AMD vs Intel dual cores?

[hyrum]

Looking at the following processors:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4200+ 2.2GHz
Intel Core? 2 Duo Processor E6400 2.13GHz
Intel Core? 2 Duo Processor E6600 2.4GHz

Obviously the 2.4 Intel is faster than the 2.13 but how does the AMD dual core processors stack up against the Intel ones? Would I be better off with one or the other or are they comparable?

 

[JAG87]

its gets smoked.
amd is dust right now.

 

[hyrum]

Damn I'm trying to figure out what processor to go with and in my mind I can't get over the fact that the duo cores are better than a straight processor. What I mean is...I can get a duo core 1.86 and that is supposed to be better than a standalone 3.2? I am trying to piece together a system for an upcoming game that requires a 3.0Ghz processor and want to make sure I don't cripple myself 6 months down the road.

 

[cmdrdredd]

overclock the 1.86Ghz C2D to 3.2Ghz and you don't have to worry.

 

[n7]

Rough order of performance best to worst for most common current dual cores (please check out the reviews here & elsewhere to verify)

C2D X6800
C2D E6700
C2D E6600
A64 FX-62
A64 FX-60/A64 X2 5200+
C2D E6400/A64 X2 5000+
A64 X2 4800+
C2D E6300/X2 4600+
X2 4400+
X2 4200+
X2 3800+
Basically all Pentium Ds

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: n7
Rough order of performance best to worst for most common current dual cores (please check out the reviews here & elsewhere to verify)

C2D X6800
C2D E6700
C2D E6600
A64 FX-62
A64 FX-60/A64 X2 5200+
C2D E6400/A64 X2 5000+
A64 X2 4800+
C2D E6300/X2 4600+
X2 4400+
X2 4200+
X2 3800+
Basically all Pentium Ds

At stock.... When you OC, all C2D's come over over all X2's IMO

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: n7
Rough order of performance best to worst for most common current dual cores (please check out the reviews here & elsewhere to verify)

C2D X6800
C2D E6700
C2D E6600
A64 FX-62
A64 FX-60/A64 X2 5200+
C2D E6400/A64 X2 5000+
A64 X2 4800+
C2D E6300/X2 4600+
X2 4400+
X2 4200+
X2 3800+
Basically all Pentium Ds

At stock.... When you OC, all C2D's come over over all X2's IMO

QFT!!! A nice easy standard air OC of the C2D will beat any air overclock of current AMD models...A 3.2ghz E6300 is goiing to take near a 3.6ghz A64 to match it and you are not likely doing that on water...

Run stock now and then know when you need some extra juice it is in the reserve!!!


I wouldn't have swicthed out all of my AMD boxes for C2D systems over the last month and a half if I didn't believe they were considerably faster

 

[Cogman]

Originally posted by: hyrum
Damn I'm trying to figure out what processor to go with and in my mind I can't get over the fact that the duo cores are better than a straight processor. What I mean is...I can get a duo core 1.86 and that is supposed to be better than a standalone 3.2? I am trying to piece together a system for an upcoming game that requires a 3.0Ghz processor and want to make sure I don't cripple myself 6 months down the road.

One thing that you should relieve is GHZ don't matter that much, they make a difference but they aren't everything. (long explanations will follow). anyways, Dual cores are definitely our future. As of now not a lot of apps are multi threaded (use 2 cores instead of one) so the main benefit you will see is in multitasking.

Core 2 Duo is awesome, much better then any other processor out there, single or duo. If you have the funds, buy it (or wait till February when the prices should drop).

 

[fatty4ksu]

As of now (And prolly 4ever) Intel(daddy)>>>>AMD

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
As of now (And prolly 4ever) Intel(daddy)>>>>AMD

Go back under your bridge troll...

I now have Intel as my 3 (soon to be 3 boxes) and you are still a troll.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Markfw900

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
As of now (And prolly 4ever) Intel(daddy)>>>>AMD

Go back under your bridge troll...

I now have Intel as my 3 (soon to be 3 boxes) and you are still a troll.

QFT!!!!!!!!

 

[Rottie]

dang I thought my AMD x2 4800+ whipped Core 2 Duo

 

[DrMrLordX]

Check some benchmarks, such as the Core 2 benches here on Anandtech, and you'll see how your processor fares against Core 2 Duo (not well).

X2 might be competitive overclockers again once the Rev G2 Brisbane chips are available, but those may not go past 3.6 ghz or so (and that may be a stretch). The only advantage I see to X2s right now is that the new Brisbanes run at very low temperatures, and you can get some really nice overclocker boards for under $100. That, and you can probably OC with an X2 using cheaper RAM than you can Core 2 chips (though the E4300 may change all that).

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: Rottie
dang I thought my AMD x2 4800+ whipped Core 2 Duo

You never bothered to read a C2D review? Talk about living under a rock.

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: Rottie
dang I thought my AMD x2 4800+ whipped Core 2 Duo

You never bothered to read a C2D review? Talk about living under a rock.

