America's Best- And Worst-Paying Jobs

[BigJelly]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: eits
chiropractors didn't make it on the top 25

They are on the top 10 scam-artists list.

KT

I know you were just joking, chiropractors are great.

Straightened my neck so I no longer suffer from headaches:
I use to have headaches almost daily and migranes (to where I would puke) once or twice a week. I started going to a chiropractor when I had a headache that lasted a solid 11 days. Within 3 months I would get maybe 1 migrane and 10 headaches a month.
6 Months later and my migranes were gone and 5 headaches a month. 3 years after I was fixed, chiropractor straightened my spine and never saw him again, and my last migrane was 3 years ago and I get probably ca. 8 headaches a year

:beer: to the chiropractors

 

[BigJ]

As said before, that bottom 25 is absolutely useless when ranking a lot of those jobs because of tops. I mean honestly, bottom 25 has bartenders listed?

 

[Auric]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Its not just passing gas, its placing nerve blocks, epidurals, spinal blocks, central lines, PA catheters, arterial lines, lumbar drains, etc....

Youre the one responsible for keeping the patient alive, comfortable, and asleep during the perioperative period, if its so easy why dont you do it?

Many an ATOTer dreams of making a living from passing gas.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Bateluer
Hmm, I thought bartenders made decent money. Must only be at certain bars.

I also expected enlisted military and police officers to be on the list.

Many of the jobs on the worst paid list make a significant portion of their income through tips. I doubt they all report all of their tips.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
why aren't professional athletes on the list?

Probably because a large majority of professional athletes play in minor leagues that pay very little, or participate in a sport that doesn't pay as well as the major sports.

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: Descartes
Honestly, I was expecting the mean salary for anesthesiologists to be higher. I also didn't know that gaming dealers were paid so low.

why is the pay for anesthesiologists so high?? your just administering gas.

it's not like you're cutting out a tumor near the spine.

Its not just passing gas, its placing nerve blocks, epidurals, spinal blocks, central lines, PA catheters, arterial lines, lumbar drains, etc....

Youre the one responsible for keeping the patient alive, comfortable, and asleep during the perioperative period, if its so easy why dont you do it?

u mean breathing, and not fall into repirtory arrest due to too much anesthesia?

or if the surgeon screws up, the anesthesiologists has to keep him alive?

 

[BigJelly]

Originally posted by: jaybert
rofl...that gaming dealers thing is so wrong at #4 or 5 on the worst paid list. thats because they dont include tips!! Dealers are decent casinos can easily pull in $75,000-$100,000 or more, mostly from tips.

yeah what a useless list:
Heres what a 2-4 limit texas holdem dealer makes an hour--mind you that this is the lowest limit availible in a casino
He/she deals 30 hands an hour and gets a $1 tip (or more) from the winner.
So about $30/hour. Plus minimum wage = $37/hour
So about $74k a year.
Now factor in that there are much higher limit poker tables and the dealers cycle through all of the tables and are not stuck in low limit tables and the wage gets much much higher.

Then lets look at the other three professions that they ignored tips:
Hostess--everyone knows you slip him/her some money you get a table a lot quicker.
Waitress--10-15% of the bill that she serves lets say during dinner she waits 15 tables (yes its a low ball) at a national chain--average bill is $50 (another lowball). So she pulls in $75-113 per day--assuming he/she works just dinner. So thats another 18k-27k per year (240 working days).
Bartender--see waitress but realize he/she gets a lot more customers.

This list is a joke, because of the stupidity of ignoring tips, and Forbes should be embarassed.

 

[Jeeebus]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
those salaries seem waaaay low on a lot of those.

they are, but they're averages nationwide, so I expect them to be lower.

#16 on highest paid professions here, and the average given is way off for the market I work in. But it's understandable considering it's a nationwide average.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
those salaries seem waaaay low on a lot of those.

they are, but they're averages nationwide, so I expect them to be lower.

#16 on highest paid professions here, and the average given is way off for the market I work in. But it's understandable considering it's a nationwide average.

113? jeeze, i need a raise.

 

[z0mb13]

How hard is it to become an anesthesiologist?? it seems that their daily job is very simple.

again a supply and demand thing?

