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An open question to all of you who smoke Weed.

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Desslok

Diamond Member
Why? This is something I have never understood. Here are a couple of the excuses I have heard from friends that do it.

1.) I want to escape my troubles. Hey guess what they will all be there when you get back genius.

2.) Helps me relax. That is like saying I only drink because it helps me relax, well guess what it is a crutch.

3.) It helps me be creative. Wrong again, several studies show that it does the opposite. You just think you are being creative.

I personally have tried it twice and it did nothing for me.

Please no post saying well it used to be legal and well there used to be cocain in Coke. Yes we all know that some of the founding fathers grew it so no news there.

I do however think we should be using hemp for paper and other industrial uses.
 
Originally posted by: IGBT
Don't forget pre-employment/post accident drug tests...there is no escape.
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I had to take two of them . One when I was a temp and then one when I got hired on full time.
 
Originally posted by: Desslok
Why? This is something I have never understood. Here are a couple of the excuses I have heard from friends that do it.

1.) I want to escape my troubles. Hey guess what they will all be there when you get back genius.

2.) Helps me relax. That is like saying I only drink because it helps me relax, well guess what it is a crutch.

3.) It helps me be creative. Wrong again, several studies show that it does the opposite. You just think you are being creative.

I personally have tried it twice and it did nothing for me.

Please no post saying well it used to be legal and well there used to be cocain in Coke. Yes we all know that some of the founding fathers grew it so no news there.

I do however think we should be using hemp for paper and other industrial uses.
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1. Definately not.
2. It IS relaxing, believe me. If you had a stressful day and instead of drinking your beer, you just smoke a joint, why is a joint so much worse? Cuz it's illegal?
3. Some people ARE more creative. It also helps you to be creative if you only _think_ you are creative.

Well I smoke weed cuz if I hang out with friends, as said before, it's just relaxing.

 
hm... picture this:

4 guy sitting around bored on a friday night. Seen every movie, eaten out already. Now 4 guys smoking out... well then everybody's having fun, the night is young, movies are 10X funnier, music gets inside your head, conversations come freely, etc.

You personally have tried it twice and nothing happened...? Well you're probably not using the right stuff/taking it the right way. This isn't really a discussion for here, yahooka.org has a better marijuana forum... but it's just like say you take 3 smirnoff ices.. probably won't do anything- but if you take 5 tequila shots, 3 151 shots, a long island iced tea, few coronas... you get the point.

and sometimes when i'm by myself, all my friends are doing homework, i like to go get some carls' jr... hit the bong - get the munchies, and kick back while listening to some pink floyd. believe me, when you're not high it's just not as fun.

Plus i have so many stories to tell when I was high that wouldn't be there if i wasn't high.. it's just living life~
 
Originally posted by: Desslok
I personally have tried it twice and it did nothing for me.
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That's your problem. You either: Did it wrong somehow, smoked weed that had little potency, or you're just not affected by THC all that much. Therefore, you have no personal experience upon which to base an informed opinion.

Other reasons to do it: It's a good social activity.. it's enjoyable to smoke weed with other people who are also smoking it. Not just for the feeling it gives you, but for the interaction with others. If you drink, why do you drink? The same reasons can apply to smoking weed, as the effects are somewhat similar (yet different enough to be its own experience).

If you are concerned about the unhealthy effects of inhaling byproducts of the combustion process (a valid concern), you can consume THC in some foods (brownies!). Also, in your school's drug prevention program, have you heard the expression "the weed they have nowadays is much more potent than the stuff they had 20 years ago"? If you have, keep in mind that I heard the same thing when I was in high school 20 years ago. If it were true, weed would be so amazingly potent now it would kill you with a single inhalation (which it clearly does not do).

Reasons to NOT smoke weed:

It's illegal.
Employers test for it.
Smoking it is unhealthy (counter this by consuming it in some foods).
???

My opinion: It should be legal, as it's effect is roughly the same degree as alcohol, and it's relatively harmless. Also, you've heard of people assaulting one another in "a drunken rage"? There's no such thing as a marijuana-induced "rage". I've never heard of anyone getting violent under its influence.
 
Also, more on marijuana- it's really not as addictive as tobacco. I really don't see how tobacco is still a legal drug and marijuana isn't. Only reason might be that marijuana has more potent side-effects than tobacco, but tobacco is definitely not as healthy as marijuana.

In fact, a few of my friends have resorted to quitting smoking cigarettes by getting onto marijuana for a few months.. and then letting off the marijuana-which is much easier to do than letting off tobacco

Edit: to prevent this from turning into a legalize marijuana thread... marijuana should be compared more towards alcohol, because the effects are somewhat similar - f**'s you up a bit 🙂

Along those lines, marijuana is better for you than alcohol because it takes less marijuana to get you to a certain state... (i.e. it takes me about 10 shots + few beers + few mixed drinks... maybe 18 shots total to get me messed up, but marijuana.. a good bowl in my trusty water bong will mess me up)

Also you have more control over your body while you're high rather than when you're drunk, and people claim that it helps concentration while driving or doing other tasks. When you're drunk and driving (not that i ever have.. but i can easily imagine) your vision is messing up, and your coordination is bad. While high though, your concentration sharpens up and you find yourself driving perfectly in fear of any police around.
 
