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American al-Qaida Member Threatens Attacks on U.S

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To Non-Prof John---who glibly blames the fall of the Shah on Carter and not the previous US policy that made the Shah universally hated in his own Country. Rotten garbage seldom can be propped up for very long and the Shah was due and overdue to get the old heave ho. Maybe you can explain why our support of Batista got us a Castro. And why so much of our foreign policy is now backfiring big time.---but your answer seems to be that we were not repressive enough.

Get a hint and a life---repression is never the wise way to to about it. The human species is far too stubborn to allow that to work.
 
Originally posted by: Lemon law
To Non-Prof John---who glibly blames the fall of the Shah on Carter and not the previous US policy that made the Shah universally hated in his own Country. Rotten garbage seldom can be propped up for very long and the Shah was due and overdue to get the old heave ho. Maybe you can explain why our support of Batista got us a Castro. And why so much of our foreign policy is now backfiring big time.---but your answer seems to be that we were not repressive enough.

Get a hint and a life---repression is never the wise way to to about it. The human species is far too stubborn to allow that to work.
but...but.. wait a second! I thought it was all GWB's fault!?? 😕
 
Rather than start a new thread, I'll bump this old one back up with this news story:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200...m/qaeda_usa_video_dc_3

DUBAI (Reuters) - An American al Qaeda militant urged Islamist militants to welcome President George W. Bush with bombs when he visits the Middle East this week and tore up his U.S. passport on camera.


"Welcome him not with flowers and applause but with bombs and traps," Adam Gadahn said in an Arabic aside on a 50-minute video posted on the internet on Sunday, which was mostly recorded in English and aimed at the American public.

Gadahn, also known as Azzam the American, said the jihad against the United States would continue until it released Muslims from its jails. He complained about the treatment of jailed U.S. Islamist militant John Walker Lindh, and others.

In a theatrical move, he took his U.S. passport from his breast pocket and showed its pages on camera before ripping it up in protest at the treatment of Muslim detainees.

"The jihad against you will remain our duty as long as there remains even one Muslim in American captivity," Gadahn said.

"That is why it is incumbent upon you (the American people) to take the steps necessary to force the regime in Washington to free each and every one of them, wherever they are and whatever their supposed crime."

US DEFEATED?

Gadahn devoted most of the tape, entitled "An Invitation to Reflection and Repentance," to a detailed explanation of the shortcomings of U.S. foreign policy and Western Christian civilization and their defeat at the hands of Islam and Muslims.

"The first question Americans might ask is: has American really been defeated? The answer is yes and on all fronts," said Gadahn, who had a long beard, and wore glasses and an Arab-style red and white checkered scarf.

"American and coalition officials have stated repeatedly that they are unable and unwilling to face the mujahideen in Afghanistan and Iraq militarily but are still trying to win the battle for hearts and minds, which they have also lost in spectacular fashion despite the equally spectacular amounts they have spent in pay-offs and propaganda."

Gadahn also listed Pakistan, Chechnya, North Africa and Somalia as areas where the United States was losing its battle against Islamist groups.

The authenticity of the tape could not immediately be verified, but it was posted by As-Sahab, al Qaeda's media arm, and had been advertised on an Islamist site for days.

Gadahn is a California-born convert to Islam and the first American to be charged with treason since the World War Two era. He is believed to be in Pakistan.

Gadahn has made a number of videotaped messages on behalf of al Qaeda. In August he warned the United States and its allies of impending attacks on embassies and diplomats in retaliation for U.S. actions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In an earlier tape in May, he warned of attacks worse than the Sept 11. suicide hijackings against the United States.

The treason charge against Gadahn carries a maximum punishment of death. The FBI has been seeking to question Gadahn since 2004 and the U.S. government has offered up to $1 million cash reward for information leading to his arrest.

Gadahn converted to Islam from a Jewish-Christian family when he was 17 and a few years later moved to Pakistan. He was previously known as Adam Pearlman and grew up on a goat ranch outside Los Angeles.



This guy is certifiable IMO. The special forces should make finding him a priority.
Maybe it stems from his background:
"Gadahn converted to Islam from a Jewish-Christian family when he was 17 and a few years later moved to Pakistan. He was previously known as Adam Pearlman and grew up on a goat ranch outside Los Angeles.

