American history of war (need some help)

[Knarkarplanka]

I´m sort of working on a school project and I could need some help.

Anyone know any websites that hold some information, like descriptions of some famous battles ect, of every war america ever participated in?,
or just a list of every war.

and another question, did the leaders that ruled in america during the wars ever participated in battle?
of course they don´t do now, but a couple of hundred years ago? to put it more understandable, did the presidents fight at the fronline together with the soldiers?

 

[Platypus]

i'd find a non-american site for this project my friend.

 

[K1052]

Link

 

[Knarkarplanka]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
i'd find a non-american site for this project my friend.

haha, that´s some good advice you´ve got there.

btw. good to see some americans do criticize their country, you are kinda´ know for being a bit to patriotic (no offence)

 

[rudder]

Excellent link here.

I think in any modern conflict you would be hard pressed to find a national leader that participated in an actual battle. Hitler almost did, but that was because Berlin was overrun. There is a hierachy in soldiering and it would not be wise to put your strategists and leaders up on the front line.

George Washington fought in the revolutionary war.
Ulysses S. Grant fought in the civil war and the Mexican war.
George Bush was the youngest naval aviator of world war II.

There may be more but those are the ones that fly off the top of my head.

 

[Bulk Beef]

Truman
Kennedy
Jackson
Teddy Roosevelt

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka
and another question, did the leaders that ruled in america during the wars ever participated in battle?
of course they don´t do now, but a couple of hundred years ago? to put it more understandable, did the presidents fight at the fronline together with the soldiers?

You mean they fought while they were president or any time in their lives?

I think George Washington (the first president) & others organized a militia from several states and led them to defeat a rebellion that was caused by a whiskey tax.

 

[Knarkarplanka]

Originally posted by: rudder
Excellent link here.

I think in any modern conflict you would be hard pressed to find a national leader that participated in an actual battle. Hitler almost did, but that was because Berlin was overrun. There is a hierachy in soldiering and it would not be wise to put your strategists and leaders up on the front line.

George Washington fought in the revolutionary war.
Ulysses S. Grant fought in the civil war and the Mexican war.
George Bush was the youngest naval aviator of world war II.

There may be more but those are the ones that fly off the top of my head.

well, as I said, you wouldn´t expect any leader to fight i wars today, but in past wars?

So did George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant really fight, killing enemy soldiers, or were they just there surveing the battles?
George Bush wasn´t president by the time he participated in WWII, so he doesn´t count

 

[Knarkarplanka]

by the time they were president

 

[mugs]

I've seen a website that is exactly what you're looking for, I'll see if I can find it.

In addition to rudder's list, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Teddy Roosevelt all fought in wars before becoming president, I'm sure there were more. There was one sitting president who took command of an artillery battery in Washington, I think in the War of 1812 (which would make it President Madison). I think that's the only case of a president actually taking part in combat.

Edit:
Try this site

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka
by the time they were president

by the time they were president, then there would be a lot of presidents.

JFK, Eisenhower, Bush I, Jackson, Washington, Teddy Roosevelt, etc.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: rudder
Excellent link here.

I think in any modern conflict you would be hard pressed to find a national leader that participated in an actual battle. Hitler almost did, but that was because Berlin was overrun. There is a hierachy in soldiering and it would not be wise to put your strategists and leaders up on the front line.

George Washington fought in the revolutionary war.
Ulysses S. Grant fought in the civil war and the Mexican war.
George Bush was the youngest naval aviator of world war II.

There may be more but those are the ones that fly off the top of my head.

well, as I said, you wouldn´t expect any leader to fight i wars today, but in past wars?

So did George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant really fight, killing enemy soldiers, or were they just there surveing the battles?
George Bush wasn´t president by the time he participated in WWII, so he doesn´t count

Grant bio

JFK 's PT boat got rammed (and destroyed) by a Japanese destroyer during operations in the Pacific.

 

[Knarkarplanka]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: rudder
Excellent link here.

I think in any modern conflict you would be hard pressed to find a national leader that participated in an actual battle. Hitler almost did, but that was because Berlin was overrun. There is a hierachy in soldiering and it would not be wise to put your strategists and leaders up on the front line.

George Washington fought in the revolutionary war.
Ulysses S. Grant fought in the civil war and the Mexican war.
George Bush was the youngest naval aviator of world war II.

There may be more but those are the ones that fly off the top of my head.

well, as I said, you wouldn´t expect any leader to fight i wars today, but in past wars?

