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An idiot is convicted of entering North Korea illegally

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lsquare

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8606460.stm

Now, I don't know if he was like those two US journalists who were allegedly dragged into North Korea while being in China, but if he did entered illegally as the article said, then he is an idiot. I'm not arguing against change in North Korea. I do despise the regime, but now this is another opportunity for North Korea to politicize this incident. They'll most likely release him in the future and then say they're doing this as a goodwill gesture towards the US, which is just bullshit as we all know this has nothing to do with the six-party talks aimed at getting them to disarm.
 
Yeah, he's an idiot. At least he said it was a mistake. If he hadn't I'd be half tempted to leave him there. Even a few months of hard labor in an NK prison would be hell.
 
It's stupid to try to change North Korea. The entire population has been indoctrinated with ignorance and fear. They will not accept change, especially those in power. Leave North Korea alone. Interfering with it will only cause trouble. Everyone knows this.
 
theflyingpig said:
It's stupid to try to change North Korea. The entire population has been indoctrinated with ignorance and fear. They will not accept change, especially those in power. Leave North Korea alone. Interfering with it will only cause trouble. Everyone knows this.
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You sound like an appeaser....
 
UberNeuman said:
You sound like an appeaser....
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North Korea isn't bent on converting the USA or its allies into communist puppets, nor has it made any serious effort to export its political philosophies to other nations.

North Korea doesn't sponsor terrorist groups capable of hurting America and it allies, though she has given nuclear tech to states like Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, etc..

In other words, NK does not demand respect or appeasement. I don't feel threatened by North Korea. The state can barely function as is...
 
IHateViruses said:
North Korea isn't bent on converting the USA or its allies into communist puppets, nor has it made any serious effort to export its political philosophies to other nations.

North Korea doesn't sponsor terrorist groups capable of hurting America and it allies, though she has given nuclear tech to states like Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, etc..

In other words, NK does not demand respect or appeasement. I don't feel threatened by North Korea. The state can barely function as is...
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Agree with everything that you have said except the last part. NK does demand respect and they have wanted the US to recognize them as a nuclear power which is something that the US will not do. Well, we don't have to worry about them just yet. We will once they figure out how to put a nuclear weapon on top of a missile capable of hitting the US.
 
UberNeuman said:
You sound like an appeaser....
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No, he's being realistic. There's like absolutely no chance of changing the people in NK. The population is entirely indoctrinated by Kim Jong-il's mad regime. As sad as it may be to say, we're better off just containing NK than ratchet tensions up to the brink of war. No one wants to fight a war, not even the North Koreans, but they will if push comes to shove.
 
Kim Jong il may be a totally delusional egomaniac, but he is still playing his detractors like a fiddle while making the best out of a horrible position.

But in a tale of two Koreas, South Korea opted to industrialize, and produce consumer goods. And South Korea has prospered. Sadly, under the two Kim's, North Korea has opted to militarize, spending all their money on the military and hence there economy is dwarfed by South Korea. Add in a lasting two decades long famine and suddenly the North can't feed their own people. And has nothing to sell in the international markets to buy the food.

So crazy like a fox Kim Jong Il, promises not to produce nuclear weapons, the West pays the bribe money in food, at least the North Korean people who we should have nothing against don't totally starve. But then, nuclear panic averted, the West does not ship as much food, once again Kim play the nuke card, and food shipments resume.

Rinse and repeat, but at least the North Korean people do not totally starve. But so rumor has, Kim has cancer and unlikely to live long. And maybe the next North Korean leader will peacefully reunify with South Korea under the same model as West Germany assimilated East Germany.
 
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Because East and West Germany were brought back together with Unicorns shitting rainbows and candy.. Lets 'hope' the next leader will 'change' things there. Good plan!
 
I think lsquare has too much unwarranted pessimism in saying, "There's like absolutely no chance of changing the people in NK. The population is entirely indoctrinated by Kim Jong-il's mad regime."

Lots of regimes have been equally indoctrinated, but a little bit of truth goes a very long way to dissolve lies. Just show the North Koreans the truth about prosperity in the South and the truth will set them free.
 
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Lemon law said:
I think lsquare has too much unwarranted pessimism in saying, "There's like absolutely no chance of changing the people in NK. The population is entirely indoctrinated by Kim Jong-il's mad regime."

Lots of regimes have been equally indoctrinated, but a little bit of truth goes a very long way to dissolve lies. Just show the North Koreans the truth about prosperity in the South and the truth will set them free.
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No, I'm being a realist. As long as Kim Jong-il remains in power, there is nothing that we can do to liberate the North Koreans from their miseries.
 
rudder said:
As long as the U.S. Government keeps bailing out these idiots... they will continue to cross the border into NK.
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Agreed! I say the feds should just let him serve the 8 year sentence. That will teach him a thing or two about sneaking into an enemy state.
 
IHateViruses said:
North Korea isn't bent on converting the USA or its allies into communist puppets, nor has it made any serious effort to export its political philosophies to other nations.

North Korea doesn't sponsor terrorist groups capable of hurting America and it allies, though she has given nuclear tech to states like Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, etc..

In other words, NK does not demand respect or appeasement. I don't feel threatened by North Korea. The state can barely function as is...
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As opposed to the countless other dysfunctional states the US has happily attacked with the support of the right wing?
 
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