Amp's 'Fvck You' to the middleclass.

[MonkeyK]

Then, I'm with you 100%. The increase is pure BS

 

[bigdog1218]

Originally posted by: Amplifier
The middle class are a group of money grubbing thieves.

Here's the short story. In Cape Cod Massachusetts the residents are trying to pass a bill to double the property tax on waterfront properties without raising the taxes on anyone else.

Keep in mind that the value of the water front properties are 1.5 times that of a non-waterfront property but the taxes are currently 4 times greater (going on 8x)

Furthermore most of the waterfront owners live outside of the town and aren't able to vote for the local government. The government/citizens see them as an easy target for unfair taxation.

That is stealing.

This is typical of the middle class. They go to church and preach all these morals, but when they see a way to steal from another person and hide behind the government it's A-Ok.

So to all the middle class people out there living off other peoples money. Or enjoying a cushy overpaid job for the government that other people pay for. I want to give you a big...

FVCK YOU

-Amp

p.s. This would be an increase of $7000 dollars a year.

p.p.s. I consider myself middleclass. I just don't steal.

This is classic, someone b!tching about having a waterfront home on the cape. Cry me a river. You want to enjoy a plush lifestyle, pay for it.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: bigdog1218

Originally posted by: Amplifier
The middle class are a group of money grubbing thieves.

Here's the short story. In Cape Cod Massachusetts the residents are trying to pass a bill to double the property tax on waterfront properties without raising the taxes on anyone else.

Keep in mind that the value of the water front properties are 1.5 times that of a non-waterfront property but the taxes are currently 4 times greater (going on 8x)

Furthermore most of the waterfront owners live outside of the town and aren't able to vote for the local government. The government/citizens see them as an easy target for unfair taxation.

That is stealing.

This is typical of the middle class. They go to church and preach all these morals, but when they see a way to steal from another person and hide behind the government it's A-Ok.

So to all the middle class people out there living off other peoples money. Or enjoying a cushy overpaid job for the government that other people pay for. I want to give you a big...

FVCK YOU

-Amp

p.s. This would be an increase of $7000 dollars a year.

p.p.s. I consider myself middleclass. I just don't steal.

This is classic, someone b!tching about having a waterfront home on the cape. Cry me a river. You want to enjoy a plush lifestyle, pay for it.

I do think he's getting shafted, but this kind of crap happens all the time. It's hard to feel any empathy for him since he says he can afford it. If he couldn't he would have to do as the poor people do, sell it or get a second job.

 

[Amplifier]

What shocks me is that most people use the same Robin Hood line "He has a nice house so who cares what happens to him".

Time for a reality check.

Back in 1913 the middle class ganged up on the upper class similar to what's happening to us. They figured the rich had money to burn and they deserved a cut. They had their senators write up what would end up being the 16th Amendment.

This created what is now known as the income tax (the thing that takes a massive chunk out of your paycheck).

But originally it wasn't supposed to be that way. Only the top 1% of the population were supposed to be taxed. People didn't realize how bad they screwed themselves. For a year or two things went as planned, only the most wealthy lost money.

Then the governments appetite grew. They started taxing the top 10%, then the top 25%. Soon everyone fell under the governments new income tax.

Then the government prescribed to an early version of the trickle down theory. They cut income taxes on businesses hoping to spur economic growth. The rich started getting what most of you call tax breaks.

The rich business owners began paying less and less. The government still needing money raised the relative taxes on the middleclass to compensate for the lost revenue! And the rich lived happily ever after.
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GG.

-Amp

 

[Stunt]

Amplifier, please define middle class...I don't think you can appeal to the middle class if you are not.
Middle class suggests average. The average person does not have a second home on waterfront.

I'm actually quite happy you specifically have to pay more money...enjoy.

 

[Thump553]

Amp: If you feel your property is being overassessed, then you should research your appeal rights and hire a qualified attorney and appraiser, if need be. Properly contesting the appraisal will more likely lead to positive results for you than a misdirected rant against the middleclass.

Property assessment appeals are quite common and sometimes are necessary to protect your rights and interests.

 

[MonkeyK]

Originally posted by: Thump553
Amp: If you feel your property is being overassessed, then you should research your appeal rights and hire a qualified attorney and appraiser, if need be. Properly contesting the appraisal will more likely lead to positive results for you than a misdirected rant against the middleclass.

Property assessment appeals are quite common and sometimes are necessary to protect your rights and interests.

I asked him this already. It is not that the house is improperly assessed, it is the rate of taxation on that assessment.

The community seems to have created a classification for waterfront property and are rasing the rates on that classification only.

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Stunt
Amplifier, please define middle class...I don't think you can appeal to the middle class if you are not.
Middle class suggests average. The average person does not have a second home on waterfront.

I'm actually quite happy you specifically have to pay more money...enjoy.

Where does it say it's his second home?

 

[BarneyFife]

What an attention whore. Nobody cares.

 

[d3n]

In South Carolina there were hundreds of poor afrincan american families taxed out of thier long time property and waterside communities. These people owned the property outright but could hardly afford the tax much less move anywhere else.