So did George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant really fight, killing enemy soldiers, or were they just there surveing the battles?
George Bush wasn´t president by the time he participated in WWII, so he doesn´t count

Grant bio

JFK 's PT boat got rammed (and destroyed) by a Japanese destroyer during operations in the Pacific.

hmm... but did Grant really fight? or did he just lead his army?
what I want to know is if any president actually, for example, rode along with the cavalery attacking the enemy, or not.
JFK wasn´t President by that time was he? I´m not american so I´m not much into different president of yours and way the "served".

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: rudder
Excellent link here.

I think in any modern conflict you would be hard pressed to find a national leader that participated in an actual battle. Hitler almost did, but that was because Berlin was overrun. There is a hierachy in soldiering and it would not be wise to put your strategists and leaders up on the front line.

George Washington fought in the revolutionary war.
Ulysses S. Grant fought in the civil war and the Mexican war.
George Bush was the youngest naval aviator of world war II.

There may be more but those are the ones that fly off the top of my head.

well, as I said, you wouldn´t expect any leader to fight i wars today, but in past wars?

So did George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant really fight, killing enemy soldiers, or were they just there surveing the battles?
George Bush wasn´t president by the time he participated in WWII, so he doesn´t count

Grant bio

JFK 's PT boat got rammed (and destroyed) by a Japanese destroyer during operations in the Pacific.

hmm... but did Grant really fight? or did he just lead his army?
what I want to know is if any president actually, for example, rode along with the cavalery attacking the enemy, or not.
JFK wasn´t President by that time was he? I´m not american so I´m not much into different president of yours and way the "served".

Grant commanded a company in combat for a while, so I think its safe to say he killed people.

I am not sure if any sitting president participated in combat while in office. If it was anyone, it would have been Washington.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: rudder
Excellent link here.

I think in any modern conflict you would be hard pressed to find a national leader that participated in an actual battle. Hitler almost did, but that was because Berlin was overrun. There is a hierachy in soldiering and it would not be wise to put your strategists and leaders up on the front line.

George Washington fought in the revolutionary war.
Ulysses S. Grant fought in the civil war and the Mexican war.
George Bush was the youngest naval aviator of world war II.

There may be more but those are the ones that fly off the top of my head.

well, as I said, you wouldn´t expect any leader to fight i wars today, but in past wars?

So did George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant really fight, killing enemy soldiers, or were they just there surveing the battles?
George Bush wasn´t president by the time he participated in WWII, so he doesn´t count

Grant bio

JFK 's PT boat got rammed (and destroyed) by a Japanese destroyer during operations in the Pacific.

hmm... but did Grant really fight? or did he just lead his army?
what I want to know is if any president actually, for example, rode along with the cavalery attacking the enemy, or not.
JFK wasn´t President by that time was he? I´m not american so I´m not much into different president of yours and way the "served".

I already answered your question. Many served in the military BEFORE becoming president, but I BELIEVE the only one who fought in combat was Madison who briefly commanded an artillery battery around Washington, D.C. Someone else mentioned Washington and the Whisky Rebellion as well. Go do some research and confirm those two leads.

 

[Knarkarplanka]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: rudder
Excellent link here.

I think in any modern conflict you would be hard pressed to find a national leader that participated in an actual battle. Hitler almost did, but that was because Berlin was overrun. There is a hierachy in soldiering and it would not be wise to put your strategists and leaders up on the front line.

George Washington fought in the revolutionary war.
Ulysses S. Grant fought in the civil war and the Mexican war.
George Bush was the youngest naval aviator of world war II.

There may be more but those are the ones that fly off the top of my head.

well, as I said, you wouldn´t expect any leader to fight i wars today, but in past wars?

So did George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant really fight, killing enemy soldiers, or were they just there surveing the battles?
George Bush wasn´t president by the time he participated in WWII, so he doesn´t count

Grant bio

JFK 's PT boat got rammed (and destroyed) by a Japanese destroyer during operations in the Pacific.

hmm... but did Grant really fight? or did he just lead his army?
what I want to know is if any president actually, for example, rode along with the cavalery attacking the enemy, or not.
JFK wasn´t President by that time was he? I´m not american so I´m not much into different president of yours and way the "served".

I already answered your question. Many served in the military BEFORE becoming president, but I BELIEVE the only one who fought in combat was Madison who briefly commanded an artillery battery around Washington, D.C. Someone else mentioned Washington and the Whisky Rebellion as well. Go do some research and confirm those two leads.

ok
the project is about different countries and cultures way of warfare.
I´m trying to do some research in how the wars were lead, different stratigies ect.
The countries I´m looking into is USA, Sweden, France and Russia.
As far as now, I´ve drawn the conclusion that France had the most tactical leaders, not in battle but the way to handle a war. Russia wasn´t much up to date and would often use "tricks" to beat their enemy, a bit cowardly. Sweden had the best moral and the best leaders in war during battle. A well trained and advanced army and very strategic leaders. Although sweden had a bit to much dreams of greatness wich became their fall. I´m now into USA and have yet some info to collect.

btw. as far as I t discovered, Sweden is the only country where the Kings rode to battle actually participating in the fights and got killed. But well, maybe that happened in america to, it´s yet to be found out.

