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Hey don't we have to take a look at price ratio too???

It is not only the quality that counts... Needs are important... So P4 might be good, I don't know, but for which needs? Same for TBird... that is what matters, I would say and once you wrote down your expectations, you might want to choose individually....

So lets talk about some things P4 overs over AMD and vice versa...

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Ok you guys. Flamers stop here. AMDs are just as good as Intel.....Intels are just as good as AMD. I, myself, am not bias against either company because they are both DAMN good! Pentium 4s have a hell of a future for them, because they have lots of potential. Once software distributors create software that has SSE2 in it, they are going to fly like there's no tomorrow. However, I think Intel made a bad choice when they decided not to put in x86 compatibility in their new Itanium core. That's one spot where AMD leads tremendously over Intel, in my opinion. Who wants to run x86 apps on 100Mhz Pentium speeds! Not me!

Just my two cents.
 
Ok you guys. Flamers stop here. AMDs are just as good as Intel.....Intels are just as good as AMD. I, myself, am not bias against either company because they are both DAMN good! Pentium 4s have a hell of a future for them, because they have lots of potential. Once software distributors create software that has SSE2 in it, they are going to fly like there's no tomorrow. However, I think Intel made a bad choice when they decided not to put in x86 compatibility in their new Itanium core. That's one spot where AMD leads tremendously over Intel, in my opinion. Who wants to run x86 apps on 100Mhz Pentium speeds! Not me!

Just my two cents.
 


<< However, I think Intel made a bad choice when they decided not to put in x86 compatibility in their new Itanium core. >>



Itanium has full on-die complete support for IA32/IA16/IA8/x86 - the hardware for this is completely on die. The code can be completely interleaved with 64-bit instructions, so you should be able to run the original Doom natively on Windows 64 (if Microsoft lets you) on an Itanium system.

It seems like you are referring more to x86 performance than compatiblity. About the only thing that I will say on that subject is that any numbers you have currently are not final and are coming from test/pilot systems.

Patrick Mahoney
Itanium Processor Family (IPF) Microprocessor Design
Intel Corp.
 
ahhh.. I think not. I use both Intel and AMD chips @ home and work. By looking at your systems rigs you use only Intel. Hmmm.

Bias is subjective.
 
Ahh... So far so good, no bigger flame war hasn't turned out yet 🙂 Aren't you guys tired of that AMD vs Intel stuff ? What about x86 vs Alpha or SUN (UltraSPARC) for a change ? I probably would be on the RISC side 🙂
 
Sorry guys. I am new to this forum and I didn't realize that this was a long standing war. If I had, I wouldn't have posted this thread.

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I used to be a big fan of Intel. I used nothing but them. I loved the BX chipset. Lately I have grown quite distant from them. They have not released a good chipset in a while. Forcing us to use rambus memory too is a big mistake. Marketing BS about NetBrust to speed up Internet apps is a down right lie. They strong arm companies like Dell, Gateway and, ECT? To use only their processors is wrong. Here is a true thing that happened to my friend that works at CompUSA. Some Intel Reps came in told the staff that AMD chip are incompatible with most of today?s software. Also told them that some ISPs will not work with AMD chips. Thats no BS too it happened about 3 weeks ago. Plus Intel prices are not justified.

AMD did make some past mistakes too. K6 is the biggest one. Underestimating Intel?s low end Celeron was an other.

Today IMHO AMD leads the high end and low end PC technology.
AMD has filed 3 times as many patents in the last 2 years then Intel has.

 
I do not want to start a flame war.
Have any of you seen intel and amd share price?
Both are a good buy right now.
 
NOS440: If you say that RTS writes bull, then please explain how the things really are/were (or how you see them). IMHO RTS wasn't writing BS...
 
RTSgod,



<< Here is a true thing that happened to my friend that works at CompUSA. >>



ever hear of a thing called hearsay?

and why would intel reps be in a random compusa.

I prefer amd processors, but if I knew nothing about them and just heard you say what you did, then I would never trust any wacko advocating amd.

no offense but think before you post.
 
Well, you are entitled to believe whatever you want to believe, RTS. I will say that in my time here on Anandtech I have never knowingly lied about anything. I call a spade a spade, and I don't tend to tow the Intel marketing line on every issues. Has anyone ever seen me endorse Direct RDRAM? Ever? I have never spread FUD on AMD and, in fact, I have tried to make it clear in every post that I make on the subject that I respect the engineers at AMD (and Cyrix/Via for that matter), that it's obvious without me even saying so that AMD has a very competitive product in the Athlon, and I definitely think that the competition currently occurring in the microprocessor business is a good thing.

RTS, I have spent the last several years of my life working on the McKinley CPU, and I can tell you that Itanium processors fully natively and completely support the IA32 instruction set. If you choose not to believe me, then you can continue to live in disillusion.

And you accuse me of bias? Of course, I'm biased - I work for Intel, they hired me out of college, have paid me very well to do a job that I enjoy. I have made no attempt to hide the fact that I work for Intel. Accusing me of bias is like accusing a bird of being able to fly - it's a ridiculously obvious statement. But bias has nothing to do with facts. My statement that Itanium CPU's are IA32 compatible is a well known fact, in fact, I know a website at Compaq that I can give you where you can log in and run some IA32 code on an Itanium system just to see that it works. I can back up my statement with several forms of proof - including relevant sections out of the Itanium Software Developer's manual (in fact, page 2-1 of the manual says it very clearly &quot;Both IA-32 application level code and IA-64 instructions can be executed by the operating system and user level software.&quot; but I can find you more references, if you like)

And all I'm saying about performance is that before anyone slams the performance of the product, please wait until it's released. I remember a whole bunch of pre-release reviews on chipsets, graphics cards, and CPUs that ended up looking ridiculous when the real product came out (Firingsquad's pre-release review of the Athlon, anyone?).

I generally stay out of these AMD vs. Intel flamewars, and I only jumped in to clarify on one point: that Itanium processors are fully IA32 compatible.

Patrick Mahoney
IPF Microprocessor Design
Intel Corp.
 
Yea and I believe this subject was about Overclocking and which ones are being overclocked and the answer is both period.
 
I do not want this to be a flame war. So, I better shut up. This is my last post on this subject. I do not want any of you pissed at me. Have a good weekend all.

I need to get out of this place (work). I hear AOE2 TC calling me.
MS zone here a come. I play AOE2 there as AbiterRecall. Any of you play? Look me up.

Now for the 1 1/2 hour drive home. 🙁

 
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