This type of taxation and the use of imminent domain is nothing more than theft by local government. I think that once you buy property the tax rate should be locked in. It should only to be adjusted when ownership is transferred.

Imminent domain use should not be for land taken away from private individuals by the Government just so Government can hand it back over to a private developer who has slicked the wheels of local politics. It should be strictly puplic works use. Not new townhomes or a strip mall.

Edit perhaps adjust the tax rate for inflation but nothing more.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Why stop there? Let's tax people on the value of their car. We could call it an "annual registration fee" and we'll charge them 1.5% of the current value of their car on top of a modest processing fee. That way Jose in his 1982 Toyota Corona pays $50/yr for registration but Mr. Self Important Money Bucks driving a $120,000 Mercedes pays $1,850/yr for the same fvcking 2 cent sticker.

Geez...that sounds familiar, I wonder where I've heard that before...:roll:

 

[ciba]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why stop there? Let's tax people on the value of their car. We could call it an "annual registration fee" and we'll charge them 1.5% of the current value of their car on top of a modest processing fee. That way Jose in his 1982 Toyota Corona pays $50/yr for registration but Mr. Self Important Money Bucks driving a $120,000 Mercedes pays $1,850/yr for the same fvcking 2 cent sticker.

Geez...that sounds familiar, I wonder where I've heard that before...:roll:

This is happening in Seattle, except the used car you just paid $8,500 for (market value) is taxed like it was worth $19,000.

I would not be opposed to a tax on vacation homes only. I think it is unreasonable to do this to someone's primary residence.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: ciba

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why stop there? Let's tax people on the value of their car. We could call it an "annual registration fee" and we'll charge them 1.5% of the current value of their car on top of a modest processing fee. That way Jose in his 1982 Toyota Corona pays $50/yr for registration but Mr. Self Important Money Bucks driving a $120,000 Mercedes pays $1,850/yr for the same fvcking 2 cent sticker.

Geez...that sounds familiar, I wonder where I've heard that before...:roll:

This is happening in Seattle, except the used car you just paid $8,500 for (market value) is taxed like it was worth $19,000.

I would not be opposed to a tax on vacation homes only. I think it is unreasonable to do this to someone's primary residence.

That's the way registration fees are figured here in California. The Governator helped take away most of the car tax though fortunately. I think that was one of the main reasons for the recall election that got Joe (aka Grey) Davis kicked out of office in the first place. Well, that and his and the legislature's poor management of the state's finances.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
and enron's poor management of the state's finances.

fixed

 

[Pantoot]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why stop there? Let's tax people on the value of their car. We could call it an "annual registration fee" and we'll charge them 1.5% of the current value of their car on top of a modest processing fee. That way Jose in his 1982 Toyota Corona pays $50/yr for registration but Mr. Self Important Money Bucks driving a $120,000 Mercedes pays $1,850/yr for the same fvcking 2 cent sticker.

Geez...that sounds familiar, I wonder where I've heard that before...:roll:

Except in this case you would tax Mr Money bucks 3% of his car value, cause Mercedes are 'luxury' cars, while Jose pays 1.5% for his regular car.

 

[3chordcharlie]

Originally posted by: ciba

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Why stop there? Let's tax people on the value of their car. We could call it an "annual registration fee" and we'll charge them 1.5% of the current value of their car on top of a modest processing fee. That way Jose in his 1982 Toyota Corona pays $50/yr for registration but Mr. Self Important Money Bucks driving a $120,000 Mercedes pays $1,850/yr for the same fvcking 2 cent sticker.

Geez...that sounds familiar, I wonder where I've heard that before...:roll:

This is happening in Seattle, except the used car you just paid $8,500 for (market value) is taxed like it was worth $19,000.

I would not be opposed to a tax on vacation homes only. I think it is unreasonable to do this to someone's primary residence.

I agree - if additional taxes are needed, a surtax on vacation properties would be more appropriate than what Amplifier describes (though I suspect most of those properties are vacation properties). The increase should apply to all vacation properties (note, it would be a smaller increase in that case!) and it shouldn't apply to primary residences.

Essentially a luxury task.

 

[NeenerNeener]

The spending cuts don't offset all the spending increases. Let's recap.

4000 Americans are murdered by 19 people in an operation that costs $400k.

Our "measured response" is killing over 100,000 people and spending $500 BILLION dollars on "homeland security" and a billion dollar a week foreign war.

The same time, the jackasses are cutting taxes!!!

Spending cuts my a$$!

It's not the middle class that's spending this money. I can't believe people are complaining about taxes! Most of the money we don't pay in taxes is financed. What will happen to the middle class and the dollar when this debt comes due?

Furthermore, AS IF the upper class is paying the same percentage of their income in taxes as the middle class. Under this administration there are capital gains cuts up the wazoo. The burden of this financed revenue loss will end up falling on the middle and impoverished classes in the form of inflation. AS IF the middle class is some sort of burden!

 

[ciba]

Is there a law similar to Godwin's that applies to the Iraq War?