LegendKiller
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Originally posted by: JasonCoder
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: G Wizard
AMD isnt going anywhere.
in '02 this stock was ~3.00 a share.
but the AT experts say they are out of money.
I know that your whole existance depends on hyperbole, ignorance, and trolling, but fact is fact. AMD is bleeding cash and they'll get much worse. They shouldn't have piled on 2.3 billion in extra long-term debt to acquire ATI. Their total debt exposure went from just under 4 billion to 7.3 billion. Their interest expense increased 20%+, when their EBITDA was decreasing by a factor of 2. I could break these financials down into a myriad of ratios, all fo which would just go over your head anyway. Why? Because you would rather troll this board and post idiotic comments like above.
Does the fact that they shipped a record-high number of processors this quarter have any significance? (just asking)
Who cares what they ship if they make no money doing it?
Ok, I'll bite. To garner market share? If they hemorrhaged cash AND chip shipments dropped it would look worse.
You are assuming that they'll be able to get out of that downward spiral. Furthermore, you are assuming that they have the cash to absorb such a move. They might of, had they not acquired AMD. HOwever, now they are being squeezed not only by margin decreases, but also by increased debt costs due to the acquisition. Add to that the decreasing margins for GPUs, you get a vice grip squeezing on the entire operation.
The biggest probelm is that when a company such as Intel has deep pockets you can't win by just price, you have to win by price and innovation, like AMD did a few years ago. Intel can just keep prices down, keep innovating faster through massive R&D, and keep squeezing AMD until they pop. Where in that cycle will AMD be able to increase price after they have captured market share?
Furthermore, where will they find reduced costs to make economies of scale profitable? You can't have expensive operations and cheap processors, you have to make profits somewhere, and they are failing.
AMD really had Intel by the nuts, P4 was a horrible mistake on Intel's part and it took them years to catch up. Had AMD chosen the right path they'd still be whupping Intel on innovation, while being able to keep their prices low enough. On a price/performance ratio they would have been set pretty well. However, Ruiz chose the wrong path and is now squandering valuable resources. ATI was a grasping at straws move.
