America

[Modeps]

Spawned from "A Few Draft Related Questions..."

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with many of you? It seems like the general concensus is that a Draft was instituted, most of you would dodge it or look for a backdoor to get out. You live in this country and enjoy the freedom it provides. If there is a draft, suck it up, be a man (or woman) and serve your time for this nation.

This nation has turned into a bunch of beached whales that sun themselves with TV waves and are too afraid of their own reflections to step up for a nation you should love. Even if you dont agree with the politics, you should have no qualms about giving a few years for the U S of A if it is asked of you.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

2 bucks says this winds up in P&N

 

[oniq]

I don't agree I should be killing anyone for any nation.

 

[Fausto]

Draft = go to war, get shot at. Why should I unwillingly fight in a war I believe is unjust? I'm not going to go get my ass shot off in Fallujah just to win a GWB pissing contest, sorry.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Modeps
Spawned from "A Few Draft Related Questions..."

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with many of you? It seems like the general concensus is that a Draft was instituted, most of you would dodge it or look for a backdoor to get out. You live in this country and enjoy the freedom it provides. If there is a draft, suck it up, be a man (or woman) and serve your time for this nation.

This nation has turned into a bunch of beached whales that sun themselves with TV waves and are too afraid of their own reflections to step up for a nation you should love. Even if you dont agree with the politics, you should have no qualms about giving a few years for the U S of A if it is asked of you.

amen brutha!

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: oniq
I don't agree I should be killing anyone for any nation.

Would you believe the same if we were invaded?

It's happened before.

 

[Mr N8]

I haven't replied to any of those threads, yet. I would serve if a draft were implemented. It would be tough to leave my wife for that long, but I have chosen to live in the US, and I will serve in the military if I was called to.

 

[Hubris]

Funny, cause I thought the thing that made America great was the FREEDOM that was given to us, including the freedom not to serve if we didn't want to. (And before you jump on me, I plan on serving after I graduate from college) And in times of war, there's never been a shortage of people willing to defend this country. Well, I should say in times when the war was JUSTIFIED. Vietnam was never a good idea, and Iraq isn't either. Though Iraq is less of a bad idea than Vietnam, but it's starting to blow up in our faces.

 

[Hubris]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: oniq
I don't agree I should be killing anyone for any nation.

Would you believe the same if we were invaded?

It's happened before.

:roll: Yeah, in the war of 1812 and kinda sorta in WW2.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Fausto
Draft = go to war, get shot at. Why should I unwillingly fight in a war I believe is unjust? I'm not going to go get my ass shot off in Fallujah just to win a GWB pissing contest, sorry.

If you live here it's your duty. Nobody WANTS to go to war.

I would go, but I'd never get taken.

Viper GTS

 

[Platypus]

Why should I fight in a war that I don't believe in for a country I don't believe in?


Edit: perhaps I should clarify. I don't believe in this administration's rule of America, not "America" as a concept.

 

[Anubis]

getting drafted for something that is wrong like Iraq AKA Vietnam 2 is bad, i woud doge it, if someone attacked the US and was directly threatning us i would be the first in line for a gun

 

[minendo]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Why should I fight in a war that I don't believe in for a country I don't believe in?

Perhaps you should move.

 

[Modeps]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Why should I fight in a war that I don't believe in for a country I don't believe in?

For a country you dont believe in? GTFO. :|

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Fausto
Draft = go to war, get shot at. Why should I unwillingly fight in a war I believe is unjust? I'm not going to go get my ass shot off in Fallujah just to win a GWB pissing contest, sorry.

Ditto.

How can you expect someone to fight wholeheartedly in something they do not believe in?

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Fausto
Draft = go to war, get shot at. Why should I unwillingly fight in a war I believe is unjust? I'm not going to go get my ass shot off in Fallujah just to win a GWB pissing contest, sorry.

If you live here it's your duty. Nobody WANTS to go to war.

I would go, but I'd never get taken.

Viper GTS

Of course not, but there's a difference between going to war over something relatively clear-cut (ie- WWII) and the current fiasco in Iraq. Like I said, I'm not going to go kill or be killed for a ridiculous "war" like Iraq. I have no problem serving my country in the event that military force is actually warranted.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: Modeps
Spawned from "A Few Draft Related Questions..."

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with many of you? It seems like the general concensus is that a Draft was instituted, most of you would dodge it or look for a backdoor to get out. You live in this country and enjoy the freedom it provides. If there is a draft, suck it up, be a man (or woman) and serve your time for this nation.