1. no it doesn't do anything for your troubles. If u are like really mad/stressed then it will relief you of it for a small duration.
2.hell yea. VERY relaxing. Not like alcohol, which with me just makes me all giddy etc. when stoned u can just like lie down feelin v. relived
3.Well that's debatable. If u stoned and writin music u come up with some intresting things, sometimes...........


it shud be legalized
 
Desslok, with all due respect (I'm not trying to flame or anything) it sounds like you've already heard the answers, but are too narrow minded to accept them. Ok, maybe it doesnt make YOU more creative, or help YOU to relax, but YOU are no a sample of the majority....

Again, no offense or not meant to be flaming.....
 
Originally posted by: NewSc2
Also, more on marijuana- it's really not as addictive as tobacco. I really don't see how tobacco is still a legal drug and marijuana isn't. Only reason might be that marijuana has more potent side-effects than tobacco, but tobacco is definitely not as healthy as marijuana. In fact, a few of my friends have resorted to quitting smoking cigarettes by getting onto marijuana for a few months.. and then letting off the marijuana-which is much easier to do than letting off tobacco
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I will admitt that maybe I didn't inhale enough or the weed wasn't that good or maybe I just have a high tolerance to HTC. Personally if I have had a bad/stressful day I come home and go straight to my weight bench or punching bag. For me that lets me get out all my frustrations. To each there own I guess. I agree both alcohol and tobacco are proabably much worse than weed is, but having said that it is still illegal and it is still smoking which for an avid mountain biker like myself I avoid like the plauge.

Shockwave-Point taken maybe I am narrow minded. I try not to be in most situations but I am only human so I do have my share of faults.
 
Desslok: True, you and I have different ways of relieving stress, but don't go around judging your friends if you've never been high/stoned before. I work out every day, and I usually play tennis and jog around the beach whenever I have the chance to, and I'm definitely not out of shape. Smoking tobacco (for about a week) I could tell its damage; but usually when i smoke marijuana i take maybe 2-3 tokes and that's about it.

Also, the part about creativity is that it has made me more creative- you know the day after you get messed up, how you're zoning out? well, for me, when i zone out my mind just races around thinking about everything - how to solve the few problems in my life bugging me, how to rearrange my schedule, how to approach life differently and how to ask that cute girl out 😉. True, sometimes after I smoke weed I have those days where my IQ is halved and I forget simple things like when my classes are, but I also sometimes have the completely opposite days.
 
For anyone who does smoke, move here to Holland 🙂

Its like Mecca for the herb 🙂
 
Originally posted by: NewSc2
Desslok: True, you and I have different ways of relieving stress, but don't go around judging your friends if you've never been high/stoned before. I work out every day, and I usually play tennis and jog around the beach whenever I have the chance to, and I'm definitely not out of shape. Smoking tobacco (for about a week) I could tell its damage; but usually when i smoke marijuana i take maybe 2-3 tokes and that's about it. Also, the part about creativity is that it has made me more creative- you know the day after you get messed up, how you're zoning out? well, for me, when i zone out my mind just races around thinking about everything - how to solve the few problems in my life bugging me, how to rearrange my schedule, how to approach life differently and how to ask that cute girl out 😉. True, sometimes after I smoke weed I have those days where my IQ is halved and I forget simple things like when my classes are, but I also sometimes have the completely opposite days.
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I wouldn't say that I judge my friends that do it, like I said to each their own.

Personally I do not need to get "messed" up to help me figure out the problems in my life. I enjoy the challenge of making it work. Then again that I just me. Like I said before not trying to pass judgement on you or anyone.
 
Same reason people drink.
I wouldn't say that I judge my friends that do it, like I said to each their own.

Personally I do not need to get "messed" up to help me figure out the problems in my life. I enjoy the challenge of making it work. Then again that I just me. Like I said before not trying to pass judgement on you or anyone.
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Oh come on now. The tone of your posts makes it painfully evident you've already passed judgement on them. You think you're better than them for not doing weed.
 
Originally posted by: IGBT
Don't forget pre-employment/post accident drug tests...there is no escape.
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There are ways around those drug tests.
1) hair sampels can be beat with special shampoo.
2) urine tests can be defeated by taking a speical supplement (forget what it iis, some kind of root) and drinking lots of water. Something in the Root helps mask the bi-products of the checmicals in your blood they check for. The masssive amounts of water actually cleans your system of polutants and also dilutess the sample the employer gets.

I needed netiher to pass my drug test, but it is only the ignorant that get cought.

 
Originally posted by: Desslok
Why? This is something I have never understood. Here are a couple of the excuses I have heard from friends that do it.

1.) I want to escape my troubles. Hey guess what they will all be there when you get back genius.

