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I'm not convinced the UK has done any better. The fetish for seeing everything as an opportunity for private profit seems to have led to a completely botched response.


One thing that has long puzzled me, is why there are companies that seem to specialise in 'winning government contracts'. In an entirely generic way - it's not as if they seem to specialise in any one particular field of activity, the same companies seem to win government contracts for a vast range of different kinds of tasks. This seems suspect to me - as if their skill lies not in doing the job they are contracted for, so much as in knowing how to game the tendering process in the first place.
If you've ever worked for a government contractor, knowing how to do business with the government occupies about 70% of your resources.
 

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I would agree and I am going to still vote this week for Trump.

I personally believe the left media and the left politicians are responsible for rioting and looting in the streets. The media stirs up the hate and the politicians sit back and watch it burn. They have done a major disservice to the law enforcement of this country and frankly all citizens. I've been left with no choice but to make sure to vote to keep them out of power. I feel the left are the biggest threat to this country at this time.

It's sad that I have to choose between an egotistical fool in Trump and a senile dementia ridden puppet in Biden.

I've seen nothing that makes me think Biden has dementia or is senile. Is he a bit of a centrist? Sure. But ill take it over Trump every day and twice on Sundays.
 
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So, let me get this straight, you feel the media reporting on events like the clearing of Lafayette Park, live by the way, distorted things and made people hate the police. Additionally, when people protested police brutality and were met with police brutality that this was a left political thing along with the left media. Interesting given that the dudes calling the shots were right politicians and the right media outlet was playing outdated and incorrect video showing violence that was not happening. Interesting perspective.

You truly are the epitome of someone who votes against their best interests.
I support the police. They have an awful job. They deal with the worst society has to offer on a daily basis. They are the reason your wife doesn't get mugged then raped in broad daylight while she is out for groceries. I've lived for almost 2 years with those people. They are violent, no common sense, no reasoning with them , etc.. I feel bad for the cops that had to pull these pieces of shit off the streets while worried if these pieces of shits friends were going to shoot them in the back the whole time. Now we have half the country turning their backs on police. Fucking hilarious that a felon that went to prison has more respect for the police than you guys.
 
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I support the police. They have an awful job. They deal with the worst society has to offer on a daily basis. They are the reason your wife doesn't get mugged then raped in broad daylight while she is out for groceries.

If this is your world view, then I don't know what to tell you other than seek help. Or move. Or both.
 
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I would agree and I am going to still vote this week for Trump.

I personally believe the left media and the left politicians are responsible for rioting and looting in the streets. The media stirs up the hate and the politicians sit back and watch it burn. They have done a major disservice to the law enforcement of this country and frankly all citizens. I've been left with no choice but to make sure to vote to keep them out of power. I feel the left are the biggest threat to this country at this time.

It's sad that I have to choose between an egotistical fool in Trump and a senile dementia ridden puppet in Biden.

How exactly? The media, both left and right, are reporting this very similarly. There is unrest, there is always going to be rioting and looting that accompanies that. That is a fact of human nature, when there is unrest some will take advantage of that to get violent.
What do you think that politicians should have done differently? Sending in more armed people didn't help, it made it worse. So, what policies would have worked?
The law enforcement is what caused this. The true disservice to the law enforcement of this country is that we have not done something to reign them in before it got to this point. We ignored the bad apples and they rotted the entire bushel. Now we are going to have to clean up the mess. This is not caused by liberals, or conservatives, but everyone. But only the liberals have accepted that it needs to be fixed.
 

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I support the police. They have an awful job. They deal with the worst society has to offer on a daily basis. They are the reason your wife doesn't get mugged then raped in broad daylight while she is out for groceries. I've lived for almost 2 years with those people. They are violent, no common sense, no reasoning with them , etc.. I feel bad for the cops that had to pull these pieces of shit off the streets while worried if these pieces of shits friends were going to shoot them in the back the whole time. Now we have half the country turning their backs on police. Fucking hilarious that a felon that went to prison has more respect for the police than you guys.
Now I'm actually sorry I replied to you. I didn't realize that your decision making was based on racism. You most definitely should vote for Trump.
 