 

[chuckywang]

I think it's worth mentioning that those medical professions require a lot of expensive education and then a few years of residency where you're making very little. After that, you start out heavily in debt and making pretty good money ($100k I'll bet). While still ending up being better paying than most jobs, that should temper the list somewhat.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Jeeebus

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
those salaries seem waaaay low on a lot of those.

they are, but they're averages nationwide, so I expect them to be lower.

#16 on highest paid professions here, and the average given is way off for the market I work in. But it's understandable considering it's a nationwide average.

113? jeeze, i need a raise.

maybe if u stop neffing u will get that raise

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: senseamp
Yep, thank the AMA for limiting supply of new doctors. Econ 101.

esplain pls

AMA works to keep the number of medical schools small to keep the supply from meeting demand, which results in higher prices.

Doctors are the most hypocritical and evil professionals out there (as a collective group).

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: msparish

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: senseamp
Yep, thank the AMA for limiting supply of new doctors. Econ 101.

esplain pls

The AMA sets an artificial cap on the number of doctors. There are thousands of people (capable of becoming very good physicians) who are rejected from med school every year. Lower supply leads to higher prices.

That said, I had originally planned to become a physician, but decided I didn't want to go to school for that much longer despite the huge pay day.

The intern pay system is pretty effed up too so that only rich legacy people can become doctors. Who the fvck wants to go to college, med school, then intern for $40k/year when you can go college, wall st and make $150k off the bat?

 

[Slew Foot]

Originally posted by: z0mb13
How hard is it to become an anesthesiologist?? it seems that their daily job is very simple.

again a supply and demand thing?

4 years college, 4 years medical school, 1 year internship, 3 years residency. Most people are in their early 30s by the time they're ready for practice.

Seriously, it seems like you're making a lot of money, but by the time you finally start earning any, you realize that all of your college equivalents who went into law or business or engineering are now partners or own their own company and are making more than you anyway.

 

[Playmaker]

Originally posted by: SSSnail
That list is a bit short - where are the Wall Street guys? Professionals agents? Pro athletes? (granted you can't really go to school to be a pro athlete). Musicians? Etc...

Agreed. It's weird they break out all the medical specialties, but then roll the entire financial industry into "Financial Managers."

Anesthesiologists are on top at $184k, but investment bankers, proprietary traders, hedge fund managers, private equity fund managers, even management consultants, etc. would all be significantly higher than that for mean annual wage.

 

[zerocool1]

i wonder if it considers COLA

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: msparish

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: senseamp
Yep, thank the AMA for limiting supply of new doctors. Econ 101.

esplain pls

The AMA sets an artificial cap on the number of doctors. There are thousands of people (capable of becoming very good physicians) who are rejected from med school every year. Lower supply leads to higher prices.

That said, I had originally planned to become a physician, but decided I didn't want to go to school for that much longer despite the huge pay day.

The intern pay system is pretty effed up too so that only rich legacy people can become doctors. Who the fvck wants to go to college, med school, then intern for $40k/year when you can go college, wall st and make $150k off the bat?

Not many people make $150k ever let alone off the bat.

 

[alkemyst]

While doctors paychecks seem pretty nice many are in debt due to loans and malpractice insurance.

Many elect not to use it now and that puts a lot of trust onto the patient in their caregiver to never make a mistake. Here in florida there wouldn't be much you could sue against.

IS, law and engineering are a better way to go esp in light that they are usually not 24hour a day jobs.

With Law and medicine owning your own practice goes a long way. Pharmacy is another very high paying to effort job. I sometimes kick myself for not completing it....to me it's just a glorified pill counter as the stores really don't want their pharmacists giving medical advice.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: senseamp
Yep, thank the AMA for limiting supply of new doctors. Econ 101.

esplain pls

AMA works to keep the number of medical schools small to keep the supply from meeting demand, which results in higher prices.

Doctors are the most hypocritical and evil professionals out there (as a collective group).

and you are obviously a fucking idiot

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: JEDI

Originally posted by: senseamp
Yep, thank the AMA for limiting supply of new doctors. Econ 101.

esplain pls

AMA works to keep the number of medical schools small to keep the supply from meeting demand, which results in higher prices.

Doctors are the most hypocritical and evil professionals out there (as a collective group).

and you are obviously a fucking idiot

QFT...WTF? Still upset you didn't get accepted to med school or something?