Amtrak conductor suspended without pay for telling passengers don't vote for Kerry over PA system

[dmcowen674]

8-11-2004 An Amtrak conductor has been suspended without pay for telling his train passengers that they should vote against Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry

Conductor Leslie Farr, who is also a Republican congressional candidate, was on a Kansas City-to-St. Louis train that was delayed to allow Kerry's campaign train to leave St. Louis and head to a Jefferson City rally.

"These people's lives were seriously affected by this, so I tried to defuse the situation," Farr said.

The company complaint also accuses Farr of not wearing his name tag and refusing to identify himself to passengers.

Farr is the Republican challenger to Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-Mo., and also is a delegate to the Republican National Convention.

Farr, who is not the regular conductor, said he was filling in only because one of the regular conductors was assigned to Kerry's train.
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"These people's lives were seriously affected by this, so I tried to defuse the situation," Farr said.


OH My God, look out for the Weapons Of Mass DaTrain :shocked: :roll:

The desperation of the NeoCons is getting beyond belief.

 

[Rainsford]

How is that defusing the situation?

Does...
"You started everything on fire!"
"I put the fires out."
"You made them WORSE!"
"Worse? Or better."

Come to anyone else's mind...no...I guess it's just me then 😉

 

[viivo]

Inappropriate for a conductor, but hardly representative of the GOP as a whole.

His explanation is lame as can be, though. Either he's retarded and believes it, or he thinks everybody is retarded enough to believe it.

 

[BlueWeasel]

I thought this was worth mentioning:

According to Amtrak records, the train was already running more than an hour-and-a-half behind ? due largely to freight train traffic ? when it left Washington, Mo., headed toward St. Louis. The train, carrying 135 passengers, was delayed an additional 84 minutes just outside the St. Louis suburb of Kirkwood to allow Kerry's special westbound train to pass.

 

[charrison]

according to the libs he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

 

[viivo]

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

Is there a rule that states that you cannot voice a political oppinion over a PA system while at work?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

Is there a rule that states that you cannot voice a political oppinion over a PA system while at work?

Apparently not in the fantasy world you live in :roll:

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: charrison
according to the libs he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

It sounds like he was just joking about the kerry thing, but then again he is a republican running for office so he might have been serious.

 

[viivo]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

Is there a rule that states that you cannot voice a political oppinion over a PA system while at work?

For Amtrak? A company that big that handles that many passengers a day, I would imagine employees have to sign a rather large contract before joining.

Plus, why else would they have suspended him? Unless it's a vast left-wing conspiracy....

[Twilight Zone music]

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
Is there a rule that states that you cannot voice a political oppinion over a PA system while at work?

Oh, come on! Do you REALLY have to ask whether it's allowed for a conductor to broadcast his personal opinion about ANYTHING over the PA.

That said, this "news" is not about the "desperation of the Neocons" but rather about the inappropriate idiocy of one individual.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

No, the libs beleives that you should be able to make such statements at work as well.

 

[Pers]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

No, the libs beleives that you should be able to make such statements at work as well.

speak for yourself, k?

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

Is there a rule that states that you cannot voice a political oppinion over a PA system while at work?

You're joking right? By your logic, he could use the PA system to read today's news to the passengers or start using it to rap.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Pers

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

No, the libs beleives that you should be able to make such statements at work as well.

speak for yourself, k?

Well the libs easily defended whoopi for getting canned after making political comments while being a corperate spokesperson. While she was not at "work" while the comments were made, she still pissed off a large portion of the customer base.

Dixie chicks did however make political comments at work(concert) and they caught much flack for it as well. The libs once again came to their defence.

I could probably come up with a few more such examples.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Pers

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

No, the libs beleives that you should be able to make such statements at work as well.

speak for yourself, k?

Well the libs easily defended whoopi for getting canned after making political comments while being a corperate spokesperson. While she was not at "work" while the comments were made, she still pissed off a large portion of the customer base.

Dixie chicks did however make political comments at work(concert) and they caught much flack for it as well. The libs once again came to their defence.

I could probably come up with a few more such examples.