Hmmm, raised as a "Jesus-loving-Jewish" goat-molester...no wonder he turned into a religious fanatic...😉
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Question? when he says ?Islamic lands? does he mean Islamic lands as they are now, or any place Islam has ever ruled, such as Spain?

We know that they think they are the rightful rulers of ANY PLACE an Islamic government has been before.

Oh here come the spin from PJ.

Yeah, it is impossible for us to remove troops from Spain, so let's keep them in Iraq.

:roll:

Edit: wow, old thread. 😀
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Question? when he says ?Islamic lands? does he mean Islamic lands as they are now, or any place Islam has ever ruled, such as Spain?

We know that they think they are the rightful rulers of ANY PLACE an Islamic government has been before.

Oh here come the spin from PJ.

Yeah, it is impossible for us to remove troops from Spain, so let's keep them in Iraq.

:roll:

Edit: wow, old thread. 😀

yeah, rather than start a new thread about this, I bumped the older one with new information.
See...the search feature DOES work...
 
interesting...came across this on a search:

Adam Gadahn's real name is Adam Pearlman. He was born in Orange County, California and is the grandson of a member of the board of directors for the ADL.

In other words, he is a FAKE, posing as "Al Qaeda" to create the enemy Americans are supposed to hate and surrender their money, freedom, and blood out to destroy.

see: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html
 
It seems anything that happens to be against bush or our "national interests" are labeled al qaeda. From what I was shown in the video, he makes no connection between him and such a group. Naybe he did say it in the full video? IDK.
 
Originally posted by: DrMario
interesting...came across this on a search:

Adam Gadahn's real name is Adam Pearlman. He was born in Orange County, California and is the grandson of a member of the board of directors for the ADL.

In other words, he is a FAKE, posing as "Al Qaeda" to create the enemy Americans are supposed to hate and surrender their money, freedom, and blood out to destroy.

see: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html

You made your account on AT to post this? I'm not saying it isn't true, as a matter of fact I think you may be right. But why make an account just for this? 😕
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Question? when he says ?Islamic lands? does he mean Islamic lands as they are now, or any place Islam has ever ruled, such as Spain?

We know that they think they are the rightful rulers of ANY PLACE an Islamic government has been before.

Oh here come the spin from PJ.

Yeah, it is impossible for us to remove troops from Spain, so let's keep them in Iraq.
Are you ignorant of the fact that one of AQ's goal is to set up an Islamic caliphate from the Middle East all the way to Spain?
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Question? when he says ?Islamic lands? does he mean Islamic lands as they are now, or any place Islam has ever ruled, such as Spain?

We know that they think they are the rightful rulers of ANY PLACE an Islamic government has been before.

Oh here come the spin from PJ.

Yeah, it is impossible for us to remove troops from Spain, so let's keep them in Iraq.
Are you ignorant of the fact that one of AQ's goal is to set up an Islamic caliphate from the Middle East all the way to Spain?


Are you ignorant of the fact that they have a long history of failure from the Middle East all the way to the United States?

They can't even do shit in Iraq, the Iraqi people kicked them out. The Pakistani's don't want a theocracy. Egyptians don't want a theocracy, they were kicking out AQ before AQ even existed. The Indians don't want a theocracy. We don't have to spend trillions of dollars trying to protect the world from every single nutjob group that comes along.

I'm sure they'd like to the USA under a theocracy, but you don't see other countries invading us to prevent it from happening.

Let them do it, let's get out of their countries, let's stop spending the money overseas unnecessarily, and spend it here at home.

 
Originally posted by: DrMario
interesting...came across this on a search:

Adam Gadahn's real name is Adam Pearlman. He was born in Orange County, California and is the grandson of a member of the board of directors for the ADL.

In other words, he is a FAKE, posing as "Al Qaeda" to create the enemy Americans are supposed to hate and surrender their money, freedom, and blood out to destroy.

see: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html
LOL!! wow... We can never have too many tinfoil-coated conspiracy nutjobs around here, so welcome to ATP&N!
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
<blockquote>quote:
Originally posted by: Lemon law
I have little faith in the homeland security policy of all offense and no defense.</blockquote>
We're improving the defense every day.

And if you really mean what you said, then if/when we finally withdraw from Iraq, I expect you to support even more money getting allocated to homeland security.

