Amish in the City

FoBoT

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who watched this?

i had heard about it on the news and my wife was curious, so she recorded it.

we both watched it last night.

it was actually pretty well done. from the perspective of a religious person, i think the producers are taking a good angle on their approach to the show. it isn't just making fun of the amish or religious people, they are presenting/creating situations where both groups of kids are having to think

anyway, it is "reality" tv , but i think it is decent
 

KLin

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We been spending most our lives
Living in an amish paradise
I?ve churned butter once or twice
Living in an amish paradise
It?s hard work and sacrifice
Living in an amish paradise
We sell quilts at a discount price
Living in an amish paradise
 

Izzo

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I was extremely disappointed by the attitudes of the 6 city kids. I know that they don't represent all of America, but still. It is so ironic/hypocritical the way these people act. Of the 6 city kids, three of them probably face discrimination on a daily basis (the over-the-top homosexual, the I-believe-cows-are-aliens-vegan, and the african american girl). But as soon as they get the chance to feel "superior" to someone else, they jump on the opportunity to discriminate. I couldn't believe that they actually ran away from the Amish kids after they got to the house.

What to their parents teach these kids? It seemed like they knocked on the Amish way of life and their clothing/voices repeatedly. You had to be a heartless robot to see that these Amish kids (especially Mose) are extremely kind-hearted people that are cherishing this opportunity. I was appalled when that white guy (forget his name) made fun of Mose on the ride home from the beach. What a slap in the face. He deserved to be beaten down for that. These city kids appear to have no respect for people that don't fit into their clique. The worst part is that they didn't appear to change after they had to wear the Amish clothes and actually experience all of the stares and ridicules that the Amish have to deal with on an everyday basis.
 

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Didn't watch it, but was listening to the radio this morning, (Z100), and they had a caller who had lived with the Amish for awhile, since she was a troublemaker, so her parents sent her to live with some Amish friends. Similar to what Izzo said tho', when the DJ's were trying to gauge how she felt when she realized how sheltered they were, she replied that she felt "smart." The DJs were hoping she'd reflect on the Amish perspective and how it's not a bad thing to not know who Britney or Beyonce is. AH well. She's a kid, whaddya expect.
 

cKGunslinger

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If the people really are Amish, why did they agree to live in NY and be on TV? Doesn't that go against what they believe or something?
 

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
If the people really are Amish, why did they agree to live in NY and be on TV? Doesn't that go against what they believe or something?

When Amish get around the age of 17 they can choose to go on rumspringa. During this time they are allowed to leave the amish lifestyle and experience a non-Amish lifestyle for as long as they want. During this time they are no longer restricted to Amish clothing and rules (no makeup...etc). At anytime they can go back to the Amish lifestyle and get baptized and stay with the church for the rest of their life, or they can leave the amish church all together.

I thought the show was interesting in a documentry sort of way. The amish kids havent experienced many things the city kids take for granted like the beach or the large variety of food available to them.
 

Bryophyte

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Cracked me up how stupid the "city kids" looked. They were really shallow @ssholes. Ignorant b1tches. And that vegan girl "Eggs are chicken abortions." WTF? Anyway, I missed the last 45 minutes. Kids are at grandma's, so we had to go have some fun in the hot tub. What did I miss?
 

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Originally posted by: Kleaner2
When Amish get around the age of 17 they can choose to go on rumspringa. During this time they are allowed to leave the amish lifestyle and experience a non-Amish lifestyle for as long as they want. During this time they are no longer restricted to Amish clothing and rules (no makeup...etc). At anytime they can go back to the Amish lifestyle and get baptized and stay with the church for the rest of their life, or they can leave the amish church all together.


It would be cool if all religions encouraged this. From an outside perspective, it seems this would at least show you that you are devoting your life to something you believe in, rather than just living life with blinders on. Shows a great confidence by the "leaders" to allow their flock this choice.
 

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Cracked me up how stupid the "city kids" looked. They were really shallow @ssholes. Ignorant b1tches. And that vegan girl "Eggs are chicken abortions." WTF? Anyway, I missed the last 45 minutes. Kids are at grandma's, so we had to go have some fun in the hot tub. What did I miss?