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If this is your world view, then I don't know what to tell you other than seek help. Or move. Or both.
Sorry bud but real men are the reason little sissy men like yourself are safe at night. Your little bitch ass would be washing other men's drawers in prison. You know it. Thats why your little scared ass did everything mommy and daddy told you to. Now you are safe and cozy at home at night because of the protections provided to you and you want to spit in their face?
 

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I support the police. They have an awful job. They deal with the worst society has to offer on a daily basis. They are the reason your wife doesn't get mugged then raped in broad daylight while she is out for groceries. I've lived for almost 2 years with those people. They are violent, no common sense, no reasoning with them , etc.. I feel bad for the cops that had to pull these pieces of shit off the streets while worried if these pieces of shits friends were going to shoot them in the back the whole time. Now we have half the country turning their backs on police. Fucking hilarious that a felon that went to prison has more respect for the police than you guys.

Where did I say I did not respect the police?

When I use your logic I can say this back to you:
Why are you so against the protests. These are hard working people that always get the wrong end of the stick. Why do the police shot them for no reason? Why is when they finally muster enough courage to protest that everyone here thinks they are looters and anarchists? We have a country that is an oligarchy and you’re wasting time supporting the people who are controlled by the corporate lords to put down the people.

Yes the police have an awful job. Regardless, it does not give them the right to kill unarmed people and escape prosecution. Without accountability they will never change. Kind of like the dudes you were in prison with. If the punishment is not a deterrent, they go back immediately to doing it again. It is also not a few bad apples. If it was the good ones would root them out. This is systemic. It started with the drug war and today is an all out war on our rights and freedoms. I just wish those who feel a mask is such a bad thing and are ready to overthrow our government over that would see this as the true threat to our democracy which it is.
 

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Sorry bud but real men are the reason little sissy men like yourself are safe at night. Your little bitch ass would be washing other men's drawers in prison. You know it. Thats why your little scared ass did everything mommy and daddy told you to. Now you are safe and cozy at home at night because of the protections provided to you and you want to spit in their face?

Why do you always go so personal? Real men? I think you would surprised by what you would find if this were a face to face thing rather than a LCD screen with letters and numbers.
 

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Sorry bud but real men are the reason little sissy men like yourself are safe at night. Your little bitch ass would be washing other men's drawers in prison. You know it. Thats why your little scared ass did everything mommy and daddy told you to. Now you are safe and cozy at home at night because of the protections provided to you and you want to spit in their face?

You know you have a winning argument when the big bad internet tough guy routine comes out. Lmao, this is so pathetic
 

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Sorry bud but real men are the reason little sissy men like yourself are safe at night. Your little bitch ass would be washing other men's drawers in prison. You know it. Thats why your little scared ass did everything mommy and daddy told you to. Now you are safe and cozy at home at night because of the protections provided to you and you want to spit in their face?

Log out. Seek help. Or fuck off. I really don't care.
 
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I would agree and I am going to still vote this week for Trump.

I personally believe the left media and the left politicians are responsible for rioting and looting in the streets. The media stirs up the hate and the politicians sit back and watch it burn. They have done a major disservice to the law enforcement of this country and frankly all citizens. I've been left with no choice but to make sure to vote to keep them out of power. I feel the left are the biggest threat to this country at this time.

It's sad that I have to choose between an egotistical fool in Trump and a senile dementia ridden puppet in Biden.
Tell me, how many small businesses and people have been killed by the riots. Now how many by the pandemic.
 

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Did I mention race? For someone that is so woke you sure seem to bring up race a lot. I wasn't even thinking of race.. hmm...
Nope, you did what all racists do 'Those people' that way you can try to claim you meant something else.

I've lived for almost 2 years with those people. They are violent, no common sense, no reasoning with them , etc.. I feel bad for the cops that had to pull these pieces of shit off the streets
That right there is straight up white supremacy talk. I've lived most of my life in small town Texas I know where someone is avoiding using the N word but wants everyone to know that is what they mean.
 

