Americans Find Being Fat Not Unattractive

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Thin is still in, but apparently fat is nowhere near as out as it used to be.


A survey finds America's attitudes toward overweight people are shifting from rejection toward acceptance. Over a 20-year period, the percentage of Americans who said they find overweight people less attractive steadily dropped from 55 percent to 24 percent, the market research firm NPD Group found.

With about two-thirds of U.S. adults overweight, Americans seem more accepting of heavier body types, researchers say. The NPD survey of 1,900 people representative of the U.S. population also found other more relaxed attitudes about weight and diet.

While body image remains a constant obsession, the national preoccupation with being thin has waned since the late 1980s and early 1990s, said the NPD's Harry Balzer.

Those were the days when fast food chains rushed to install salad bars. In 1989, salads as a main course peaked at 10 percent of all restaurant meals. Today, those salad bars have all but vanished and salads account for just 5 1/2 percent of main dishes.

"It turns out health is a wonderful topic to talk about," Balzer said. "But to live that way is a real effort."

Fewer people said they're trying to "avoid snacking entirely" ? just 26 percent in 2005, down from 45 percent in 1985 ? while 75 percent said they had low-fat, no-fat or reduced fat products in the last two weeks, down from 86 percent in 1999, according to the survey.

At 5-feet-6 and 230 pounds, Lara Frater likes her body just fine and turns up her nose at trendy diets.

"I don't beat myself up if I have a piece of cake," said Frater, a 34-year-old New Yorker and author of "Fat Chicks Rule."

The survey's findings aren't that surprising, as attitudes about weight constantly shift, said John Cawley, associate professor at Cornell University's College of Human Ecology.

While heavy women were idealized at times ? think "Rubenesque," a term born of 17th century painter Peter Paul Rubens' full-figured women ? corseted women with tiny waists were preferred in other eras.

"I don't think we're going to go back to worshipping obese women, but it's interesting to see how attitudes change as more people become overweight," Cawley said.

Others argue that people are merely becoming more politically correct and that bias against fat people is actually growing sharper.

"These studies don't pick up on implicit, unconscious bias," said Kelly Brownell, head of the Rudd Center for Food Policy and Obesity at Yale University.

"It's like if you asked people around the country if they had racial bias. There's a difference between what people say and what actually happens," Brownell said.

Researchers at Cornell also found that negative attitudes about obesity persist.

The NPD study results may simply be a sign of "resignation from overweight people," Brownell said, noting that it's likely a majority of survey respondents are overweight.

The survey, to be published in February in the journal Rationality and Society, also found obese boys and girls were half as likely to date as normal weight kids.

At an obesity doctors meeting in 2003, a University of Liverpool study indicated that just standing next to a large woman can be bad for a guy's image. The study had young women look at one of two pictures: One of a trim young man standing next to a svelte woman, and the other showing the same man next to a heavy woman.

When the man was shown standing by the large woman, he was rated 22 percent more negatively by the study volunteers than when he was next to the thin woman. When seen with the large woman, he was more likely to be described as miserable, depressed, weak and insecure.

Marilyn Wann, board member of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance, said fat people are the target of a witch hunt in a fitness-obsessed nation.

"Everyone thinks it's OK to make fun of fatties," said Wann, who won't use the word "overweight" because she says it's judgmental.

Even if people say they are more accepting of overweight people, many still yearn to be thin. The NPD survey shows the number of people who said "I would like to lose 20 pounds" jumped from 54 percent in 1985 to 61 percent last year.


I guess this isn't suprising. Plenty of people are fat and in our overly PC culture you can't even call a fattie a fattie.
 

judasmachine

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no one wants to be the first to call the kettle black. i'm sorry fat shows what you think of yourself.
 

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Hmmm so as more and more Americans are getting fatter and fatter every day, suddenly they are looking in the mirror and deciding "hey, being fat isn't so unattractive. I mean. . .look at me. I'm a good looking guy / girl."