There is an encore show on Friday if you want to watch it. I totally agreee with the shallow assholes comment.

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The 12 kids got instructed in first aid and CPR by two lifeguards or red cross members. The two took the kids to the beach the next day. Mose and Arielle tried to do a buoy swim. Mose got scared and started panicking and going underwater. Arielle grabbed his arm and helped him back to shore. Mose seem rattled after he got back to shore. He got really quiet and started crying. He said he felt like he was going to die and was upset about never being able to see his friends, family, etc. again. On the bus ride home, Kevan or the other white dude (forget which one) did his best Mose impression and was mocking him about the drowning. All of the city kids laughed while the Amish kids stared in disbelief. That was one of the most insensitive displays I've ever witnessed. I forgot to mention, before they left the beach Mose and the lifeguard went back into the water. That was cool because Mose admitted that if he didn't face his fears right away then he probably never would get over them. But Mose ended up having nightmares and stayed up all night reading the Bible in German. We learned that all Amish Bibles are in German.

I'm not sure if the following was in the first or second hour of the show: The homosexual kid (don't know his name, we'll call him X) slapped Kevan with sock because Kevan was getting confrontational with X because X kept trying to put some moves on him. I think Kevan insulted X's toenails or something like that (I'm serious). After X sat back down, Kevan charged him and tackled him. They seemed to be okay after that.

There was a confrontation between the white city kid and Randy. Apparently Randy was not cleaning up his dishes. (Amish men don't have to do housework). They were both overreacting, IMO, but the producers could've cut out some of the parts that caused them to start swearing at each other.

Afterwards, the 6 city kids were sitting outside and the brown haired Amish chick was with them (We'll call her Y). The city kids were badmouthing the Amish kids, saying how everything was their fault, blah blah blah. I couldn't believe they did that in front of Y. Y goes back and tells the other Amish how two-faced and backstabbing the city kids are. Apparently she started crying. Jonas confronts the city kids and says "I hope you're satisfied that you made Y cry." Shortly after, the show ended and conveniently left you wondering if there was going to be an Amish vs. city kids WWIII.
 

dr150

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Originally posted by: Izzo
I was extremely disappointed by the attitudes of the 6 city kids. I know that they don't represent all of America, but still. It is so ironic/hypocritical the way these people act. Of the 6 city kids, three of them probably face discrimination on a daily basis (the over-the-top homosexual, the I-believe-cows-are-aliens-vegan, and the african american girl). But as soon as they get the chance to feel "superior" to someone else, they jump on the opportunity to discriminate. I couldn't believe that they actually ran away from the Amish kids after they got to the house.

What to their parents teach these kids? It seemed like they knocked on the Amish way of life and their clothing/voices repeatedly. You had to be a heartless robot to see that these Amish kids (especially Mose) are extremely kind-hearted people that are cherishing this opportunity. I was appalled when that white guy (forget his name) made fun of Mose on the ride home from the beach. What a slap in the face. He deserved to be beaten down for that. These city kids appear to have no respect for people that don't fit into their clique. The worst part is that they didn't appear to change after they had to wear the Amish clothes and actually experience all of the stares and ridicules that the Amish have to deal with on an everyday basis.

^^

It's funny that such city kids that get picked (for being very different) on ALSO discriminate or pick on kids that they find "lower" on the social totem pole than themselves.....If nerds/geeks "ran" a H.S. in terms of popularity, they'd discriminate and abuse no differently than the jocks. Same sh!t, different group.

Also being too nice (like the Amish kids) gets you into trouble. People will take advantage of it and start to abuse one's non-aggressive nature. One has to snap the whip to get people in line to respect you.

The "sociological" experiments only serve to prove that humans, for the most part, set up social hierarchies no differeently than a group of primates or wolf pack.
 