2.) Helps me relax. That is like saying I only drink because it helps me relax, well guess what it is a crutch.

3.) It helps me be creative. Wrong again, several studies show that it does the opposite. You just think you are being creative.

I personally have tried it twice and it did nothing for me.

Please no post saying well it used to be legal and well there used to be cocain in Coke. Yes we all know that some of the founding fathers grew it so no news there.

I do however think we should be using hemp for paper and other industrial uses.
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(1) and (2) are true. it's for relaxing.
(3) is B.S. While the "it makes you dumb" stance could be applied, it only effects some people in the "dumb" theory. I have known people from my past that are not effected by it and smoke daily. Others just turn into a pile of waste. Some may actually be more creative.

You need to use it more than once to get any effect. it does take more than once. not sure of why. About the 3rd or 4th time, you should "feal it". And remember, you actually do have to inhale it. No pulling the "I'm a chick and want to waste it by pretending to smoke it. Atleast i look cool." To many people do this and the people with you will quickly notice that fact and just get pissed at you for wasting it. Side ntoe: I once hada chick on my floor that smoked cigerettes and when you watched her, she really didn't.

Industrial hemp. Go learn about lumberjacks and unions. It will never happen in the US. Yes it is better, but people will be put out of work. The politicians excuse is it is illegal and "sets a bad precedent". This is all B.S. They know hte same facts that you know. the politicians are just being paid off.

 
Originally posted by: Desslok
I wouldn't say that I judge my friends that do it, like I said to each their own.
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Please, if you are going to pass judgement on people, you don't need to deny it to some people on an internet forum. I'm with skoorb here, it is very evident from your tone that you think that you are better than your friends
 
1) I can smoke as much as I want and not die (unlike alcohol)
2) I don't get a hangover when I smoke
3) It makes everything more entertaining and fun
4) People are more peaceful when they smoke. Have you ever seen 2 stoned people get in a fist fight? Probably not.
5) Cheaper than alcohol and doesn't make you puke at the end of the night.
 
I did it as a teen, and I agree with all your points.

However, while I did volunteer work with AIDS sufferers, this stuff was like a magic potion for people who were wasting. So it ain't all bad 🙂
 
Originally posted by: virusag11
1) I can smoke as much as I want and not die (unlike alcohol)
2) I don't get a hangover when I smoke
3) It makes everything more entertaining and fun
4) People are more peaceful when they smoke. Have you ever seen 2 stoned people get in a fist fight? Probably not.
5) Cheaper than alcohol and doesn't make you puke at the end of the night.
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I can concur with #4. Ive been in quite a few coffee shops over here and EVERYONE in there is friendly and welcoming.
 
Originally posted by: aphexII
Originally posted by: virusag11
1) I can smoke as much as I want and not die (unlike alcohol)
2) I don't get a hangover when I smoke
3) It makes everything more entertaining and fun
4) People are more peaceful when they smoke. Have you ever seen 2 stoned people get in a fist fight? Probably not.
5) Cheaper than alcohol and doesn't make you puke at the end of the night.
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I can concur with #4. Ive been in quite a few coffee shops over here and EVERYONE in there is friendly and welcoming.
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bring some hot sh!t to interlaken!

j/k


😉
 
the reason i do it? for a few years i was completely against marijuana. i would go to parties with friends and drink and have fun. one night i was watching a few buddies in the front yard of a house, puking everything they just spent all night drinking. i started thinking why not just smoke a bowl, grab a bottle of water, sit down, relax and have fun talking with friends, watching all the stupid drunk people, and be able to drive home at the end of the night... that was the reason i did my switch.

after a few months of just casual smoking i noticed how well weed would help me clear my mind. i started to smoke before big tests, the next morning i would wake up refreshed, head totally clear of anything besides what i was focusing on. I started to use pot to help me relax too, after a long day at school, and a long night of work it was one of the best ways to unwind, sit down, and be able to relax, just totally forget all my worries and just relax.

as far as creativity goes, personally, it helps, i can't speak for others though. (and from what i've seen, smoking just makes some people retarded...) music becomes so much more than music.. it's so hard to describe the feeling of being high and listining to some good music if your trying to explain it to someone that has never really experienced it... the beat, all the sounds get inside you... it's amazing. some of the best papers that i wrote during high school, i wrote while i was stoned, it seems so much easier to write the paper then, then when i'm sober... maybe it is just me, but it would make the words flow so much better, my thoughts would be so much clearer and more focused.

thats just me... think what you will.

 
Originally posted by: ndee


2. It IS relaxing, believe me. If you had a stressful day and instead of drinking your beer, you just smoke a joint, why is a joint so much worse? Cuz it's illegal?
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It isn't worst, drinking beer in that situation is just as stupid... 😛

If your day is that stressful, get a new day.

Grasshopper
 
I see nothing but bad things for this thread.

I say don't knock it till you try it.

And if you aren't going to try it, go your own way while the tokers go their own. We won't bother you if you won't bother us.
 
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