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An Oriental person is somebody from the Orient (East Asia).

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Nothing really wrong with the word, it was history that makes that word redneck.

OLYMPIA, Wash. - Anyone who studied Asian American history knows that the word ?Oriental? conjures up images of people less than savage as the term was used in Europe and then the United States in the last three centuries. And now the state of Washington has officially acknowledged the term as derogatory and offensive and banned it from all public text. ?Asian? rather than ?Oriental? will be used to refer to the people of the racial category in all government statutes, codes, and regulations, even if many unknowingly interchange the ?O? word with the term ?Asian,? and that covers anything Filipino American.
 
I take offense with having to put "Asian" when I fill out forms that ask for race. The reason is twofold. First, my race is Indian, but my great grandparents went to the Caribbean as indentured laborers. I have nothing in common with real Indians. Second, those real Indians have nothing in common with East Asians (Orientals). The term "Asian" is the most arbitrary.

Edit: Also, Europe and Asia are one continent, Eurasia. There is no such thing as Asia. The Indian "subcontinent" is a separate continent that was smashed into Eurasia.
 
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I take offense with having to put "Asian" when I fill out forms that ask for race. The reason is twofold. First, my race is Indian, but my great grandparents went to the Caribbean as indentured laborers. I have nothing in common with real Indians. Second, those real Indians have nothing in common with East Asians (Orientals). The term "Asian" is the most arbitrary.

Edit: Also, Europe and Asia are one continent, Eurasia. There is no such thing as Asia. The Indian "subcontinent" is a separate continent that was smashed into Eurasia.

and of course siberian russians are asian, arabs are asian, persians are asian, and a whole bunch of other people.

nice edit. that is true. europe is a state of mind more than anything else. hell, did the ancient greeks consider, say, judea and phoenicia to be asian? i'm not sure the word originally applied to anything other than asia minor. though, one would assume there is an asia major. or, that europe applied to anything other than the western shore of the aegean sea
 
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
To each his own...I'm one of those that don't like the word, but I don't go spouting off about it.


me too. I would not like it if someone calls me Oriental.

But back in the days in the U.S., oriental was used in a derogatory way...ie separation of races like "oriental schools."

For more:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=545754
So you don't like being called Oriental because you're not supposed to like being called Oriental. Interesting.
 
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
To each his own...I'm one of those that don't like the word, but I don't go spouting off about it.


me too. I would not like it if someone calls me Oriental.

But back in the days in the U.S., oriental was used in a derogatory way...ie separation of races like "oriental schools."

For more:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=545754
So you don't like being called Oriental because you're not supposed to like being called Oriental. Interesting.

WHERE did you get that conclusion??????????

edit.
I don't like being called Oriental because TO ME I AM NOT ORIENTAL. I AM on the broader sense -- ASIAN AMERICAN, but more precisely VIETNAMSE. I just don't like that term (oriental) being referred to me. Now, if other people are fine with being called Oriental (ie you), then sure, I am not going to go off and be all elitist on you and say you shouldn't like that word blah blah blah because it is derogatory. It is a preference and I prefer not to be called that. I wouldn't like it if someone comes up to me and ask, "hey are you oriental?" Furthermore, i hate it when people try to be cool and say stupid stuff to me like, "konichiwa (sp?)" or any other hellos in different asian languages. If you don't know where I am from, ask. Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you.
 
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
To each his own...I'm one of those that don't like the word, but I don't go spouting off about it.


me too. I would not like it if someone calls me Oriental.

But back in the days in the U.S., oriental was used in a derogatory way...ie separation of races like "oriental schools."

For more:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=545754
So you don't like being called Oriental because you're not supposed to like being called Oriental. Interesting.

WHERE did you get that conclusion??????????

edit.
I don't like being called Oriental because TO ME I AM NOT ORIENTAL. I AM on the broader sense -- ASIAN AMERICAN, but more precisely VIETNAMSE. I just don't like that term (oriental) being referred to me. Now, if other people are fine with being called Oriental (ie you), then sure, I am not going to go off and be all elitist on you and say you shouldn't like that word blah blah blah because it is derogatory. It is a preference and I prefer not to be called that. I wouldn't like it if someone comes up to me and ask, "hey are you oriental?" Furthermore, i hate it when people try to be cool and say stupid stuff to me like, "konichiwa (sp?)" or any other hellos in different asian languages. If you don't know where I am from, ask. Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you.


so then don't call me white... call me european american
 
Originally posted by: matstars
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
To each his own...I'm one of those that don't like the word, but I don't go spouting off about it.


me too. I would not like it if someone calls me Oriental.

But back in the days in the U.S., oriental was used in a derogatory way...ie separation of races like "oriental schools."

For more:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=545754
So you don't like being called Oriental because you're not supposed to like being called Oriental. Interesting.