This nation has turned into a bunch of beached whales that sun themselves with TV waves and are too afraid of their own reflections to step up for a nation you should love. Even if you dont agree with the politics, you should have no qualms about giving a few years for the U S of A if it is asked of you.

The draft has always been controversial in this country. It does not help that there have always been exceptions of one sort or another for certain classes of people to exempt themselves from it. When it was first instituted in the Civil War there were draft riots in New York City largely fueled by the $300.00 exemption. In the 1960's that $300.00 exemption was called student deferment.

 

[se7en]

Hey gotta say Im an avid supporter of getting GWB outta office as soon as possible I'd rather have Marthta Stewart as Prez and we all knows shes the devil!

But a draft iz a draft its not about whether u support a particular war or not its about u live here u have rules just like any other country.Its not even about whether u like the prez its just about you get called to serve your country u get off ur lazy tv watchin, rude to people behind the counter,look at me im an american and as cartman would say "I do what I want" self over to another country and get shot at.

Dont like it why not move now?I here spain is nice this time of year....Anyway Im sure all the as we call them around here "fat happys" who get comfortable in their lifestyle/job so they oppose any kind of change wouldnt like to get drafted either would I but ya do what ya gotta do.I dont even like jarheads but hey draft me and I'll be one of em hehe

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: Hubris

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: oniq
I don't agree I should be killing anyone for any nation.

Would you believe the same if we were invaded?

It's happened before.

:roll: Yeah, in the war of 1812 and kinda sorta in WW2.

Absolutely. If we were invaded, give me my gun.

However, I will not fight another mans war(If I do not believe in the cause).

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: minendo

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
Why should I fight in a war that I don't believe in for a country I don't believe in?

Perhaps you should move.

Believe me, as soon as I am able to I will certainly try.


Edit: perhaps I should clarify. I don't believe in this administration, not "America" as a concept.

 

[beer]

I wouldn't fight because this is a war that we shouldn't be in. It is an exercise in imperialism and, as Fausto said, a pissing contest. I would feel differently if we had been attacked by Iraq (or any other sovreign nation) or if any of our allies were under siege. But this is not the case. The pentagon invaded a sovreign nation without just cause, and they had better solve their mistakes without bringing mandatory military service as an option.

I would burn a drat notice over serving.

 

[TheAudit]

"I wouldn't serve in a war that I don't believe it."
So there is a war out there that you do believe in?

Look, how many people are in the military? And how many military personnel are serving in Iraq?

If there ever was a draft, you are eligible, and it looks like you are going to get picked then freaking volunteer and pick the job that you want. How hard is that?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Hubris

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: oniq
I don't agree I should be killing anyone for any nation.

Would you believe the same if we were invaded?

It's happened before.

:roll: Yeah, in the war of 1812 and kinda sorta in WW2.

Absolutely. If we were invaded, give me my gun.

However, I will not fight another mans war(If I do not believe in the cause).

Thats one reason no nation has seriously entertained the notion of invading the U.S. mainland since the early 1800s. This country has more than enough firearms to discourage that.

 

[blakeatwork]

Originally posted by: se7en
Hey gotta say Im an avid supporter of getting GWB outta office as soon as possible I'd rather have Marthta Stewart as Prez and we all knows shes the devil!

But a draft iz a draft its not about whether u support a particular war or not its about u live here u have rules just like any other country.Its not even about whether u like the prez its just about you get called to serve your country u get off ur lazy tv watchin, rude to people behind the counter,look at me im an american and as cartman would say "I do what I want" self over to another country and get shot at.

Dont like it why not move now?I here spain is nice this time of year....Anyway Im sure all the as we call them around here "fat happys" who get comfortable in their lifestyle/job so they oppose any kind of change wouldnt like to get drafted either would I but ya do what ya gotta do.I dont even like jarheads but hey draft me and I'll be one of em hehe

WTH did you just say??

Speak english man..

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Hubris

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: oniq
I don't agree I should be killing anyone for any nation.

Would you believe the same if we were invaded?

It's happened before.

:roll: Yeah, in the war of 1812 and kinda sorta in WW2.

Absolutely. If we were invaded, give me my gun.

However, I will not fight another mans war(If I do not believe in the cause).

Thats once reason no nation has seriously entertained the notion of invading the U.S. mainland since the early 1800s. This country has more than enough firearms to discourage that.

could you imagin that it would be the only time that the army, gangs, the mob, militant groupes and the general public were all fighting on the same sode