I think the whole country is in fat denial. Either that or as more and more people discover what it's like to have to struggle with your weight and be unhappy with what you see in the mirror, they feel a little more sympathy toward others who share their plight. Funny how people can be so judgemental of others until they find themselves in the other persons shoes.

I think this line says a lot:
"It turns out health is a wonderful topic to talk about," Balzer said. "But to live that way is a real effort."
In America, the land of plenty, with fast food and junk food and extra large biggie size meals on every corner, it really can be an effort to eat healthily.
 

Starbuck1975

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During the Rennaissance, a woman with a few extra pounds was celebrated in numerous paintings...voluptuous and curvy was preferred to thin.

I for one prefer a nice curvy woman to these anorexic stick figure bimbos with fake breasts and oversized sunglasses.
 

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Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
During the Rennaissance, a woman with a few extra pounds was celebrated in numerous paintings...voluptuous and curvy was preferred to thin.

I for one prefer a nice curvy woman to these anorexic stick figure bimbos with fake breasts and oversized sunglasses.

QFT, nothing like a nice curvy Latina. mmmmm. Can?t stand anorexic skeleton looking Nicole Richie like woman...
 
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Originally posted by: judasmachine
no one wants to be the first to call the kettle black. i'm sorry fat shows what you think of yourself.

I agree. Unfortunately it's increasingly becoming the norm. I think that will just get worse and worse - we Americans are getting more and more sedentary, and our diet sucks for the most part.
 

shira

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Originally posted by: zendari
"Everyone thinks it's OK to make fun of fatties," said Wann, who won't use the word "overweight" because she says it's judgmental.
Ok. How about "gravitationally challenged"?

 

Polish3d

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Fat isn't attractive to me.

Then again, my main hobby is bodybuilding so I'm a little more sensitive than most.


 

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5'6"@230lbs? That's a large lady.

I like a girl with a little meat on her bones - the skeletor images of Lindsay Lohan and Nicole Ritchie don't do it for me. But, 230lbs is almost more than I weigh...
 

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Originally posted by: tec699
I like HUGE dumps on women. The bigger the rear the better.


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Something you can beat with a car antenna right? :laugh:
 

colonel

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I like huge tets in woman, and she has to have a good frame for my taste.
 

nageov3t

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I wonder what the confines of the study were.

I mean, there's a difference between slightly overweight but still hot and sideshow freak fat.
 

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Now I'm not saying that I like my women skeleton thin, but if I could describe my ideal woman in one word, that word would be "slender". Sorry America, I prefer to see a woman's body, rather than her fat rolls.
 

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News finds that americans think they are not as fat they think, but they are fatter than ever.

As a single male, i can confirm that women are fatter than ever and still think they are "thin." The new average weight is fat as hell.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: zendari
Topic Title: Americans Find Being Fat Not Unattractive

BBW :thumbsup:

The concept of the BBW is an oxymoron. Women who describe themselves as BBWs are almost always not beautiful, and they have overly inflated self-esteem.
 

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I find some overweight girls attractvie if they carry the weight really well but there is no way in hell someone can look good when they are 5'6" and 230 lbs. That's just bloody fat.

Have we just succumb to laziness and not trying to be healthy? For most people all it takes is eating decently and excercising a little bit. There are exceptions to that rule but for most people it will keep you in decent shape at least. And you should beat yourself up if you have a piece of cake and are morbidly obese. Depending on the type of cake, that can be most of your daily fat intake. It's the same thing with pizza; you have a few slices of that and you could be eating up to 99 grams of fat and over 1500 calories. Having that every once and a while is fine if you work out regularly but it's just plain retarded to eat if you're 5'6" and weigh 230 lbs (nearly 100 lbs. more than me).

Most of America needs to get off it's lazy fat arses and go to the gym.
 

Zebo

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Not me. I got banned from a forum cause I called the owner "man tits" - also I pinch my wifes fat when I think she needs to go to gym. I find fat same as self hate and unacceptable. It's also highly embarresing to be seen with a cow in public.

Call me shallow if you wish but that's better than fat.