American are defauded

[Zebo]

I've posted commentary before how Americans have and continue to be sold a bill or goods on this Iraq war: Heres another.

http://www.canoe.ca/Columnists/margolis_sep28.html

No wonder America has so many enemies
By ERIC MARGOLIS -- Contributing Foreign Editor


President Bill Clinton was impeached by a Republican-controlled Congress for lying about sex. President George W. Bush and aides lied the United States into a stupid, unnecessary colonial war that has so far killed more than 305 Americans and seriously wounded more than 1,400. It has also cost many thousands of Iraqi dead, and $1 billion US weekly.

Lying about sex is an impeachable offence; lying the nation into war apparently is not.

I was no Clinton fan, but give me his iffy morals any day over Bush's Mussolini-like strutting. Sen. Edward Kennedy is absolutely correct when he calls Bush's Iraq war a "fraud" concocted to win the next elections.

A fraud and an epic blunder.

Last week, Bush received a glacial and scornful reception at the United Nations that symbolized the world's contempt and disgust for his administration. Not since Nikita Khrushchev pounded his shoe on the speaker's rostrum has a major leader so embarrassed himself and his nation before the world body.

In his UN speech, Bush again claimed Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and "ties" to terrorism. Days later, U.S. intelligence teams that scoured Iraq for four months reported no traces of weapons or terrorism links - the pretext used by Bush and his neo-conservative handlers for unprovoked war against Saddam Hussein.

The White House was left choking on its own grotesque lies.

Incredibly, VP Dick Cheney, a prime architect of the Iraq war, actually claimed recently that Iraq still had mobile germ labs, though U.S. and British inspectors debunked this claim last June. The "special" intelligence network created by neo-conservatives is still apparently feeding disinformation to America's leadership.

This latest humiliation came only days after Bush finally admitted Iraq was not, as most Americans were misled into believing, behind the 9/11 attacks.

No wonder world leaders gave Bush the cold shoulder, and even usually timid UN Secretary General Kofi Annan warned against "dangerous acts of unilateralism" - a pointed reference to the bellicose Bush administration.

Unfortunately, many Americans still do not understand how gravely the Bush White House has damaged and sullied their nation's once noble reputation.

Dangerous aggressor

Recent polls show that even among traditional friends abroad, America is no longer regarded as a champion of freedom, democracy and human rights, but increasingly as a dangerous aggressor bent on imperial domination and exploitation.

America's most precious and proudest asset, its moral reputation, has been gravely damaged by the Bush White House. The only positive note: rising anti-Americanism is largely associated in the eyes of non-Americans with the persona of George Bush, a man who projects almost all the negative stereotypes foreigners hold of Americans.

Bush's blinkered core supporters in middle America simply don't understand or don't care what the rest of the world thinks of their nation, which, since 9/11, has wrapped itself in a cocoon of xenophobia and self-righteous rage.

The White House's mouthpiece media, led by Fox News, have simply blanked out world opinion and endlessly chorused administration war propaganda.

A fascinating March study of network TV news by New York's Fairness and Accuracy in Media shows how Americans were misled into war by outrageously biased programming on Iraq.

The analysis found: a) 76% of all commentators about Iraq on TV were present or former government officials; b) only 6% of commentators expressed skepticism regarding the need for war - when 61% of the public supported more time for diplomacy and inspections; c) on the four TV networks, less than 1% of sources were identified with anti-war groups.

And more than two-thirds of commentators were from the U.S., 75% either present or former government or military officials. The small number of foreign commentators mostly came from nations like Britain and Israel which were backing Bush's war policy.

In short, the major networks, under White House prompting, beat the war drums and blatantly excluded commentators with contrary views, giving Americans a badly warped view of world events.

No wonder so few Americans understand what is going on abroad, how the outside world really sees them, or why America has so many enemies overseas. Small wonder many Americans are turning for balanced news to the CBC, BBC and the Internet.

Citizens of the old Soviet Union suffered the same information isolation. Like Americans since 9/11, they were force-fed agitprop and patriotic pap disguised as news, and deprived of all knowledge of the real world around them.