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Originally posted by: Izzo
I was extremely disappointed by the attitudes of the 6 city kids. I know that they don't represent all of America, but still. It is so ironic/hypocritical the way these people act. Of the 6 city kids, three of them probably face discrimination on a daily basis (the over-the-top homosexual, the I-believe-cows-are-aliens-vegan, and the african american girl). But as soon as they get the chance to feel "superior" to someone else, they jump on the opportunity to discriminate.

that is exactly what my wife thought

it is so easy for people to turn into what they hate
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Cracked me up how stupid the "city kids" looked. They were really shallow @ssholes. Ignorant b1tches. And that vegan girl "Eggs are chicken abortions." WTF? Anyway, I missed the last 45 minutes. Kids are at grandma's, so we had to go have some fun in the hot tub. What did I miss?

you missed Arielle's "cows are from outer space theory"

she apparently believes that cows are aliens or were sent to earth by aliens to poison humans with their evil milk
 

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Cracked me up how stupid the "city kids" looked. They were really shallow @ssholes. Ignorant b1tches. And that vegan girl "Eggs are chicken abortions." WTF? Anyway, I missed the last 45 minutes. Kids are at grandma's, so we had to go have some fun in the hot tub. What did I miss?

you missed Arielle's "cows are from outer space theory"

she apparently believes that cows are aliens or were sent to earth by aliens to poison humans with their evil milk

In other words, reality TV just hit a new low?
 

Gurck

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Thanks for reminding me why I don't watch TV. Sometimes I don't get references people make from it (ie. i'm rick james b*tch) and I have the ridiculous thought that maybe I should watch it or something.... it's good to have some reinforcement.
 

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Originally posted by: Vaerilis
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Cracked me up how stupid the "city kids" looked. They were really shallow @ssholes. Ignorant b1tches. And that vegan girl "Eggs are chicken abortions." WTF? Anyway, I missed the last 45 minutes. Kids are at grandma's, so we had to go have some fun in the hot tub. What did I miss?

you missed Arielle's "cows are from outer space theory"

she apparently believes that cows are aliens or were sent to earth by aliens to poison humans with their evil milk

In other words, reality TV just hit a new low?

She also said milk is cow puss? WTF is she nuts?
 

FoBoT

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Originally posted by: virtueixi
Originally posted by: Vaerilis
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Cracked me up how stupid the "city kids" looked. They were really shallow @ssholes. Ignorant b1tches. And that vegan girl "Eggs are chicken abortions." WTF? Anyway, I missed the last 45 minutes. Kids are at grandma's, so we had to go have some fun in the hot tub. What did I miss?

you missed Arielle's "cows are from outer space theory"

she apparently believes that cows are aliens or were sent to earth by aliens to poison humans with their evil milk

In other words, reality TV just hit a new low?

She also said milk is cow puss? WTF is she nuts?

well , she is a vegan
some people think vegans are nuts, but in keeping with the spirit of the show (don't make fun of people that are different) , i won't say she is nuts

it is likely another example of how a person can be raised by their parents to think something that may or may not have much basis in fact
 

bradruth

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Originally posted by: Kleaner2
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
If the people really are Amish, why did they agree to live in NY and be on TV? Doesn't that go against what they believe or something?

When Amish get around the age of 17 they can choose to go on rumspringa. During this time they are allowed to leave the amish lifestyle and experience a non-Amish lifestyle for as long as they want. During this time they are no longer restricted to Amish clothing and rules (no makeup...etc). At anytime they can go back to the Amish lifestyle and get baptized and stay with the church for the rest of their life, or they can leave the amish church all together.

I thought the show was interesting in a documentry sort of way. The amish kids havent experienced many things the city kids take for granted like the beach or the large variety of food available to them.

I didn't know that. That's probably the most open-minded thing I've ever heard come out of a religious community.

:thumbsup: for the Amish.
 

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Originally posted by: Izzo

There is an encore show on Friday if you want to watch it.

How did you find out about this... I've checked the TV Guide listings for Friday and I do not see it... Says Turbulance 2 is playing on Friday at 8pm EST. And I would never subject my replay into recording a movie like that
 

Izzo

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Originally posted by: eLiTeGoodGuy
Originally posted by: Izzo

There is an encore show on Friday if you want to watch it.

How did you find out about this... I've checked the TV Guide listings for Friday and I do not see it... Says Turbulance 2 is playing on Friday at 8pm EST. And I would never subject my replay into recording a movie like that

I've seen two commercials on UPN saying that it would be on again Friday. One during the show and another one today when I was flipping through the channels.