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If we don't get our S together quicky, we will see China pass us as the dominant world power.

You don't see the full picture if you made that statement.
That die is already cast, there is simply a lag time before it is realized. The seeds are sown, harvest comes later.

The US "get our S together". Pray tell, how?
We have a divided government by design. Our elections do not have the consequence that they should have. What do you think would bring us together at any point within a generation? Our people are economically illiterate. Our government dysfunctional. America as we knew it is finished, one way or another. While I hope we can find a way forward - we are not well prepared to do so and will in all likelihood collapse from within. Especially given the size and scope of Trump's base and our inability to find common ground with them.

One does not simply win an election and solve America's problems. That's not how it works, unfortunately. Our malaise runs far deeper than that.
 

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I would agree and I am going to still vote this week for Trump.

I personally believe the left media and the left politicians are responsible for rioting and looting in the streets. The media stirs up the hate and the politicians sit back and watch it burn. They have done a major disservice to the law enforcement of this country and frankly all citizens. I've been left with no choice but to make sure to vote to keep them out of power. I feel the left are the biggest threat to this country at this time.

It's sad that I have to choose between an egotistical fool in Trump and a senile dementia ridden puppet in Biden.
You are a straight up fool. Chew on that a while, maybe you will have a brain storm. Absent that, I suggest you take up bowling and forget the rest.
 
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Good God. It's like talking to a bunch of poopy heads again. What are we in the 5th grade again?


OILFIELDTRASH said:
Sure kid. You are very likely a basement troll that looks like you have down syndrome. Maybe if you're nice, cut your genitalia off, and dye your hair blue Hunter will throw you a f@cking. I'm sure you're at least halfway through your transition at this point.
You are one depraved sick bastard. I bet you look like a fucking troll that a woman wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole.
Sorry bud but real men are the reason little sissy men like yourself are safe at night. Your little bitch ass would be washing other men's drawers in prison. You know it. Thats why your little scared ass did everything mommy and daddy told you to.

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self-a·ware·ness
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  1. conscious knowledge of one's own character, feelings, motives, and desires.
    "the process can be painful but it leads to greater self-awareness"
 
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Nope, you did what all racists do 'Those people' that way you can try to claim you meant something else.


That right there is straight up white supremacy talk. I've lived most of my life in small town Texas I know where someone is avoiding using the N word but wants everyone to know that is what they mean.
lol. I'm not even white genius. Move onto the next step in the leftist playbook. What comes after your argument has failed and the racist comment falls flat on its face?
 
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Smogzinn: Small town Texas? Sad. You must be an outsider. I don't know any native Texans stupid enough to vote Democrat.
 

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I never read it as racist. Just the ramblings of someone completely engulfed in paranoia, fear and ignorance. Or someone attempting to incite completely ineffective division. I lean more into the second as you have shown absolutely zero intent in legitimate conversation and just fall back on spewing whatever bullshit talking points show up on a Fox News bingo card. You aren't interested in learning. Just spewing ignorance.
 

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Yep.

BTW, China's economy is growing again at ~4.6%, while ours has shrunk by a similar amount.

If we don't get our S together quicky, we will see China pass us as the dominant world power.

Public health is economic health.
China has officially passed us economically just last week, as per the IMF.
 
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MrPickins

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Smogzinn: Small town Texas? Sad. You must be an outsider. I don't know any native Texans stupid enough to vote Democrat.

Funny, 50% or more of the native Texans I know (myself included) are voting Democrat this year.

Maybe you should look outside your bubble.

As an aside, give it a rest with the whole real men/soyboy schtick. It just makes you look insecure and your argument weak.
 

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Smogzinn: Small town Texas? Sad. You must be an outsider. I don't know any native Texans stupid enough to vote Democrat.

lol, I grew up in a small town outside Gidding. Most of my family still live in Goliad. I went to undergrad at UH, Masters at Baylor and PhD at Rice. I currently live in Desoto outside of Dallas. I have only spent a few years outside of Texas, and that was in Alaska. I am about as Texan as they come.