Did you just admit Iraq is counter productive to homeland security?
 
Originally posted by: Craig234
<blockquote>quote:
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Japan was the perfect situation to use nuclear weapons. Fighting terrorist cells is not.</blockquote>

While Japan was a less bad situation than terrorist cells, I'd disagree that it was 'perfect'.

A nation trying to surrender, with only one sticking point that we ended up giving them anyway about the emporer remaining - it was unnecessary slaughter.

Even Eisenhower thought it was unjustified use of the bomb, as I recall.

Japan was trying to surrender??

Consider refreshing yourself on the 10th grade history.

An invasion of Japan would have taken 1million+ US lives, and another couple million Japanese (mostly civilian probably).

Japan was calling out the fighting youth and old to prepare for battle (like Germany) until the bombed dropped.


Get a clue.

Getting rid of Iran and Syria would clear up the majority of finances being sent to Al Qaeda and other Islamic extremist groups.

Where do you think all the terrorist money comes from (aside from the U.S)?

 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: DrMario
interesting...came across this on a search:

Adam Gadahn's real name is Adam Pearlman. He was born in Orange County, California and is the grandson of a member of the board of directors for the ADL.

In other words, he is a FAKE, posing as "Al Qaeda" to create the enemy Americans are supposed to hate and surrender their money, freedom, and blood out to destroy.

see: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html
LOL!! wow... We can never have too many tinfoil-coated conspiracy nutjobs around here, so welcome to ATP&N!

Not really..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn

 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Lemon law
I have little faith in the homeland security policy of all offense and no defense.
We're improving the defense every day.

And if you really mean what you said, then if/when we finally withdraw from Iraq, I expect you to support even more money getting allocated to homeland security.

Did you just admit Iraq is counter productive to homeland security?
who, me? I believe putting sole focus on Iraq has been counter-productive to homeland security, yes.

Then again, we have to finish what we started over there - and fix what we've broken - so we're in a catch-22.
 
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: DrMario
interesting...came across this on a search:

Adam Gadahn's real name is Adam Pearlman. He was born in Orange County, California and is the grandson of a member of the board of directors for the ADL.

In other words, he is a FAKE, posing as "Al Qaeda" to create the enemy Americans are supposed to hate and surrender their money, freedom, and blood out to destroy.

see: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html
LOL!! wow... We can never have too many tinfoil-coated conspiracy nutjobs around here, so welcome to ATP&N!

Not really..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn
not really? I'm sorry, but I don't buy into the "he's a fake terrorist" conspiracy theories... DrMario appears to be one of those who believes that Adam Gadahn is a CIA, MI5, or Mossad operative who is used to make "fake" videos in order to hype up the "fake terrorist group" known as Al Qaeda -- and that's just plain absurd.

The link he posted takes you to a site claiming that "Al Qaeda" means "toilet" in Arabic, and that the group itself is a PR stunt masterminded by the CIA.

I mean, wtf?! Who seriously believes that garbage? DO YOU?!
 
Iraqi oil has little to do with the price of gas. Blame the declining purchasing power of the US dollar and increased consumption by China.

I'll leave the rest of the revisionist history to the sheep in this forum......
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Noobtastic
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: DrMario
interesting...came across this on a search:

Adam Gadahn's real name is Adam Pearlman. He was born in Orange County, California and is the grandson of a member of the board of directors for the ADL.

In other words, he is a FAKE, posing as "Al Qaeda" to create the enemy Americans are supposed to hate and surrender their money, freedom, and blood out to destroy.

see: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fakealqaeda.html
LOL!! wow... We can never have too many tinfoil-coated conspiracy nutjobs around here, so welcome to ATP&N!

Not really..


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Yahiye_Gadahn
not really? I'm sorry, but I don't buy into the "he's a fake terrorist" conspiracy theories... DrMario appears to be one of those who believes that Adam Gadahn is a CIA, MI5, or Mossad operative who is used to make "fake" videos in order to hype up the "fake terrorist group" known as Al Qaeda -- and that's just plain absurd.

The link he posted takes you to a site claiming that "Al Qaeda" means "toilet" in Arabic, and that the group itself is a PR stunt masterminded by the CIA.

I mean, wtf?! Who seriously believes that garbage? DO YOU?!

Oh no I didn't actually read his post. XD
 
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