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Americans: Would you bail on the US?

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why would I ever leave the best country in the world?
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In this scenario, its entering a depression and on the brink of collapse. Doesn't sound like the best country to me.
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If the US enters a depression and collapses, what do you think will happen to the rest of the world?
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Since we don't do anything for the rest of the world except start wars, prop up Israel, and export bad movies, I think they'll get along just fine without us. You overestimate the United States' importance in the whole scheme of things.
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Yeah don't forget we can sell you and your enemies lots of guns too, -about all this country really makes anymore anyhow.

Well that and meth.
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You're right. All we make are guns and meth. I guess the stuff we make at my plant doesn't count. Please bypass NYC on your way out...
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Well I see two kinds of people in this thread:

1) This could never happen because the US is the best country ever and I refuse to believe reports showing other countries to be better educated, harder working, eliminating the technology gap, and much, much cheaper. I think the US can continue to compete on manufacturing!
2) The US is already worthless. Rather than trying to fix education and increase investment in innovative technologies and research I'm going to jump ship now. I will ignore the fact that the US still has a large lead over it's competitors and would be able to avoid drastic reductions in the standard of living if it can keep this edge.

Yup, I'm leaving.
 
Of course I would jump ship. I'm a selfish bastard. I look out for my best interests and if the US isn't the place that serves them, I won't live in it. That being said, I would invest money into US corporations that are still making money. That serves my best interest and also helps out American jobs.
 
Yup, I'd move, like maybe the south of france, or to one of them liberal pot smoking european countries. If America turns into a religious driven cesspoof of evil, I'm gone
 
While there's nothing magical about the U.S., it definitely has a lot going for it and a lot of things which would make it hard to leave. But if the country had a comparable culture and such I'd go. My choice would probably be Ireland as I don't speak Spanish (although I'd have to get used to saying "grand" and "brilliant" every other word).

Good selection on Chile, Steeplerot.
 
Well I came from Cuba to the states and I enjoy it.If this country got as bad as Cuba I certainly would think about leaving.Until then I enjoy my life with no oppression and going to forced rallies.

I don't know where I'd go if I left the USA though I speak spanish(first language) but I dislike Spain since my family has proud Mambi blood in our veins.
 
i am planning on leaving long before anything like that happens. ive been keeping a close eye on how our economy is going, and it is not good. the economy is worse than it was in the 1920s. not to mention the horrible social problems. the usa seems like WWI Russia. its kinda scary.
 
the economy is worse than it was in the 1920s. not to mention the horrible social problems
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Of course it's worse. It was called the "Roaring 20s" for a reason. And I'd say we're doing better on social problems than we were a few decades ago, not to mention 3/4 of the world today. Most of the problems that we have to deal with are relatively acute and superficial rather than deeply entrenched and systematic.
 
Originally posted by: Amplifier
Originally posted by: Vic
The given scenario is almost impossible. In today's global economic environment, if the US were to have another great depression, so would the rest of the world as well.
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Why are hypotheticals so hard 😛.

Here is the scenario, Japan, India, and China become the worlds economic super powers. Their new production abilities far exceed that of the US. If the US stops producing then the other countries will pick up the slack (through their super factories that don't exist yet).

Cliff Notes: In my hypothetical future the US isn't the end all economy that it is now. It's as important as say, Mexico.

Happy? Or do you guys need more details 😉.
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This can't happen for two reasons. Manufactoring doesn't make the world go round. If no one is buy cheap crap stamped "made in china" or then it does matter if china can make 10 tons or 3000 tons of it the works will be still laid off. The more you depend on manufactorying the worse the depression would be.

And second no one is going to pay you above market rate to leave the US when they could pay you half the price if they made you stay in the US.
 
Originally posted by: Amplifier
Originally posted by: gallivanter
Considering it is an impossibility, both because such a US scenario can not happen, and because if soemthing this disastrous did take place in the United States all other advanced nation would suffer similarly, it is not easy to answer.

However, suspending disbelief, no.
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It's pretty simple to answer 🙂.

