American military won't go into a battle without Burgerking and McDonald inside

[Bluga]

I remebered a thread back ago this is what Biritish special force quoted the American military. I didn't think so first but now its looking more like it then ever! Look at the CNN headlines,

"U.S. Marines takes over Kandahar airport early Friday."

"We can wait longer than they can," Franks said. "And we'll maintain pressure on this pocket of al Qaeda until they are ours."

etc..

now this looks like US military is doing all the job but IN FACT, it is Northern Alliance and Eastern Alliance who are doing most of the battling. The US "special forces" are just hiding behind and declaring victories. The Afghanstan alliances should be given some credit.

 

[Bluga]

!

 

[Kilgor]

!?!

 

[gopunk]

your logic leaves something to be desired, namely the absence of a leap.

 

[Lankin]

Without the US intellegence, and US bomber pilots, the Eastern and Northern alliances would be uh not doing so hot.

 

[gopunk]

btw, i never expected the marines to be doing much.

two words: special forces

 

[Bluga]

<< Without the US intellegence >>



Without Russian intelligence over 10 years and without Afghan locals there would be no way.

 

[ElFenix]

the marines might have taken the kandahar airport, just not the whole bloody city. plus, the special forces are right there on the front line with laser designators and rangefinders calling in airstrikes from american airplanes launching off american carriers. oh, lets also just completely ignore the northern alliance not having done a damn thing the 5 years prior to american air forces bombing the hell out of entrenched taliban fighters along the front.

 

[Balt]

The Northern Alliance and the Taliban were in a standoff for quite a while before we intervened. It's no coincidence that suddenly the NA has had all this success.

While I admit that the ground forces of the US haven't had as much of a role as the NA, they wouldn't be where they were today without us. I can't say I regret the lack of a loss of a American lives, personally. I'm glad more of our boys will be coming home when this is over.

 

[Ns1]

it's a team effort m'kay

 

[Tates]

And I remember hearing about Canada's great contribution to this mess.........

It's official, you are good at drivel.

 

[Kilgor]

I notice you?re from Canada, maybe you could tell us what the mighty Canadian armed forces are doing to fight the Taliban.

 

[gopunk]

Without Russian intelligence over 10 years and without Afghan locals there would be no way.

so what are you trying to say? that american help did nothing?

The US "special forces" are just hiding behind and declaring victories.

um, i'm not seeing where you get this from... is this just some opinion you formed out of nowhere? you are aware that the marines are not special forces, right?

this whole thing reeks of flamebait.

 

[jacklutz]

<< Without Russian intelligence over 10 years and without Afghan locals there would be no way.

so what are you trying to say? that american help did nothing?
>>



It couldn't have happened without both. No use debating this.

 

[Lankin]

Oh yeah what a standoff. The Taliban conquered 85% or more of the country in 5 years, yep, what a stand off. The US special forces and CIA paramilitary units have been on the front line since they got there, as have SAS. The Marines there are to hold and fortify the US forward base in Afghanistan, so the special ops can move about quicker. Also helps with resupply

Everyone should be prasing the daisy cutters, they are doing ALOT of the work...

 

[burnedout]

now this looks like US military is doing all the job but IN FACT, it is Northern Alliance and Eastern Alliance who are doing most of the battling. The US "special forces" are just hiding behind and declaring victories. The Afghanstan alliances should be given some credit.

When a nation fights a war, there are a number of objectives. Some of the objectives have to do with force protection and conservation of forces. Indeed, the USA has "employed" the services of the Afghan locals in accomplishing much of the so-called "dirty work". The foot soldier or infantry typically accomplishes such dirty work. They bring the conflict home to a more personal level.

Sure, I'll give the NA and EA credit. After over 12,000 US aerial-delivered bombs, the NA and EA have been able to literally retake their country and oust a suppressive and morally questionable regime. Could the NA and EA have accomplished this without US intervention? No, of course not. Could we have accomplished the same results without them in such short time? Again, the answer is no. A commitment of possibly hundreds of thousands of US ground troops would have been required, as well as an inverse number of body bags.

The fact of the matter is that the US and NA/EA have similar goals. We were able to compliment each other in achieving said goals. Our primary objective is to get the SOBs who attacked us on September 11th. We are close to achieving this.

Another factor when engaging an enemy in such a scenario lies in fighting smartly. As this conflict has developed, the US has used all of the resources at it's disposal. Indeed, the Russians assisted us with valuable intelligence. So what? The intelligence was offered and we accepted it. I, for one, have much respect for the Russians. They obviously had ten years of experience there in Afghanistan. If something is available relating to a stated objective, why not use it?