WHERE did you get that conclusion??????????

edit.
I don't like being called Oriental because TO ME I AM NOT ORIENTAL. I AM on the broader sense -- ASIAN AMERICAN, but more precisely VIETNAMSE. I just don't like that term (oriental) being referred to me. Now, if other people are fine with being called Oriental (ie you), then sure, I am not going to go off and be all elitist on you and say you shouldn't like that word blah blah blah because it is derogatory. It is a preference and I prefer not to be called that. I wouldn't like it if someone comes up to me and ask, "hey are you oriental?" Furthermore, i hate it when people try to be cool and say stupid stuff to me like, "konichiwa (sp?)" or any other hellos in different asian languages. If you don't know where I am from, ask. Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you.


so then don't call me white... call me european american


I never did call you white. k thanks bye.
 
Originally posted by: Howard
I don't understand how anybody can find this offensive.

<- Oriental

If someone tells me that something offends them, I stop doing it. It does not have to offend me.....

 
Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Originally posted by: Howard
I don't understand how anybody can find this offensive.

<- Oriental

If someone tells me that something offends them, I stop doing it. It does not have to offend me.....


Siddhartha knows best 😉.

btw, did you ever read that book?
 
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: matstars
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
To each his own...I'm one of those that don't like the word, but I don't go spouting off about it.


me too. I would not like it if someone calls me Oriental.

But back in the days in the U.S., oriental was used in a derogatory way...ie separation of races like "oriental schools."

For more:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=545754
So you don't like being called Oriental because you're not supposed to like being called Oriental. Interesting.

WHERE did you get that conclusion??????????

edit.
I don't like being called Oriental because TO ME I AM NOT ORIENTAL. I AM on the broader sense -- ASIAN AMERICAN, but more precisely VIETNAMSE. I just don't like that term (oriental) being referred to me. Now, if other people are fine with being called Oriental (ie you), then sure, I am not going to go off and be all elitist on you and say you shouldn't like that word blah blah blah because it is derogatory. It is a preference and I prefer not to be called that. I wouldn't like it if someone comes up to me and ask, "hey are you oriental?" Furthermore, i hate it when people try to be cool and say stupid stuff to me like, "konichiwa (sp?)" or any other hellos in different asian languages. If you don't know where I am from, ask. Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you.


so then don't call me white... call me european american


I never did call you white. k thanks bye.

so you never used the term white to call somebody of european descent? if u say yes ur lying kkthxbye
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I take offense with having to put "Asian" when I fill out forms that ask for race. The reason is twofold. First, my race is Indian, but my great grandparents went to the Caribbean as indentured laborers. I have nothing in common with real Indians. Second, those real Indians have nothing in common with East Asians (Orientals). The term "Asian" is the most arbitrary.

Edit: Also, Europe and Asia are one continent, Eurasia. There is no such thing as Asia. The Indian "subcontinent" is a separate continent that was smashed into Eurasia.

and of course siberian russians are asian, arabs are asian, persians are asian, and a whole bunch of other people.

nice edit. that is true. europe is a state of mind more than anything else. hell, did the ancient greeks consider, say, judea and phoenicia to be asian? i'm not sure the word originally applied to anything other than asia minor. though, one would assume there is an asia major. or, that europe applied to anything other than the western shore of the aegean sea

You know, I'm arab, I never put asian on any forms, in today's society, asian means east-asian, me? I'm "other".
 
Originally posted by: matstars
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: matstars
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
To each his own...I'm one of those that don't like the word, but I don't go spouting off about it.


me too. I would not like it if someone calls me Oriental.

But back in the days in the U.S., oriental was used in a derogatory way...ie separation of races like "oriental schools."

For more:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=545754
So you don't like being called Oriental because you're not supposed to like being called Oriental. Interesting.

WHERE did you get that conclusion??????????

edit.
I don't like being called Oriental because TO ME I AM NOT ORIENTAL. I AM on the broader sense -- ASIAN AMERICAN, but more precisely VIETNAMSE. I just don't like that term (oriental) being referred to me. Now, if other people are fine with being called Oriental (ie you), then sure, I am not going to go off and be all elitist on you and say you shouldn't like that word blah blah blah because it is derogatory. It is a preference and I prefer not to be called that. I wouldn't like it if someone comes up to me and ask, "hey are you oriental?" Furthermore, i hate it when people try to be cool and say stupid stuff to me like, "konichiwa (sp?)" or any other hellos in different asian languages. If you don't know where I am from, ask. Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you.


so then don't call me white... call me european american


I never did call you white. k thanks bye.

so you never used the term white to call somebody of european descent? if u say yes ur lying kkthxbye
I'd have to agree with this dude.
 
