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An Intel CPU strategy for moneyed quasi-enthusiasts...

dac7nco

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Why doesn't Intel speed-bin i5/i7 K-series processors that are primo chips and release a 5.0GHz stock quad-core / 4.6GHz stock hex-core (Non-K), for crazy prices? I'd buy a 5GHz quad-core with functional turbo as fast as I could click "pre-order"... I would definitely trust Intel's sorting techniques. We have seen a few 26/2700Ks at 5.2GHz on air, not exotic, with minimal voltage. Those cases are extreme, I'll admit... but with the millions and millions of quad-core dies Intel prints I'm surprised there aren't pricey 1155 Xeons at least.

Daimon
 
Then you would have CPUs consuming 200W+ in an era where everything is going for lower power and mobile. Companies like HP and Dell would want to cash in as well, and increased cooling requirements would jack up work required to keep it cool.

Lots of enthusiasts overclock to avoid spending money on the expensive chips, if these special chips are designed for them, why would they buy the expensive ones when they can do it themselves for negligible prices?
 
Extreme edition chips are not clocked extravagantly high; they simply have the highest bin for their family's TDP and that is supposed to justify costing twice as much as the next lower bin. We're at the point now where a $200 chip can outpace any Extreme Edition without increasing its voltage.

The OP is saying that, perhaps not for $1000, but for $2000, intel should consider offering and supporting an official 170-200-watt TDP. Yes, they could easily slap some transparent, intel-branded fans on a Corsair A70-based heatsink and sell them with the limited number of chips that can do 5 GHz at 1.2v, and then ship them at 1.25v to be safe, and the amount of people dumb enough to buy such a product will be about as scarce as the number of chips that are validated for such a role. They could say it'll only work in "certified" Z77/X79 boards that are $1000/ea, only with certain power supplies, chassis, etc. IBM has sold 200-watt server CPUs (that cost way more than $2000/ea) in dense, 4S systems for years now. It is perfectly within intel's power to offer both Core and Xeon devices at this power level, so why shouldn't they?

They could've had some very wide margins with such a product and its supporting infrastructure, especially if this TDP were introduced during the 45 and 32 nm nodes, which were very generous nodes when you compare them with 90, 65, and 22 nm. The reason they won't sell products like this is because all of the frequency headroom we take for granted is going to come in handy sooner or later, when x86 finally runs out of good tocks and the VLSI gods run out of good ticks... sooner or later intel is going to be forced to go faster for better performance and that means TDPs could increase as they did in the early 2000's until we figure out a better way to build computers.
 
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An EE would do absolutely nothing for Intel. Reliability is their stock in trade. They own the performance crown so they already have your money; adding an overvolted CPU to confuse their product line with more SKUs and adding additional marketing overhead just to squeeze a couple hundred additional dollars out of a couple hundred people doesn't make much sense.
 
Actually they do something in that vein. They sell 4.5GHz Westmeres but apparently it's an OEM only processor. I don't know if any SB chips are planed with similar clocks.
 
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Why doesn't Intel speed-bin i5/i7 K-series processors that are primo chips and release a 5.0GHz stock quad-core / 4.6GHz stock hex-core (Non-K), for crazy prices? I'd buy a 5GHz quad-core with functional turbo as fast as I could click "pre-order"... I would definitely trust Intel's sorting techniques. We have seen a few 26/2700Ks at 5.2GHz on air, not exotic, with minimal voltage. Those cases are extreme, I'll admit... but with the millions and millions of quad-core dies Intel prints I'm surprised there aren't pricey 1155 Xeons at least.

Daimon

Well they released a hexacore EE for a crazy price, what more do you want? They generally hit ~4.6ghz, close enough to 5ghz IMO.
 
I don't think it would pay off, they would need to invest a lot of money into binning and testing, and there is no evidence to suggest these chips will survive 3 years of 24/7 use to meet the warranty. Of course as soon as Intel releases a new generation of chips, these would no longer be top dog and would require a massive price cut to sell, and on the extremely slim chance AMD ever makes a better processor again this whole idea would be gone.
 
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