Your leaving the US would contribute to an exodus of workers that's severly damaging the economy. However you would be in a country were you'd earn alot of money and wouldn't be bothered by a depression.
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No I wouldn't where is this imaginary country Saudi Arabia?
 
Hell no. I love my country, but in the mature, non-righty way that means I'll stick around and try and fix things. America means more to me than just being a place and a set of circumstances.

I look at it this way, there are a lot of idiots here I wouldn't trust to manage or protect a lemonade stand. If I don't help out, I'm leaving it up to them.
 
Originally posted by: Amplifier
Topic Title: Americans: Would you bail on the US?
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The question and Poll is wrong.

The U.S. is what did the bailing on it's citizenry by Corrupt Rich and Religious Bastages and the Politcians that they own.
 
Originally posted by: theman
i am planning on leaving long before anything like that happens. ive been keeping a close eye on how our economy is going, and it is not good. the economy is worse than it was in the 1920s. not to mention the horrible social problems. the usa seems like WWI Russia. its kinda scary.
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Me too, i work in the finance....kinda. The people saying that his is "impossible" dont know how things work. Think Titanic. "This ship can never sink!"

edit. I plan on moving to Addis Abab.
 
Totally illogical assumption.

Some people are willing to die for their country and fight and improve their situation.

Others are apathetical and fail to realize how great this country is.

I have lived in a foreign country before, but I still would rather live in the USA.
 
The last time the GOP controlled the White House, Senate, and House for 12 straight years was 1918-1930.

Nevertheless, and in spite of Bush, I think better times are ahead.....starting in 5-10 years.

EDIT: Oh and no I aint goin nowhere.
 
Originally posted by: beyoku
Originally posted by: theman
i am planning on leaving long before anything like that happens. ive been keeping a close eye on how our economy is going, and it is not good. the economy is worse than it was in the 1920s. not to mention the horrible social problems. the usa seems like WWI Russia. its kinda scary.
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Me too, i work in the finance....kinda. The people saying that his is "impossible" dont know how things work. Think Titanic. "This ship can never sink!"

edit. I plan on moving to Addis Abab.
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No one is saying it can't happen. People are saying that all hands will go down with the ship. A colapse of the US economy would lead to a world wide colapse. If it didn't then the US economy would quickly rebound due to the over supply of cheap labor and high demand for goods in the reset of the world.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
The hypothetical is ridiculous.

The US = Mexico? I don't think so.
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Actually, with all the Republican amnesty plans in the past few decades, its about right.
 
Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: EatSpam
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Why would I ever leave the best country in the world?
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In this scenario, its entering a depression and on the brink of collapse. Doesn't sound like the best country to me.
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If the US enters a depression and collapses, what do you think will happen to the rest of the world?
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Since we don't do anything for the rest of the world except start wars, prop up Israel, and export bad movies, I think they'll get along just fine without us. You overestimate the United States' importance in the whole scheme of things.
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The US does a lot more than just make bad Hollywood movies.
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That's right, we savage our newborn baby boys, import lots of goods made by slave labor countries, and talk about Jesus. Am I missing anything?
 
Originally posted by: aswedc
Well I see two kinds of people in this thread:

1) This could never happen because the US is the best country ever and I refuse to believe reports showing other countries to be better educated, harder working, eliminating the technology gap, and much, much cheaper. I think the US can continue to compete on manufacturing!
2) The US is already worthless. Rather than trying to fix education and increase investment in innovative technologies and research I'm going to jump ship now. I will ignore the fact that the US still has a large lead over it's competitors and would be able to avoid drastic reductions in the standard of living if it can keep this edge.

Yup, I'm leaving.
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I'm with the number 2 camp because I see our government and corporations selling us out overseas for an increased profit margin. Thanks to these actions and our dismal public education system, I see us falling behind within my generation. I don't see these problems getting fixed. The Dems just want to pump more money into the broken system. The Repubs want to privatize it, let their market-Jesus do its magic, and wash their hands of the problem. Both are beholden to the big corporations selling us out.
 
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