Originally posted by: matstars
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: matstars
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
To each his own...I'm one of those that don't like the word, but I don't go spouting off about it.


me too. I would not like it if someone calls me Oriental.

But back in the days in the U.S., oriental was used in a derogatory way...ie separation of races like "oriental schools."

For more:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=545754
So you don't like being called Oriental because you're not supposed to like being called Oriental. Interesting.

WHERE did you get that conclusion??????????

edit.
I don't like being called Oriental because TO ME I AM NOT ORIENTAL. I AM on the broader sense -- ASIAN AMERICAN, but more precisely VIETNAMSE. I just don't like that term (oriental) being referred to me. Now, if other people are fine with being called Oriental (ie you), then sure, I am not going to go off and be all elitist on you and say you shouldn't like that word blah blah blah because it is derogatory. It is a preference and I prefer not to be called that. I wouldn't like it if someone comes up to me and ask, "hey are you oriental?" Furthermore, i hate it when people try to be cool and say stupid stuff to me like, "konichiwa (sp?)" or any other hellos in different asian languages. If you don't know where I am from, ask. Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you.


so then don't call me white... call me european american


I never did call you white. k thanks bye.

so you never used the term white to call somebody of european descent? if u say yes ur lying kkthxbye


No. You took this out of context.

Some people TAKE offense when they are called Oriental. I am one of the example so I would appreciate it if you don't.

Based on my interaction with other people of european descent, it is OKAY for me to call them WHITE as it is okay for them to call me ASIAN. So I call them white when someone asked me, "who did you hang out with today. Oh I hung out with Chris. Chris the asian guy or the white guy? the white guy."

Now, since I know Chris and I know he is Italian, I now refer to him as the Italian guy and likewise, he now refers to me as the Vietnamese chick.

Back to you. You don't like people calling you white? Then correct them. However, I for once, have never came up to someone and ask, "hey are you white?" or "look at that white guy."
 
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: matstars
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: matstars
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
To each his own...I'm one of those that don't like the word, but I don't go spouting off about it.


me too. I would not like it if someone calls me Oriental.

But back in the days in the U.S., oriental was used in a derogatory way...ie separation of races like "oriental schools."

For more:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=545754
So you don't like being called Oriental because you're not supposed to like being called Oriental. Interesting.

WHERE did you get that conclusion??????????

edit.
I don't like being called Oriental because TO ME I AM NOT ORIENTAL. I AM on the broader sense -- ASIAN AMERICAN, but more precisely VIETNAMSE. I just don't like that term (oriental) being referred to me. Now, if other people are fine with being called Oriental (ie you), then sure, I am not going to go off and be all elitist on you and say you shouldn't like that word blah blah blah because it is derogatory. It is a preference and I prefer not to be called that. I wouldn't like it if someone comes up to me and ask, "hey are you oriental?" Furthermore, i hate it when people try to be cool and say stupid stuff to me like, "konichiwa (sp?)" or any other hellos in different asian languages. If you don't know where I am from, ask. Don't assume. It makes an ass out of you.


so then don't call me white... call me european american


I never did call you white. k thanks bye.

so you never used the term white to call somebody of european descent? if u say yes ur lying kkthxbye


No. You took this out of context.

Some people TAKE offense when they are called Oriental. I am one of the example so I would appreciate it if you don't.

Based on my interaction with other people of european descent, it is OKAY for me to call them WHITE as it is okay for them to call me ASIAN. So I call them white when someone asked me, "who did you hang out with today. Oh I hung out with Chris. Chris the asian guy or the white guy? the white guy."

Now, since I know Chris and I know he is Italian, I now refer to him as the Italian guy and likewise, he now refers to me as the Vietnamese chick.

Back to you. You don't like people calling you white? Then correct them. However, I for once, have never came up to someone and ask, "hey are you white?" or "look at that white guy."

i personally don't care what people call me.

this whole "politically correct" movement is one of the things that causes racism in the first place... if there weren't "Asian Student Unions" and "African Sororities" for two examples there would be far fewer divisions, and therefore fewer divisions for people to create hatred.

edit: fixed a disambiguity
 
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: webcammie
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
To each his own...I'm one of those that don't like the word, but I don't go spouting off about it.


me too. I would not like it if someone calls me Oriental.

But back in the days in the U.S., oriental was used in a derogatory way...ie separation of races like "oriental schools."

For more:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=545754
So you don't like being called Oriental because you're not supposed to like being called Oriental. Interesting.

WHERE did you get that conclusion??????????

edit.
I don't like being called Oriental because TO ME I AM NOT ORIENTAL. I AM on the broader sense -- ASIAN AMERICAN, but more precisely VIETNAMSE. I just don't like that term (oriental) being referred to me.
You admit that you are of Vietnamese origin and are Asian-American, but you deny that you've an Oriental background?
 
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