Back to reality. Bush's UN speech was another attempt to mislead Americans into believing the horrid mess in Iraq - entirely the creation of Bush and the neo-cons - is somehow the fault of the UN.

French President Jacques Chirac proposed the U.S. hand Iraq over to UN control. But Bush, still lusting for Iraqi oil and fearful his family foe, Saddam Hussein, would return to thumb his nose at him, foolishly scorned this wise proposal.

Bush is praying his hit teams will assassinate Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein before next year's elections. But even that may not save him from the growing anger of defrauded Americans who are slowly realizing that his Iraq war was a political version of the giant Enron swindle.

 

[her209]

Clinton had sex while in office. WHILE IN OFFICE!!!

 

[DealMonkey]

He stuck a cigar in that fat girl's ****! IN HER ****!!!

EDIT: Edited for puritan sensibilities.

 

[Zebo]

:Q Your vulgarity will get my thread locked.... Look at those stats of who the news choose play vs. reality?

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic.

Nobody knows if Bush lied or not...assuming that he did makes you a mindless partisan drone and definitly makes you an uncredible source. That's never stopped you though.

If he has proof Bush lied, please ask him to post that proof along with some sources.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: her209
Clinton had sex while in office. WHILE IN OFFICE!!!

I'm sure Hillary wouldn't want to wait eight years for Bill to leave office to have sex.. just normal stuff, that..

 

[dahunan]

IF he lied then tell us which is worse?


A blowjob or 6,000 - 10,000 dead Iraqi's (many civilians)


Did you know that Republicans spent $30,000,000 of your money on WhiteWater alone -- BUT they only want to spend 3 million to find out how al-qaeda got away with 9/11?

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic.

Fvck president dipshit Bush. He can go to hell, for all I care. Thank God for the founding fathers' 4 year presidential term. He's put the US on VERY, VERY DANGEROUS BAD terms with the rest of the world. Unilateralism is NOT the way to build a safe world community.

The only reason this shows up in a Canadian newspaper is because US news editors are too afraid to print it. (What happened to the only US senator to speak out against the war? Could that happen to anyone? Not that it would, but I don't doubt that the bush regime could get rid of anyone they wanted to.)

 

[tallest1]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic.

Nobody knows if Bush lied or not[/i]...assuming that he did makes you a mindless partisan drone and definitly makes you an uncredible source. That's never stopped you though.

If he has proof Bush lied, please ask him to post that proof along with some sources.

You're kidding right?

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic.

Nobody knows if Bush lied or not...assuming that he did makes you a mindless partisan drone and definitly makes you an uncredible source. That's never stopped you though.

If he has proof Bush lied, please ask him to post that proof along with some sources.

Gaard - Can I use my plate of ice cream example here?

 

[GrGr]

It would also be interesting to hear a Bushie's comments on the facts about the US TV media and it's role as a propaganda machine for the administration. Goebbels would have wept for joy had he had something similar to work with.

The fact that the TV media actively choses to suppress dissenting voices proves that the US TV media no longer is critically analyzing those in power, and providing facts contrary to those presented by the administration so that people can make up their own minds. The TV media is now a part of "the system" (to quote Bush I) and not outside "the system" as the role of the "free" media should be.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic. Nobody knows if Bush lied or not...assuming that he did makes you a mindless partisan drone and definitly makes you an uncredible source. That's never stopped you though. If he has proof Bush lied, please ask him to post that proof along with some sources.

There isn't a problem finding proof he lied, however there is a problem finding proof he told the truth! :|

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic.

Nobody knows if Bush lied or not...assuming that he did makes you a mindless partisan drone and definitly makes you an uncredible source. That's never stopped you though.

If he has proof Bush lied, please ask him to post that proof along with some sources.

He moved his lips. Bush has never told the truth, and only a complete moron would believe a word he's ever spoken.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic.

Nobody knows if Bush lied or not...assuming that he did makes you a mindless partisan drone and definitly makes you an uncredible source. That's never stopped you though.

If he has proof Bush lied, please ask him to post that proof along with some sources.

