An example of media bias?

Gaard

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Is this an example of media bias? I'm not a daily reader of the paper, nor have I heard it stated that they are bias one way or the other. But I was reading Friday's paper today at work (old papers litter the breakroom), and this really jumped out at me...

The convention drew an implicit contrast between what he did in the war and what Bush didn't do. Questions still linger over Bush's National Guard service, including his decision to stop flying fighter jets in 1972 and an alleged gap in service from 1972 to 1973.
Now, I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't Bush's decision. ;) (If I'm wrong about this, kindly show me)

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Todd33

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He choose to skip the medical exam and get grounded. It was also the first year with manditory drug testing... humm.
 

PELarson

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Now, I could be wrong, but I'm fairly certain it wasn't Bush's decision. ;) (If I'm wrong about this, kindly show me)

"Records unearthed by the Globe showed that Bush was removed from flight status in August 1972 for failing to take his annual flight physical. Bush aides said he didn't take the physical because his personal physician was in Houston, and he was in Alabama working on a political campaign. But that explanation didn't hold up because flight physicals must be administered by certified Air Force flight surgeons, and Bush easily could have found one at Maxwell Air Force Base in Montgomery, Ala., where he was living. "

link to MSNBC article the quote is taken from
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: Todd33
He choose to skip the medical exam and get grounded. It was also the first year with manditory drug testing... humm.


Yes, I know about the missed exam and all. But don't you think that if he decided he didn't want to fly anymore, he would've just said so? Or can't you do that?

I know this is off-topic, but why would anyone decide they didn't want to fly anymore? And if they did decide that, why go about it this way (by missing an exam for the purpose of grounding ones self)
 

cKGunslinger

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LOL, you're right, that's a pretty interesting way to avoid an issue. But since the claims are still unsubstatiated, they can't really say "including his decision to snort crack and skip medical examination, resulting in him being grounded," now can they?
 

rextilleon

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Accept the fact that Bush was a draft dodging substance abusing loser. Kerry was a bit of a peacock. Now lets get on with it.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Todd33
He choose to skip the medical exam and get grounded. It was also the first year with manditory drug testing... humm.


Yes, I know about the missed exam and all. But don't you think that if he decided he didn't want to fly anymore, he would've just said so? Or can't you do that?

I know this is off-topic, but why would anyone decide they didn't want to fly anymore? And if they did decide that, why go about it this way (by missing an exam for the purpose of grounding ones self)

Last year of his duty and he had other things in life to do. He still completed all required training that year.
 

jjzelinski

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lol, "...he had other things in his life to do." What character! What fortitude! Still these misguided (and uninformed) vets support his re-election...
 

arsbanned

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Ahhh, I see, other things in his life to do.. Uh huh. Meanwhile, other kids being blown up and or shot. Gotcha.
Come to think of it, similar situation to Cheney, who had "other priorities...."
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Todd33
He choose to skip the medical exam and get grounded. It was also the first year with manditory drug testing... humm.


Yes, I know about the missed exam and all. But don't you think that if he decided he didn't want to fly anymore, he would've just said so? Or can't you do that?

I know this is off-topic, but why would anyone decide they didn't want to fly anymore? And if they did decide that, why go about it this way (by missing an exam for the purpose of grounding ones self)

Last year of his duty and he had other things in life to do. He still completed all required training that year.

Why doesn't he say that charrison? Why the story about his doctor?
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: jjzelinski
lol, "...he had other things in his life to do." What character! What fortitude! Still these misguided (and uninformed) vets support his re-election...

The guard is quite a bit more flexibable than regular military. You only need to complete the required training, which he did. The first several years he went well above what was required.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Ahhh, I see, other things in his life to do.. Uh huh. Meanwhile, other kids being blown up and or shot. Gotcha.
Come to think of it, similar situation to Cheney, who had "other priorities...."

He did put in for vietnam service, however his unit did not go.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Todd33
He choose to skip the medical exam and get grounded. It was also the first year with manditory drug testing... humm.


Yes, I know about the missed exam and all. But don't you think that if he decided he didn't want to fly anymore, he would've just said so? Or can't you do that?

I know this is off-topic, but why would anyone decide they didn't want to fly anymore? And if they did decide that, why go about it this way (by missing an exam for the purpose of grounding ones self)

Last year of his duty and he had other things in life to do. He still completed all required training that year.

Why doesn't he say that charrison? Why the story about his doctor?

He has. His released records show this. He even said during those three months he was helping with a senate campaign.

What story about what doctor?
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: arsbanned
Ahhh, I see, other things in his life to do.. Uh huh. Meanwhile, other kids being blown up and or shot. Gotcha.
Come to think of it, similar situation to Cheney, who had "other priorities...."

He did put in for vietnam service, however his unit did not go.


