"AMD's role in Stealth Viral Marketing - Q&A" source ABT link inside

[AdamK47]

3dfx has this great form of anti-aliasing that no other GPU manufacturer uses. It's called Rotated Grid Anti Aliasing. It's something the nVidia GeForce 256 and ATI Radeon cannot do. If you want superior image quality, look no further than the VooDoo 4 and VooDoo 5 line of video cards by 3dfx.

 

[WelshBloke]

1. Looks up IP address
2. Find out where it is located
3. Looks at locations of posters
4. ??
5. Profit.

Like I said he could also have guessed from the posting style.

Neither of our methods would be described as having an IP address match though.

 

[blackened23]

3dfx has this great form of anti-aliasing that no other GPU manufacturer uses. It's called Rotated Grid Anti Aliasing. It's something the nVidia GeForce 256 and ATI Radeon cannot do. If you want superior image quality, look no further than the VooDoo 4 and VooDoo 5 line of video cards by 3dfx.

I have a celeron 300a oc'ed to 450, will this CPU work okay or should I upgrade? I play mostly FPS games like Quake 3

 

[AdamK47]

I have a celeron 300a oc'ed to 450, will this CPU work okay or should I upgrade? I play mostly FPS games like Quake 3

It's fine. I recommend the Voodoo 5 5500 for such a setup.

 

[bryanW1995]

Actually this part is true.

I am still here much to the chagrin of many on here now and thanks to some of the very same folks that hate me now otherwise I would be either still rotting or already died in a Georgia prison.

I can't say for certain but I doubt if that situation happened today if that same effort to free me from nefarious Politicians would occur today.

Instead of squashing a Witch Hunt I believe you would hear burn the witch at the stake now.

You are wrong. I have friends in Georgia. If it was South Dakota you might be SOL, however.

 

[bryanW1995]

I don't like shills. In fact, apoppin and I were two of the main people involved in getting rid of Rollo. And while Mark and I used to get along quite well, he became more and more erratic over time. He is now very excitable and writes in a very disjointed manner that is hard to follow. He seems to quickly jump to conclusions and quite often posts without any reservation. He definitely has a grudge against ATF, its staff and some of the people here. Me included, for some reason.

To be honest, I expected to see some sort of concrete proof in apoppin's ABT thread that AMD has viral agents here at ATF. Instead, apoppin seems to have strung a few old facts together with a whole lot of hints, sly winks and innuendo and came up with a huge conspiracy theory.

Seems like whole lot of not much to me.

Rollo is just one guy. On a professional level, I somewhat understand their goals/aims (since I sell cars), but I still think that AMD is currently making the same tactical error that NV made before them. Ah, well, the moral high ground doesn't pay too well, anyway...

It's fine. I recommend the Voodoo 5 5500 for such a setup.

My friend has that card, and he has this sort of herky-jerky thing happening... almost like some kind of stuttering...but it's really small and hard to see. Why don't we call it micro-stuttering?

 

[WelshBloke]

Rollo is just one guy. On a professional level, I somewhat understand their goals/aims (since I sell cars), but I still think that AMD is currently making the same tactical error that NV made before them. Ah, well, the moral high ground doesn't pay too well, anyway...

I think your (and Apoppins) error is assuming something is true and then finding evidence to fit that assumption.

 

[bryanW1995]

Naw, I've told apoppin' here in our forums many times recently that he's on a wild goose chase, and I still think that's a distinct possibility. I just am not as convinced of that stance as I was before, in large part because I don't think that he's lying about anything. Think about it: for years and years, he was the biggest AMD fan on the planet. And it was mutual. When his site opened up, he had to be on AMD's radar, right? Most of you weren't here back when apoppin and keys became the vc&g mods, but it was the wild west back then. They would go back and forth for several pages, with apoppin always championing AMD. If AMD had a viral marketing campaign, they certainly would have told him about it, and he certainly wouldn't have ratted them out as a website reviewer. Trust me, NV and AMD both offer "bribes", "inducements" or whatever you want to call them, to reviewers regularly, and nobody in his right mind would out either of them on it. That's part of why Ryan Smith caught so much flak for the gtx 460 SSC card included in the 6870 review, remember? AT is supposed to be above that sort of thing, yet the perception of bias was there. Unfortunately for AMD and Apoppin, their relationship has steadily deteriorated over the past 18 months, in large part due to NV's decision to make nice with him. In fact, and this is pure speculation on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Rollo or one of his ilk had a meeting at some point with some NV marketing honcho and convinced that guy that they needed to "turn" apoppin. Regardless, when AMD severed ties with ABT, then apoppin had to reason to not air their dirty laundry. Is it a mistake on his part? I think it is, and I hope for his sake that he repairs his relationship with AMD in the future. But for now, it sure makes for some interesting fireworks, no?

 

[railven]

Naw, I've told apoppin' here in our forums many times recently that he's on a wild goose chase, and I still think that's a distinct possibility. I just am not as convinced of that stance as I was before, in large part because I don't think that he's lying about anything. Think about it: for years and years, he was the biggest AMD fan on the planet. And it was mutual. When his site opened up, he had to be on AMD's radar, right? Most of you weren't here back when apoppin and keys became the vc&g mods, but it was the wild west back then. They would go back and forth for several pages, with apoppin always championing AMD. If AMD had a viral marketing campaign, they certainly would have told him about it, and he certainly wouldn't have ratted them out as a website reviewer. Trust me, NV and AMD both offer "bribes", "inducements" or whatever you want to call them, to reviewers regularly, and nobody in his right mind would out either of them on it. That's part of why Ryan Smith caught so much flak for the gtx 460 SSC card included in the 6870 review, remember? AT is supposed to be above that sort of thing, yet the perception of bias was there. Unfortunately for AMD and Apoppin, their relationship has steadily deteriorated over the past 18 months, in large part due to NV's decision to make nice with him. In fact, and this is pure speculation on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Rollo or one of his ilk had a meeting at some point with some NV marketing honcho and convinced that guy that they needed to "turn" apoppin. Regardless, when AMD severed ties with ABT, then apoppin had to reason to not air their dirty laundry. Is it a mistake on his part? I think it is, and I hope for his sake that he repairs his relationship with AMD in the future. But for now, it sure makes for some interesting fireworks, no?

I completely agree with that part. It seems only after AMD shafted Apoppin his journalist duties as someone on a quest to shine light on the truth came into fruition.

In a sense - he's blackmailing AMD. He's done it with nVidia and tells how it improved his relationship with them, well why not try your luck again? But it seems since AMD fired their PR people (probably along with Pro-Apoppin figures) they don't seem to care. Why should they?

7 articles in October, 6 articles in November, and 1 article in December and January. That's 15 articles in 4 months, about 120/15 == 1 article every 8 days.

Makes you wonder what shenanigans happened over at ABT that their writing staff left. Axe to grind against ATF - definitely. Why it seems this forum is the primary target of the hate from its community and senior editor.

 

[WelshBloke]

... Why it seems this forum is the primary target of the hate from its community and senior editor.

You can't work that one out? Have a look at some of the posters there and their history here.

 

[WelshBloke]

Naw, I've told apoppin' here in our forums many times recently that he's on a wild goose chase, and I still think that's a distinct possibility. I just am not as convinced of that stance as I was before, in large part because I don't think that he's lying about anything. Think about it: for years and years, he was the biggest AMD fan on the planet. And it was mutual. When his site opened up, he had to be on AMD's radar, right? Most of you weren't here back when apoppin and keys became the vc&g mods, but it was the wild west back then. They would go back and forth for several pages, with apoppin always championing AMD. If AMD had a viral marketing campaign, they certainly would have told him about it, and he certainly wouldn't have ratted them out as a website reviewer. Trust me, NV and AMD both offer "bribes", "inducements" or whatever you want to call them, to reviewers regularly, and nobody in his right mind would out either of them on it. That's part of why Ryan Smith caught so much flak for the gtx 460 SSC card included in the 6870 review, remember? AT is supposed to be above that sort of thing, yet the perception of bias was there. Unfortunately for AMD and Apoppin, their relationship has steadily deteriorated over the past 18 months, in large part due to NV's decision to make nice with him. In fact, and this is pure speculation on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Rollo or one of his ilk had a meeting at some point with some NV marketing honcho and convinced that guy that they needed to "turn" apoppin. Regardless, when AMD severed ties with ABT, then apoppin had to reason to not air their dirty laundry. Is it a mistake on his part? I think it is, and I hope for his sake that he repairs his relationship with AMD in the future. But for now, it sure makes for some interesting fireworks, no?

I still think you're strong on assumptions and short on facts there.

 

[96Firebird]

Like I said he could also have guessed from the posting style.

Neither of our methods would be described as having an IP address match though.

I'm not even sure what he said about IP addresses anyways, mind quoting it? I would look myself, but I'm on a short lunch break today and doesn't look like the day is going to slow down any... :\

 

[railven]

You can't work that one out? Have a look at some of the posters there and their history here.

I'm aware of the banning, but from what I understand some of them have been banned in other forums - yet it seems their ultimate hate is for this forum.

Guess when you have a forum admin that nourishes it with their own spite - what do you expect?

 

[MrK6]

Naw, I've told apoppin' here in our forums many times recently that he's on a wild goose chase, and I still think that's a distinct possibility. I just am not as convinced of that stance as I was before, in large part because I don't think that he's lying about anything. Think about it: for years and years, he was the biggest AMD fan on the planet. And it was mutual. When his site opened up, he had to be on AMD's radar, right? Most of you weren't here back when apoppin and keys became the vc&g mods, but it was the wild west back then. They would go back and forth for several pages, with apoppin always championing AMD. If AMD had a viral marketing campaign, they certainly would have told him about it, and he certainly wouldn't have ratted them out as a website reviewer. Trust me, NV and AMD both offer "bribes", "inducements" or whatever you want to call them, to reviewers regularly, and nobody in his right mind would out either of them on it. That's part of why Ryan Smith caught so much flak for the gtx 460 SSC card included in the 6870 review, remember? AT is supposed to be above that sort of thing, yet the perception of bias was there. Unfortunately for AMD and Apoppin, their relationship has steadily deteriorated over the past 18 months, in large part due to NV's decision to make nice with him. In fact, and this is pure speculation on my part, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if Rollo or one of his ilk had a meeting at some point with some NV marketing honcho and convinced that guy that they needed to "turn" apoppin. Regardless, when AMD severed ties with ABT, then apoppin had to reason to not air their dirty laundry. Is it a mistake on his part? I think it is, and I hope for his sake that he repairs his relationship with AMD in the future. But for now, it sure makes for some interesting fireworks, no?

I completely agree with that part. It seems only after AMD shafted Apoppin his journalist duties as someone on a quest to shine light on the truth came into fruition.

In a sense - he's blackmailing AMD. He's done it with nVidia and tells how it improved his relationship with them, well why not try your luck again? But it seems since AMD fired their PR people (probably along with Pro-Apoppin figures) they don't seem to care. Why should they?

7 articles in October, 6 articles in November, and 1 article in December and January. That's 15 articles in 4 months, about 120/15 == 1 article every 8 days.

Makes you wonder what shenanigans happened over at ABT that their writing staff left. Axe to grind against ATF - definitely. Why it seems this forum is the primary target of the hate from its community and senior editor.

I agree with railven and will add: personal relationships may hold him in a higher regard, but in general his site gets insignificant traffic and literally no one cares what he thinks. What's to say he didn't try to twist AMD's arm into getting himself on the review circuit and it blew up in his face when AMD said "no, we could care less"? I'm just looking at it as the simple point that he went and made this website, supposedly all about new tech/hardware and the latest scoop, and then got the rug pulled out from under him. That's got to be a blow to the self-esteem, especially since it undermines everything he's worked for for what, the last decade? But in the end, I can't blame AMD because it looks like they were right, look how he's handled it, with a complete lack of professionalism or respect for his contemporaries. It really speaks volumes, and anyone who's followed what he's done and written in the past shouldn't be surprised.

 

[bryanW1995]

I still think you're strong on assumptions and short on facts there.

I'm stronger on facts than assumptions, but I'm not at liberty to share all the info that I have access to. I personally have no ax to grind with anybody except douchebag viral marketers like Rollo, and if nothing else this thread has convinced him to out one of his backup id's.

 

[railven]

I'm not even sure what he said about IP addresses anyways, mind quoting it? I would look myself, but I'm on a short lunch break today and doesn't look like the day is going to slow down any... :\

Original Post:

Do you like posting different things at different tech sites under different usernames?
CrossFire scales perfectly ...
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.ph ... ostcount=2

. . . and over here at ABT, you have issues with it
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=24186

Edited into the post about 10-minutes later:

We have an IP match. So which is it? You cannot have it both ways.

Apoppin doesn't disclose edits he does to any post of his posts - I've noticed him completely change the meaning of a post.

So much for transparency.

 

[bryanW1995]

I agree with railven and will add: personal relationships may hold him in a higher regard, but in general his site gets insignificant traffic and literally no one cares what he thinks. What's to say he didn't try to twist AMD's arm into getting himself on the review circuit and it blew up in his face when AMD said "no, we could care less"? I'm just looking at it as the simple point that he went and made this website, supposedly all about new tech/hardware and the latest scoop, and then got the rug pulled out from under him. That's got to be a blow to the self-esteem, especially since it undermines everything he's worked for for what, the last decade? But in the end, I can't blame AMD because it looks like they were right, look how he's handled it, with a complete lack of professionalism or respect for his contemporaries. It really speaks volumes, and anyone who's followed what he's done and written in the past shouldn't be surprised.

Why do you have such a grudge against apoppin? I admit that I haven't kept very up-to-date on the recent finger-pointing drama other than the (false) belief that grooveriding is part of the "cabal", has apoppin been picking on you as well?

 

[WelshBloke]

I'm stronger on facts than assumptions, but I'm not at liberty to share all the info that I have access to. I personally have no ax to grind with anybody except douchebag viral marketers like Rollo, and if nothing else this thread has convinced him to out one of his backup id's.

90% of that long post I quoted was assumptions.

Now you may be privy to some super secret facts but the rest of us aren't. You can't really blame us for wanting more than "well it's true but I can't tell you why".

 

[MrK6]

Why do you have such a grudge against apoppin? I admit that I haven't kept very up-to-date on the recent finger-pointing drama other than the (false) belief that grooveriding is part of the "cabal", has apoppin been picking on you as well?

Not in the least, I don't even know him. I'm just reading the situation like I see it. How would you interpret it differently, and why are my assumptions any worse than yours? For instance: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/alienbabeltech.com

 

[railven]

Not in the least, I don't even know him. I'm just reading the situation like I see it. How would you interpret it differently, and why are my assumptions any worse than yours? For instance: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/alienbabeltech.com

Woof, guess Apoppin was right when he said he wasn't doing this for page hits - ABT has dropped from ~260,000 to ~320,000 since the last time Alexa was mentioned - and that was about 5 days ago.

 

[f1sherman]

I just like 'yes' or 'no' answers.

Have you stopped beating your wife?

Yes or no answer only please.

Good one...but I don't have a wife.

.......................

 

[Grooveriding]

This picture cracks me up. ()

 

[blastingcap]

I agree with railven and will add: personal relationships may hold him in a higher regard, but in general his site gets insignificant traffic and literally no one cares what he thinks. What's to say he didn't try to twist AMD's arm into getting himself on the review circuit and it blew up in his face when AMD said "no, we could care less"? I'm just looking at it as the simple point that he went and made this website, supposedly all about new tech/hardware and the latest scoop, and then got the rug pulled out from under him. That's got to be a blow to the self-esteem, especially since it undermines everything he's worked for for what, the last decade? But in the end, I can't blame AMD because it looks like they were right, look how he's handled it, with a complete lack of professionalism or respect for his contemporaries. It really speaks volumes, and anyone who's followed what he's done and written in the past shouldn't be surprised.

Not could care less. Could NOT care less. Grammar, people...

Anyway, I can see that as a possibility given how thin-skinned he's been on here and the way he carries himself.

If he's had evidence for years why DID he bring it up now? If he has hard evidence, why doesn't he elaborate?

I think the thread that Keys posted in OP, raises more questions than it answers.

 

[GaiaHunter]

Rollo is just one guy. On a professional level, I somewhat understand their goals/aims (since I sell cars), but I still think that AMD is currently making the same tactical error that NV made before them. Ah, well, the moral high ground doesn't pay too well, anyway...

What tells you NVIDIA isn't still making stealth marketing?

Just because they have identified focus members?

 

[bryanW1995]

Certainly possible that nv is still doing it as well, though they're at least smart enough to refrain from openly recruiting reviewers.