 

[Papagayo]

Have you heard of a Library? Try it sometimes.. It will suprise you.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: rudder
Excellent link here.

I think in any modern conflict you would be hard pressed to find a national leader that participated in an actual battle. Hitler almost did, but that was because Berlin was overrun. There is a hierachy in soldiering and it would not be wise to put your strategists and leaders up on the front line.

George Washington fought in the revolutionary war.
Ulysses S. Grant fought in the civil war and the Mexican war.
George Bush was the youngest naval aviator of world war II.

There may be more but those are the ones that fly off the top of my head.

well, as I said, you wouldn´t expect any leader to fight i wars today, but in past wars?

So did George Washington and Ulysses S. Grant really fight, killing enemy soldiers, or were they just there surveing the battles?
George Bush wasn´t president by the time he participated in WWII, so he doesn´t count

Grant bio

JFK 's PT boat got rammed (and destroyed) by a Japanese destroyer during operations in the Pacific.

hmm... but did Grant really fight? or did he just lead his army?
what I want to know is if any president actually, for example, rode along with the cavalery attacking the enemy, or not.
JFK wasn´t President by that time was he? I´m not american so I´m not much into different president of yours and way the "served".

I already answered your question. Many served in the military BEFORE becoming president, but I BELIEVE the only one who fought in combat was Madison who briefly commanded an artillery battery around Washington, D.C. Someone else mentioned Washington and the Whisky Rebellion as well. Go do some research and confirm those two leads.

ok
the project is about different countries and cultures way of warfare.
I´m trying to do some research in how the wars were lead, different stratigies ect.
The countries I´m looking into is USA, Sweden, France and Russia.
As far as now, I´ve drawn the conclusion that France had the most tactical leaders, not in battle but the way to handle a war. Russia wasn´t much up to date and would often use "tricks" to beat their enemy, a bit cowardly. Sweden had the best moral and the best leaders in war during battle. A well trained and advanced army and very strategic leaders. Although sweden had a bit to much dreams of greatness wich became their fall. I´m now into USA and have yet some info to collect.

btw. as far as I t discovered, Sweden is the only country where the Kings rode to battle actually participating in the fights and got killed. But well, maybe that happened in america to, it´s yet to be found out.

It might be interesting to add Finland to your list. The Winter War (starting in 1939) between Finland and the Soviet Union is rather interesting.

 

[Knarkarplanka]

well, maybe, but I´m sort of looking back on past wars when there were some honour in the battles instead of pure gerillafighting

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka
btw. as far as I t discovered, Sweden is the only country where the Kings rode to battle actually participating in the fights and got killed. But well, maybe that happened in america to, it´s yet to be found out.

You'll find that in a lot of primitive cultures as well.

 

[Knarkarplanka]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka
btw. as far as I t discovered, Sweden is the only country where the Kings rode to battle actually participating in the fights and got killed. But well, maybe that happened in america to, it´s yet to be found out.

You'll find that in a lot of primitive cultures as well.

well, yes, but do you mean sweden was a primitive culture about 350 years ago?
in primitive cultures, the leaders didn´t lead a highly trained army of 40 000 men on the battlefield riding in front of them with his sabre raised above his head.

I felt some bad vibes from your post...

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Knarkarplanka
btw. as far as I t discovered, Sweden is the only country where the Kings rode to battle actually participating in the fights and got killed. But well, maybe that happened in america to, it´s yet to be found out.

You'll find that in a lot of primitive cultures as well.

well, yes, but do you mean sweden was a primitive culture about 350 years ago?
in primitive cultures, the leaders didn´t lead a highly trained army of 40 000 men on the battlefield riding in front of them with his sabre raised above his head.

I felt some bad vibes from your post...

No no, that's why I said "as well." I wasn't implying that Sweden is/was a primitive culture.

 

[Knarkarplanka]

ok, sorry ´bout that, thought you did som kind of comparison with Sweden and a primitive culture.

 

[CanOWorms]

i think it's pretty primitive to have a king or queen

 

[Knarkarplanka]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
i think it's pretty primitive to have a king or queen

first of all, nowadays, the king doesn´t have any power to rule over here.
and if you thnk thats primitive, I think it´s even more primitive to give so much power to a single person(your president), all they do is using it wrong. instead of war, you could spend it on making your own country stronger, then one day, you may live as comfortable as we do over here.
Free healthcare, almost no poor people, low crimerate, a excellent schoolsystem ect.

Good luck!