Hmm, Hero might be right actually. Hypothetically, if Cheney had his hand up Bush's %&# far enough to manipulate his mouth, and had some ventriloquism skills, it is quite possible that technically, Bush in fact did not lie. Gives you something to think about.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic.

Nobody knows if Bush lied or not...assuming that he did makes you a mindless partisan drone and definitly makes you an uncredible source. That's never stopped you though.

If he has proof Bush lied, please ask him to post that proof along with some sources.

Hmm, Hero might be right actually. Hypothetically, if Cheney had his hand up Bush's %&# far enough to manipulate his mouth, and had some ventriloquism skills, it is quite possible that technically, Bush in fact did not lie. Gives you something to think about.

He lied. Even a complete idiot would have been able to link the dots on this one.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic.

Nobody knows if Bush lied or not...assuming that he did makes you a mindless partisan drone and definitly makes you an uncredible source. That's never stopped you though.

If he has proof Bush lied, please ask him to post that proof along with some sources.

Hmm, Hero might be right actually. Hypothetically, if Cheney had his hand up Bush's %&# far enough to manipulate his mouth, and had some ventriloquism skills, it is quite possible that technically, Bush in fact did not lie. Gives you something to think about.

He lied. Even a complete idiot would have been able to link the dots on this one.

Not if Cheney was doing his ventriloquist act though, as was quite clearly spelled out

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Thanks for another EDITORIAL written by a complete moron posted on a liberal Canadian website. Fantastic.

Nobody knows if Bush lied or not...assuming that he did makes you a mindless partisan drone and definitly makes you an uncredible source. That's never stopped you though.

If he has proof Bush lied, please ask him to post that proof along with some sources.

Hmm, Hero might be right actually. Hypothetically, if Cheney had his hand up Bush's %&# far enough to manipulate his mouth, and had some ventriloquism skills, it is quite possible that technically, Bush in fact did not lie. Gives you something to think about.

He lied. Even a complete idiot would have been able to link the dots on this one.

Maybe a complete idiot could show me proof that he lied? As often as you shriek it, it sure would be nice to see your reason for it.

P.S. Thinking it's true in your own deluded mind doesn't make it true.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor


Maybe a complete idiot could show me proof that he lied? As often as you shriek it, it sure would be nice to see your reason for it.

P.S. Thinking it's true in your own deluded mind doesn't make it true.

Many of Shrubby's lies have been posted here many times. If you haven't noticed them by now then you are deluded.

 

[ReiAyanami]

lying under OATH is an impeachable offense

lying to the public is not (apparently politicians do this all the time or something)

furthermore, i don't think bush is smart enough to lie about this, he probably listened to some of the republican war hawks. that doesn't change the fact that the UN should have removed saddam the moment he started violating practically ALL of the UN resolutions.

we gave saddam over 10 freakin years to bury and hide all his WMD. some of it he destroyed, some of it he hid (very well), such as the uranium refining centrifuge UNDER A ROSE BUSH!!

who kicked the UN weapons inspectors out of iraq in 1999? Saddam did. we should have gone after him at that very moment. end of discussion.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami


who kicked the UN weapons inspectors out of iraq in 1999? Saddam did. we should have gone after him at that very moment. end of discussion.

BZZT! I'm sorry, that was an incorrect answer- no prize for you. The year was 1998, and the inspectors left by choice (under pressure by USA)

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

If he lied, then I'm all for impeaching him. But posting links to people who think he lied doesn't mean he lied. You people seem to think that if somebody posts it on the web that it's automatically true.

If it was proven he lied, then he'd be getting impeached as we speak, just like Clinton was when it was PROVEN he lied.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
If he lied, then I'm all for impeaching him. But posting links to people who think he lied doesn't mean he lied. You people seem to think that if somebody posts it on the web that it's automatically true.

If it was proven he lied, then he'd be getting impeached as we speak, just like Clinton was when it was PROVEN he lied.

Geeze Hero, at least get your facts straight. Clinton was ACQUITTED in his impeachment trial. He was never impeached.