use a dedicated computer to download all the programs we want from Torrent servers via the ADSL service, then watch commercial-free programs on our time schedule, not theirs.
 
I live in BFE too & I guess should count my blessings.

My old place down the driveway cannot get Cable internet. Since I now live closer to the road. I can though. Which took a few phone calls to find out I could. Right across the driveway my neighbor can get DSL. I can't. Odd stuff. I live in boonies too.

My friend is renting / fixing our old place. Trying to get the Internet thing figured out.

Hope you can get something figured out as well.
 
I've pretty much come to terms that we'll have to get satellite broadband when we buy a place in BFE.
 
Paperdoc said:
Chances are that company never did offer high-speed internet on their analog cable system, and they're not about to start now. The cable systems I've used for broadband used two different frequency bands. One was up around 775-800 MHz for the download part of the service, above the range where most UHF signals are. Most cable systems can cover frequencies up to 1000 MHZ OK, but some older ones never were upgraded enough to cover much over 500 MHz. The other, for the upload part, was around 5 to 45 MHz (below channel 2, etc.) in a region not used by TV. But this was for a signal generated in your broadband cable modem and sent back up the line. That meant that a cable distribution system originally designed to send signals through amplifiers in only one direction (from their head end to your TV) had to be modified at EVERY distribution amplifier by replacing it with a new design. The new one did the original job (send signals from 50 MHz to 1000 MHz down the line) PLUS and additional task - amplify and send signals from 5 to 45 MHz back UP the line. It isn't cheap to replace every amplifier in a cable system for that purpose, and some systems dimply never did the upgrade.
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what you're describing, although more or less correct, is a fraction of the cost involved.
 
Leros said:
How can you come to terms with that?!
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😀

Just the way it is, I guess. It's honestly not that bad; we house sit for some friends that have it. It's totally usable, if not a bit laggy.

I would be happy with a 128kbps 2G cell phone connection, honestly. 😛 99.8% of what I do on the internet is chat and browse the web.

I'd take a 2400bps connection if the alternative was no connection at all. 😉 lol

Crow550 said:
Satellite Broadband is expensive, pretty much a little better than dial-up & has really bad caps.
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I don't really want to defend satellite broadband, because it pretty much sucks ass.. But you're a little off. Have you ever tried to use the internet on dialup? I have. It's not pretty, nor fun.. lol.

It's not that slow overall, it's just laggy. Data comes in large chunks. I've gotten over 1mbps down and 250kbps up on our friends connection(HughesNet). Shrug.
 
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The Boston Dangler said:
what you're describing, although more or less correct, is a fraction of the cost involved.
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Yeah, I realize I only touched the surface. For example, many older analog cable systems were built with older cables that had limited bandwidth and excessive line losses which are intolerable for even analog systems in current use. So ALL of the cable infrastructure in those would have to be replaced as well as the distribution amps and quite possibly the splitter boxes. That's a huge cost both in materials and in installation labor!
 
GeekDrew said:
For what it's worth, in my experience, cell is much faster and more reliable than satellite.
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We'll be lucky to have any cell signal at all in the areas we're looking to buy. If a 2G/3G cell signal is close, we'll probably try and use that for internet access, even if it means buying some signal amplifiers and antennas. Satellite is just horrible, but I will take it if the alternative is no internet access.
 
Analog works fine for tv transmission so there are still many areas that use it exclusively.
Some areas like where I live have analog , digital, internet, phone all on the same system, just depends on what they want to spend on the infrastructure.

Check with the phone company. I have DSL . DSL has the advantage of being a dedicated line for your use and not shared with all the neighbors . Distance is a factor but for me I live less than 200ft from the nearest terminal so not an issue.
 
Paperdoc said:
Yeah, I realize I only touched the surface. For example, many older analog cable systems were built with older cables that had limited bandwidth and excessive line losses which are intolerable for even analog systems in current use. So ALL of the cable infrastructure in those would have to be replaced as well as the distribution amps and quite possibly the splitter boxes. That's a huge cost both in materials and in installation labor!
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what you're describing is still only fraction of what's needed, and runs well under a mile. from there it goes to a fiber node which is connected to a headend via glass. then you can help yourself to a boatload of cisco and motorola products. then you have to bring in a fiber backbone, satellites and other stuff. want video on demand? that will be another room full of hard drives. the cost of the air conditioning alone can run into the 1000's of dollars per month.

http://www.google.com/products?q=ci...s_GUCg&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CBYQ_AU
 
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