That's quite the stretch. This guy is merely an Employee of a Corp speaking out on the Job to Customers. I'm sure that Amtrak has strict rules on PA system useage, especially where there are Customers involved.

Whoopi--not on the Job

Dixie Chicks---their own Boss, besides, it wasn't anything to do with Work that caused them to be shut out, it was Others within the Industry.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Pers

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

No, the libs beleives that you should be able to make such statements at work as well.

speak for yourself, k?

Well the libs easily defended whoopi for getting canned after making political comments while being a corperate spokesperson. While she was not at "work" while the comments were made, she still pissed off a large portion of the customer base.

Dixie chicks did however make political comments at work(concert) and they caught much flack for it as well. The libs once again came to their defence.

I could probably come up with a few more such examples.

That's quite the stretch. This guy is merely an Employee of a Corp speaking out on the Job to Customers. I'm sure that Amtrak has strict rules on PA system useage, especially where there are Customers involved.

Whoopi--not on the Job
Just like the train conductor, she made herself a liability. I would say they were more similar that you want to beleive

Dixie Chicks---their own Boss, besides, it wasn't anything to do with Work that caused them to be shut out, it was Others within the Industry.
It does not matter, the libs complained the boycott was unfair. ANd yes they did make political commentary at a concert, so they were at work. And yes they do have bosses.

 

[PELarson]

Since Amtrak is a quasi-govermental corporation like the USPS that it would and should be frowned upon as much as a mail carrier passing out pro-Kerry leaflets(left on the outside the mailbox).

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Pers

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

No, the libs beleives that you should be able to make such statements at work as well.

speak for yourself, k?

Well the libs easily defended whoopi for getting canned after making political comments while being a corperate spokesperson. While she was not at "work" while the comments were made, she still pissed off a large portion of the customer base.

Dixie chicks did however make political comments at work(concert) and they caught much flack for it as well. The libs once again came to their defence.

I could probably come up with a few more such examples.

That's quite the stretch. This guy is merely an Employee of a Corp speaking out on the Job to Customers. I'm sure that Amtrak has strict rules on PA system useage, especially where there are Customers involved.

Whoopi--not on the Job
Just like the train conductor, she made herself a liability. I would say they were more similar that you want to beleive

Dixie Chicks---their own Boss, besides, it wasn't anything to do with Work that caused them to be shut out, it was Others within the Industry.
It does not matter, the libs complained the boycott was unfair. ANd yes they did make political commentary at a concert, so they were at work. And yes they do have bosses.

If you can't see the differences, I'm not going to waste my time.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

Is there a rule that states that you cannot voice a political oppinion over a PA system while at work?

You're joking right? By your logic, he could use the PA system to read today's news to the passengers or start using it to rap.

What logic? I asked a question?

Same to you other people. I asked a simple question, and you all jump on me. You people are paranoid. You think that everyone is against you.


So I ask again, do any of you ACTUALLY know if there are written rules on PA system conduct? No guessing or assuming or acting all superior. Answer the question if you know the answer, not just some assumption.

 

[viivo]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: viivo

Originally posted by: charrison
he should not have a problem with his job as this is free speech.

Not really. On his own time, yes, but when he is operating company property, on company time, he must adhere to their rules.

It would still apply had he said "Vote Bush out in '04."

Is there a rule that states that you cannot voice a political oppinion over a PA system while at work?

You're joking right? By your logic, he could use the PA system to read today's news to the passengers or start using it to rap.

What logic? I asked a question?

Same to you other people. I asked a simple question, and you all jump on me. You people are paranoid. You think that everyone is against you.


So I ask again, do any of you ACTUALLY know if there are written rules on PA system conduct? No guessing or assuming or acting all superior. Answer the question if you know the answer, not just some assumption.

The people speaking out of superiority probably read the article in addition to having experience in how the real world works.

"Amtrak has suspended him without pay, accusing Farr of violating company policies by making 'inappropriate and denigrating announcements' to customers that 'caused embarrassment to the corporation and the loss of good will of our passengers.'

 

[dmcowen674]

I love it. These things showing the true colors of the brainwashed and inept on here 😀 :thumbsup: