amd690 or nforce chipset

Lazark

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Im thinking about a new motherboard, but I dunno about which chipset for an athlon X2 is the best.
anyone?


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heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: Lazark
Im thinking about a new motherboard, but I dunno about which chipset for an athlon X2 is the best.
anyone?


thanks

690g - - - htpc / HDCP / basic desktop with IGP / single PCIe 2.0

770 - - - ???

790x - - - intermediate / PCIe 2.0 - some with 2 x16 slots

790fx - - - high end / PCIe 2.0 / some 4x x16 slots (run x8x8x8x8 for 'quad' Crossfire)

not sure if nVidia '790/770' or ??? chipset on market yet

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chucky2

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Not sure on the 7xx stuff, but I know 690G doesn't have PCIe 2.0, it's version 1.

Basically, if you want integrated video, 690G is it.

If you don't, then you go with the 7xx series from AMD. I think those options have superceeded the nForce 5xx options from nVidia.

Chuck
 

renethx

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A bunch of new motherboards will be released in January-February 2008 based on AMD 780G (RS780) and nForce 780a SLI (MCP72XE), 750a SLI (MCP72P), 730a (MCP78H), GeForce 9200/nForce 730a (MCP78U), GeForce 8200/nForce 730a (MCP78S). The official release date of most of the nForce chipsets is Janaury 28, 2008. That of AMD 780G is unknown.

Whether you go for AMD or NVIDIA, you'd better wait. Performance increase (3D and HD video playback) from the current AMD 690G or GeForce 7050 (MCP68) is significant. For example,

http://www.pconline.com.cn/diy...ws/0712/1189121_4.html
 

Lazark

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thanks for the replies, but where I am, I can choose betwen amd690 or nforce 5.xx or 4.xx
I not thinking of using either of the combos (sound +video), I just concern about the performance. That card will be using a 8800gt and a 5000+ 2.6ghz x2 athlon.

thanks!

by the way, it is true the boost in performance of the new chipsets (amd 790, nforce 7.xx, etc)
 

chucky2

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Gary Key, the (or the primary) AnandTech motherboard reviewer, has commented in another thread here that 790 was looking very nice for the current Socket-AM2 X2 chips. If you had to buy right now, and didn't care about onboard video, then that's what I'd get.

The additional advantage is if you get Socket-AM2+, then not only is it guaranteed to run the AM2 and AM2+ chips, it should be able to run the future AM3 chips as well. So, you definitely get the future proofing...

Chuck
 

heyheybooboo

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Originally posted by: chucky2
Not sure on the 7xx stuff, but I know 690G doesn't have PCIe 2.0, it's version 1.

Basically, if you want integrated video, 690G is it.

If you don't, then you go with the 7xx series from AMD. I think those options have superceeded the nForce 5xx options from nVidia.

Chuck

Thanks, Chucky :thumbsup:

 

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Originally posted by: heyheybooboo
Originally posted by: chucky2
Not sure on the 7xx stuff, but I know 690G doesn't have PCIe 2.0, it's version 1.

Basically, if you want integrated video, 690G is it.

If you don't, then you go with the 7xx series from AMD. I think those options have superceeded the nForce 5xx options from nVidia.

Chuck

Thanks, Chucky :thumbsup:

I don't think it matters PCI-E x16 or PCI-E 2.0
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2135542&enterthread=y
 

renethx

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Where is the benchmark? I have been looking for it to make sure PCIe Gen 2 does not matter for the current Gen 2 video cards, but couldn't find one.
 

chucky2

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I've seen numerous posts over in Video that the PCIe 2.0 cards are running fine on the PCIe 1 mobo's.

I think the big thing with PCIe 2.0 is the extra voltage available through the PCIe slots, rather than an additional connection from the power supply.

Chuck
 

renethx

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I mean performance gain.

PCIe 2.0 card + PCIe 2.0 mb = PCIe 2.0 card + PCIe 1.1 mb in performance?

Many people say so, but benchmark results would be more convincing.
 

chucky2

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Yeah, that I don't know...

My guess would be the current crop of video cards don't need (or really benefit all that much, if any) either the performance or additional power benefits of PCIe 2.0, but it's more of a preparing for the future type of thing from both a video card and motherboard standpoint.

Chuck
 

Lazark

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this topic has moved to a more pci1 v/s ps2 thing, but the thing that Im asking is that it really pays a new mother from a new chipset than rather a mature motherboard of an actual chipset.
(Im not thinking of OC or buying a new processor in the future)
 

chucky2

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It's pretty hard to beat the Gigabyte GA-MA69GM-S2H, given all it's features are pretty low price.

It's a 690G board, so it does have the onboard video, but maybe that'll help you out when you decide to part ways with your 8800. It also supports Phenom CPU's, just flash up to the latest BIOS.

Chuck
 

renethx

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New chipsets (nForce 780a/750a SLI, nForce 730a etc.) supports Hybrid SLI and Hybrid Power with GeForce 8800 GT that reduces power consumption at idle significantly because the discrete graphics core will be turned off when it's not needed (Power Saving mode). 780a/750a SLI has IGP with VGA/DVI/HDMI/DislayPort (depending each mb). (Considering SB600 is still current, I can say 780a SLI is ahead of 790FX.) Other than that (and apart from HT3.0/Socket AM2+/PCIe 2.0 that are pretty useless for 5000+ and 8800GT), perhaps you won't see significant performance difference.