An interesting take on the suicide bombing of the Ayatollah Khomeini mausoleum.

techs

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CNN had an Iranian Muslim explain the significance of the why the Ayatollah Khomeini mausoleum was blown up.
He did caution however, that the reporst it blew up were from the government controlled media, so we will have to wait and see if it really did.

But if it was blown up he explained that it was probably feared by the mullahs that Mousavi would go there and claim sanctuary under Islamic law.
Apparently there is a very strong religious component of Islamic law that allows a muslim to seek sanctuary in a religious icon.
The government feared Mousavi would go there and they couldn't touch him without arousing the anger of their own supporters.
And that Mousavi could even run an insurrection from within its walls.

I found this very interesting and just thought I would share it.
 

amdhunter

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I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: amdhunter
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.

Well, that's part of the problem, isn't it?
While a substantial number of Iranians actually have positive feeling towards America, are politicaly moderate and just want to live and let live, there are Americans like you who just feed the radical Muslim hatred of us.
 

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This was posted on HuffPo's coverage of the Iranian Election.

1:19 PM ET -- State TV reportedly shows shrine damage. From a reader: "I'm watching state TV here in Dubai and they just did a report on the bombing at the mausoleum. There was NO DAMAGE. All they showed was a broken window saying the "terrorists" luckily blew themselves up outside the building before doing any damage inside. The "bombing" was clearly a fraud as there was NO DAMAGE done to the mausoleum other than a broken window they showed at the entrance of the building. It clearly looked like there was NO BOMBING, no explosion fragments or blood shown just one shattered window.
 

Woofmeister

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It's the Mullah's own Reichstag fire. They're trying to distract their own citizens and the World from the bloodbath on the streets.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Woofmeister
It's the Mullah's own Reichstag fire. They're trying to distract their own citizens and the World from the bloodbath on the streets.
Could be. It could also be an attempt to convince Mousavi it was destroyed so he wouldn't go there.

 

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there is an iranian concept of bast, which is basically safe harbor. from what i've read, it doesn't need to be a religious building, as the example i'm thinking of was the taking of bast at the UK and French legations in tehran by various political figures in the first half of the 20th century

and, of course, political figures have been assassinated in mosques in iran before.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: techs
CNN had an Iranian Muslim explain the significance of the why the Ayatollah Khomeini mausoleum was blown up.
He did caution however, that the reporst it blew up were from the government controlled media, so we will have to wait and see if it really did.

But if it was blown up he explained that it was probably feared by the mullahs that Mousavi would go there and claim sanctuary under Islamic law.
Apparently there is a very strong religious component of Islamic law that allows a muslim to seek sanctuary in a religious icon.
The government feared Mousavi would go there and they couldn't touch him without arousing the anger of their own supporters.
And that Mousavi could even run an insurrection from within its walls.

I found this very interesting and just thought I would share it.

I knew those Klingons couldn`t be trusted!!
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Originally posted by: amdhunter
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.

Ah, nothing like the breath of another idiot in P&N.

Never mind that most of the Iranians are just like most of the Americans here, in that they just want to live out their lives without any drama. But you somehow figure that they are all evil and deserve to die, judgin from your post. What a great human being you are, not.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: amdhunter
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.

You're an idiot. Stop posting.
 

Hacp

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I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.
Why can't we just blow the whole country up? We have the technology! We can destroy them!!!!
 

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Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.

Ah, nothing like the breath of another idiot in P&N.

Never mind that most of the Iranians are just like most of the Americans here, in that they just want to live out their lives without any drama. But you somehow figure that they are all evil and deserve to die, judgin from your post. What a great human being you are, not.

They make him dirty his undies so they have to die.
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: GarfieldtheCat
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.

Ah, nothing like the breath of another idiot in P&N.

Never mind that most of the Iranians are just like most of the Americans here, in that they just want to live out their lives without any drama. But you somehow figure that they are all evil and deserve to die, judgin from your post. What a great human being you are, not.

They make him dirty his undies so they have to die.

The right wing in all countries needs an external boogey man to rally people to its political positions.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: Hacp
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.
Why can't we just blow the whole country up? We have the technology! We can destroy them!!!!

Maybe we can fund a militia group called ameribizullah and have it do our bidding but deny any connection to it.
 

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.

Well, that's part of the problem, isn't it?
While a substantial number of Iranians actually have positive feeling towards America, are politicaly moderate and just want to live and let live, there are Americans like you who just feed the radical Muslim hatred of us.

Negative feelings toward America in the muslim world have nothing to do with specific Americans nor American policy. They're fueled by fanatical adherence to islam, a religion whose holy text makes even the bible look tame and peaceful, with repeated specific calls to murder all nonmuslims and a generalized message that all muslims are victims and thus are justified in their use of violence against nonmuslims. It's a very handy get-out-of-jail-free card for believers. That's not to mention the natural jealousy and hatred people feel toward the top dog. Believe me, if Israel and crude oil didn't exist, muslims would just find other reasons to hate us.

What's going on in Iran is deplorable but necessary. Attaining freedom from fanatical religious control has never been peaceful.
 