Why the heck would he want to go to Nam if he had other things to do in life?
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Todd33
He choose to skip the medical exam and get grounded. It was also the first year with manditory drug testing... humm.


Yes, I know about the missed exam and all. But don't you think that if he decided he didn't want to fly anymore, he would've just said so? Or can't you do that?

I know this is off-topic, but why would anyone decide they didn't want to fly anymore? And if they did decide that, why go about it this way (by missing an exam for the purpose of grounding ones self)

Last year of his duty and he had other things in life to do. He still completed all required training that year.

Why doesn't he say that charrison? Why the story about his doctor?

He has. His released records show this. He even said during those three months he was helping with a senate campaign.

What story about what doctor?

Third post down in this thread.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Todd33
He choose to skip the medical exam and get grounded. It was also the first year with manditory drug testing... humm.


Yes, I know about the missed exam and all. But don't you think that if he decided he didn't want to fly anymore, he would've just said so? Or can't you do that?

I know this is off-topic, but why would anyone decide they didn't want to fly anymore? And if they did decide that, why go about it this way (by missing an exam for the purpose of grounding ones self)

Last year of his duty and he had other things in life to do. He still completed all required training that year.

Why doesn't he say that charrison? Why the story about his doctor?

He has. His released records show this. He even said during those three months he was helping with a senate campaign.

What story about what doctor?

Third post down in this thread.

No explaination for that other than he was getting out and working on senate campaign.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Really. I know if I had other things to do, I wouldn't go to Vietnam.:disgust:



He still served his country and got an honorable discharge.
 

jjzelinski

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Yes, whereas 2 million actual Vet's were shot at on a daily basis (inlcuding your man Kerry) Bush had the stones to take shots on a daily basis
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Todd33
He choose to skip the medical exam and get grounded. It was also the first year with manditory drug testing... humm.


Yes, I know about the missed exam and all. But don't you think that if he decided he didn't want to fly anymore, he would've just said so? Or can't you do that?

I know this is off-topic, but why would anyone decide they didn't want to fly anymore? And if they did decide that, why go about it this way (by missing an exam for the purpose of grounding ones self)

Last year of his duty and he had other things in life to do. He still completed all required training that year.

Why doesn't he say that charrison? Why the story about his doctor?

He has. His released records show this. He even said during those three months he was helping with a senate campaign.

What story about what doctor?

Third post down in this thread.

No explaination for that other than he was getting out and working on senate campaign.

You can't think *sniff* of a single reason *sniff* why Bush would *sniff* make up a story *sniff* about his doctor?
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Todd33
He choose to skip the medical exam and get grounded. It was also the first year with manditory drug testing... humm.


Yes, I know about the missed exam and all. But don't you think that if he decided he didn't want to fly anymore, he would've just said so? Or can't you do that?

I know this is off-topic, but why would anyone decide they didn't want to fly anymore? And if they did decide that, why go about it this way (by missing an exam for the purpose of grounding ones self)

Last year of his duty and he had other things in life to do. He still completed all required training that year.

Why doesn't he say that charrison? Why the story about his doctor?

He has. His released records show this. He even said during those three months he was helping with a senate campaign.

What story about what doctor?

Third post down in this thread.

No explaination for that other than he was getting out and working on senate campaign.

You can't think *sniff* of a single reason *sniff* why Bush would *sniff* make up a story *sniff* about his doctor?

I could not tell you that. Granted your sniff story has no teeth. AFter 5 years of the sniff story, there is still no proof.
 

Gaard

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But doesn't this cause you to pause and ponder a bit charrison? Is it not apparent that Bush is hiding something? Especially when his doctor story has, as you say, no teeth? Don't you wonder if he's lying? I'm not asking if you believe he is (I know you'd never believe that), I'm just asking if you ever think that maybe he could be?
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: Gaard
But doesn't this cause you to pause and ponder a bit charrison? Is it not apparent that Bush is hiding something? Especially when his doctor story has, as you say, no teeth? Don't you wonder if he's lying? I'm not asking if you believe he is (I know you'd never believe that), I'm just asking if you ever think that maybe he icould be?

Yes I would say something is odd, but I dont think that implies a coke habit either.

The simple answer is that his duty is up and his flight status really did not matter at that point.

Either way, all of his training has been completed, all of his military records have been released and he got an honoro discharge. There is nothing else to the story.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
But doesn't this cause you to pause and ponder a bit charrison? Is it not apparent that Bush is hiding something? Especially when his doctor story has, as you say, no teeth? Don't you wonder if he's lying? I'm not asking if you believe he is (I know you'd never believe that), I'm just asking if you ever think that maybe he icould be?

Yes I would say something is odd, but I dont think that implies a coke habit either.

The simple answer is that his duty is up and his flight status really did not matter at that point.

Either way, all of his training has been completed, all of his military records have been released and he got an honoro discharge. There is nothing else to the story.

Yes there is. Lots.