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American Muscle vs Japanese Muscle

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: NFS4

The road-going R390 was just a limited-run model. They made VERY few.

The Skyline is Nissan's top road-going offering.
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The funny thing is that on a Z forum I go on, there are people from Japan on it. They tell me that in Japan, the Skyline isn't this rare car that's lusted after as it is in the USA. Over there it's so common that soccer moms drive them. Most aren't GTR's, either. Here's the kicker- over there the rare, lusted after vehicles are old school American muscle cars and Harley-Davidsons.
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I wouldn't mind having an old school American muscle car over here either. 😉
A nice 69 Camaro SS or something.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: NFS4

The road-going R390 was just a limited-run model. They made VERY few.

The Skyline is Nissan's top road-going offering.
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The funny thing is that on a Z forum I go on, there are people from Japan on it. They tell me that in Japan, the Skyline isn't this rare car that's lusted after as it is in the USA. Over there it's so common that soccer moms drive them. Most aren't GTR's, either. Here's the kicker- over there the rare, lusted after vehicles are old school American muscle cars and Harley-Davidsons.
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earth to 91ttz... thats because they arent sold in the other countries normally. the skyline isnt sold here, and the vette isnt sold there....

i would also LOVE to have a WS6 if i came upon the money for it. that car is sweet when kept well, and has power galore. of course it would HAVE to be black though. but those pictures are awesome looking.

MIKE
 
Originally posted by: Actaeon

And how many of those were widely available? They only created it so it would qualify for the Le Mans GT1 Class, not as a mass produced car like every other one listed here. They probally built only 2 or 3.
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They weren't common at all. It was a supercar. None of the cars on that list are supercars, contrary to what you stated about the Skyline. The cars on that list are all mid-end affordable cars, not in the supercar league with Lamborghini's, Ferraris, Bugattis, and McLarens.
 
Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

earth to 91ttz... thats because they arent sold in the other countries normally. the skyline isnt sold here, and the vette isnt sold there....

MIKE
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Earth to nourdmrolNMT1, that was my ENTIRE POINT- that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.
 
I don't think either set of cars can be called "muscle" imho.

In terms of just power I will go American.

But in terms of overall car ... technology, toys, handling, tuning, etc I would have to say Japanese.
What they have done with the Skyline has never been done in America, its actually sad 🙁
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
I like the looks of the japanese cars much better.
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Ditto.
I've always considered the 93.5+ Supra to have one of the best ass-ends in the business. Almost up there with say a nice 360 Modena. 😉
 
When you consider price the winner is quite clear. I don't like american cars, but japan is not known for raw horsepower on the cheap.
 
Originally posted by: SilverTorch
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
The Vette Z06 would easily school everything else on that list.
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Depends what you are doing
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What are you gonna say, that the vette can't handle worth shit? Actually, it can pull over a G in the skidpad, so I would venture to state in both performance and handling, it would school everything else on the list.
 
Originally posted by: SilverTorch
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
The Vette Z06 would easily school everything else on that list.
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Depends what you are doing
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uh oh, someone get the hatorade!


as far as the vette, as much as top gear crapped all over it it got the exact same time around their track as a 575M. and that wasn't even a Z06 model.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Actaeon

And how many of those were widely available? They only created it so it would qualify for the Le Mans GT1 Class, not as a mass produced car like every other one listed here. They probally built only 2 or 3.
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They weren't common at all. It was a supercar. None of the cars on that list are supercars, contrary to what you stated about the Skyline. The cars on that list are all mid-end affordable cars, not in the supercar league with Lamborghini's, Ferraris, Bugattis, and McLarens.
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Those are exotic cars. I'm sure many others will agree with me, that the NSX, Z06, and Skyline are all supercars. I'm quite sure an NSX/Z06/Skyline will keep up with some of those European manufacturers lower offerings, for a fraction of the price.

Regardless of what you consider a Super Car, the Skyline is Nissan's Top Teir offering, while the 300ZX is not. All the cars listed in the Japanese pictures are all the major Japanese manfacturer's Top Teir offerings.

The pictures clearly shows all production cars, that were mass produced for several years. I do not consider the R390 a true production car, it was only made in 1998, and they probally didn't make more than a handful.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
If I had to choose one from that list, it's easy- the Z06. The Z06 doesn't get much credit because you see them often, but in reality they have world-class handling and power.
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I saw a Z06 the other day, it was being driven slowly by woman who looked like she was in her mid-40s.

Actually.. a good portion of the vettes I see down here are driven by women.

Out of that list though, I probably would choose the Z06 or the RX-7 (I fell in love with that car the first time I saw it-10 years ago).
 
About half of that list was already compared 10 years ago. There was a motor trend article comparing the Supra, the 3000GT, the RX-7, the 300ZX, and the NSX.

The Supra won just about everything, and won the overall comparison. The RX-7 did well in the handling tests but fell short in some others. The 300ZX finished mid pack. The 3000GT and NSX finished last in most. The NSX was the big disappointment since it didn't have exotic performance to back up its exotic looks. Final ranking was Supra, RX-7, 300ZX, NSX, and 3000GT.
 
Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Originally posted by: SilverTorch
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
The Vette Z06 would easily school everything else on that list.
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Depends what you are doing
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What are you gonna say, that the vette can't handle worth shit? Actually, it can pull over a G in the skidpad, so I would venture to state in both performance and handling, it would school everything else on the list.
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I love Vettes, I'm not going to say they can't handle, they can to a sertain degree.

A Z06 which is GM performance option for the C5.
The N1 edition is Nissans performance option for the R34.

Z06 vs N1 would be a pretty close match.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: NFS4

The road-going R390 was just a limited-run model. They made VERY few.

The Skyline is Nissan's top road-going offering.
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The funny thing is that on a Z forum I go on, there are people from Japan on it. They tell me that in Japan, the Skyline isn't this rare car that's lusted after as it is in the USA. Over there it's so common that soccer moms drive them. Most aren't GTR's, either. Here's the kicker- over there the rare, lusted after vehicles are old school American muscle cars and Harley-Davidsons.
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I can attest to that. The skyline is pretty common in japan. Thats not to say that it doesn't haul ass. I was in my friend's and when he accelerated, i felt like i was sinking through the passenger seat.
 
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