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Originally posted by: CKent
Negative feelings toward America in the muslim world have nothing to do with specific Americans nor American policy.

Complete bullshit. Sorry you aren't smart enough to understand.
 

GarfieldtheCat

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Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.

Well, that's part of the problem, isn't it?
While a substantial number of Iranians actually have positive feeling towards America, are politicaly moderate and just want to live and let live, there are Americans like you who just feed the radical Muslim hatred of us.

Negative feelings toward America in the muslim world have nothing to do with specific Americans nor American policy. They're fueled by fanatical adherence to islam, a religion whose holy text makes even the bible look tame and peaceful, with repeated specific calls to murder all nonmuslims and a generalized message that all muslims are victims and thus are justified in their use of violence against nonmuslims. It's a very handy get-out-of-jail-free card for believers. That's not to mention the natural jealousy and hatred people feel toward the top dog. Believe me, if Israel and crude oil didn't exist, muslims would just find other reasons to hate us.

What's going on in Iran is deplorable but necessary. Attaining freedom from fanatical religious control has never been peaceful.

Wow, hate much?
 

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Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.

Well, that's part of the problem, isn't it?
While a substantial number of Iranians actually have positive feeling towards America, are politicaly moderate and just want to live and let live, there are Americans like you who just feed the radical Muslim hatred of us.

Negative feelings toward America in the muslim world have nothing to do with specific Americans nor American policy. They're fueled by fanatical adherence to islam, a religion whose holy text makes even the bible look tame and peaceful, with repeated specific calls to murder all nonmuslims and a generalized message that all muslims are victims and thus are justified in their use of violence against nonmuslims. It's a very handy get-out-of-jail-free card for believers. That's not to mention the natural jealousy and hatred people feel toward the top dog. Believe me, if Israel and crude oil didn't exist, muslims would just find other reasons to hate us.

What's going on in Iran is deplorable but necessary. Attaining freedom from fanatical religious control has never been peaceful.

Lol wrong, their negative feelings are likely and often for similar reasons as this Canadian's negative feelings. Not against all, but towards the ones like you.

Shit, I couldnt even stand watching half your news networks when I was visiting. Every country has their share of dumbasses and retards, but your country is overflowing with them.
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: techs
CNN had an Iranian Muslim explain the significance of the why the Ayatollah Khomeini mausoleum was blown up.
He did caution however, that the reporst it blew up were from the government controlled media, so we will have to wait and see if it really did.

But if it was blown up he explained that it was probably feared by the mullahs that Mousavi would go there and claim sanctuary under Islamic law.
Apparently there is a very strong religious component of Islamic law that allows a muslim to seek sanctuary in a religious icon.
The government feared Mousavi would go there and they couldn't touch him without arousing the anger of their own supporters.
And that Mousavi could even run an insurrection from within its walls.

I found this very interesting and just thought I would share it.

I'm trying hard to avoid posting here, but I wanted to clean up one thing techs.
There hasn't been anything, as far as I've seen, religiously in the Quran, or in the Sunnah/Hadith (Saying and teachings of the prophet - of course the latter is entirely human written) to support this as part of a basic component of religious law.
The only thing I can recall off the top of my head is that fighting within a mosque is forbidden (this was especially true where the Kaba was viewed as a 'sanctuary' being a house of God).
Now this doesn't mean that in practice, it doesn't exist. What it is most likely is something that grew into the religion as it was put into practice in Iran. Now of course, Iranian religious law may allow for this, and when you refer to 'Islamic Law' you might actually be referring to Iranian Islamic Law, which would be their own implementation of religious laws...which would clear things up ;)
 

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Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: amdhunter
I am glad that country is self-destructing right now...hopefully they'll wipe themselves off the map.

Well, that's part of the problem, isn't it?
While a substantial number of Iranians actually have positive feeling towards America, are politicaly moderate and just want to live and let live, there are Americans like you who just feed the radical Muslim hatred of us.

Negative feelings toward America in the muslim world have nothing to do with specific Americans nor American policy. They're fueled by fanatical adherence to islam, a religion whose holy text makes even the bible look tame and peaceful, with repeated specific calls to murder all nonmuslims and a generalized message that all muslims are victims and thus are justified in their use of violence against nonmuslims. It's a very handy get-out-of-jail-free card for believers. That's not to mention the natural jealousy and hatred people feel toward the top dog. Believe me, if Israel and crude oil didn't exist, muslims would just find other reasons to hate us.

What's going on in Iran is deplorable but necessary. Attaining freedom from fanatical religious control has never been peaceful.

Lol wrong, their negative feelings are likely and often for similar reasons as this Canadian's negative feelings. Not against all, but towards the ones like you.

Shit, I couldnt even stand watching half your news networks when I was visiting. Every country has their share of dumbasses and retards, but your country is overflowing with them.

They're pretty awful, aren't they? I get my news from the BBC.

Back on topic though, thanks for the thoughtful reply. Too often, when I try to make some kid think, they come back with a nonsensical one-liner, usually an insult of some sort. You avoided that trap with aplomb. Oh wait...