 

[Roguestar]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
As of now (And prolly 4ever) Intel(daddy)>>>>AMD

OMG YEH INTEL ARE TEH BEST AGAIN AMD SUXXXXX LOOOL!!!!!!!!11one

Get out unless you're going to use reason and facts to make recommendations. AMD were king of the hill for the last two years or so, Intel have finally started getting their act together. No-one knows what the future holds for either AMD or Intel, and the competition between them is great for us consumers. Take your brand loyalty and go back under your bridge.

 

[Rottie]

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: Rottie
dang I thought my AMD x2 4800+ whipped Core 2 Duo

You never bothered to read a C2D review? Talk about living under a rock.

I did read the reviews but i don't believe them I always trust my x2 4800+ is FASTEST than all

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Rottie

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: Rottie
dang I thought my AMD x2 4800+ whipped Core 2 Duo

You never bothered to read a C2D review? Talk about living under a rock.

I did read the reviews but i don't believe them I always trust my x2 4800+ is FASTEST than all

Dud, I have 6 X2's, all but one OC'ed, and my E6300's OC'ed are TWICE as fast doing F@H units. Sorry, but objectively, the X2 is great, the the C2D just walks away....

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Rottie

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: Rottie
dang I thought my AMD x2 4800+ whipped Core 2 Duo

You never bothered to read a C2D review? Talk about living under a rock.

I did read the reviews but i don't believe them I always trust my x2 4800+ is FASTEST than all

He is obviously pulling your chains...No one can be that stupid, and assume a mass conspiracy by all reviwers that are in near unamious concensus that C2D is clearly beyond the X2...

As N7 copnservatively put it...your X2 4800+ is somewhere in the middle of intels 180 and 213 dollar chips....Your 4800+ if you are lucky may OC 15-20%...Standard E6300-E6400's OC 50 to near 100%....see that thing getting smaller in the rear view mirror? It is your X2 behind the C2D's of most users in this forum.

 

[amenx]

I have a 40% OC on my e6400 (3ghz) using stock cooling @ stock volts and its the equivalent of an x6800 in benches. The ease in doing it just amazes me, and THATS what makes the C2Ds so great.

 

[harpoon84]

Originally posted by: Duvie
He is obviously pulling your chains...No one can be that stupid, and assume a mass conspiracy by all reviwers that are in near unamious concensus that C2D is clearly beyond the X2...

OcHungry...

LOL

 

[HopJokey]

Originally posted by: Cogman

Originally posted by: hyrum
Damn I'm trying to figure out what processor to go with and in my mind I can't get over the fact that the duo cores are better than a straight processor. What I mean is...I can get a duo core 1.86 and that is supposed to be better than a standalone 3.2? I am trying to piece together a system for an upcoming game that requires a 3.0Ghz processor and want to make sure I don't cripple myself 6 months down the road.

One thing that you should relieve is GHZ don't matter that much, they make a difference but they aren't everything. (long explanations will follow). anyways, Dual cores are definitely our future. As of now not a lot of apps are multi threaded (use 2 cores instead of one) so the main benefit you will see is in multitasking.

Core 2 Duo is awesome, much better then any other processor out there, single or duo. If you have the funds, buy it (or wait till February when the prices should drop).

Yes clock speed is just one part of the performance equation:

Total performance = (Instructions per clock) * (Clock speed)

or

Total performance = (performance per clock) * (Clock speed)

 

[Rottie]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: Rottie

Originally posted by: harpoon84

Originally posted by: Rottie
dang I thought my AMD x2 4800+ whipped Core 2 Duo

You never bothered to read a C2D review? Talk about living under a rock.

I did read the reviews but i don't believe them I always trust my x2 4800+ is FASTEST than all

He is obviously pulling your chains...No one can be that stupid, and assume a mass conspiracy by all reviwers that are in near unamious concensus that C2D is clearly beyond the X2...

As N7 copnservatively put it...your X2 4800+ is somewhere in the middle of intels 180 and 213 dollar chips....Your 4800+ if you are lucky may OC 15-20%...Standard E6300-E6400's OC 50 to near 100%....see that thing getting smaller in the rear view mirror? It is your X2 behind the C2D's of most users in this forum.

do you want to challenge me with PCmarks 2005?

 

[OcHungry]

I see my name is mentioned here.
Ok let me put it to you simply: All those show off's claiming stellar (=> 3.4 GHz) remind me of those self loved who buy corvette, Lamborghini or jaguar to compensate their short penis. They just drive around the block once in a while to just pumped themselves up and make them feel bigger. Why would they buy a 16 cylinders car and drive 55 is beyond me.
The point is- C2D is only a few percentage better performers in some benchmarks that aren?t really important. There is no denying that C2D is a great chip and beats AMD. But why would anyone want to OC it to 3.4 GHz when 2.7 GHz is more than enough for everything out there? Not only that, why do these people insist upon 3.4 GHz as the norm for this chip? Only a few were able to reach that speed but w/ top $$ components. Not everyone is interested in spending twice as much so to bench to show off. Those who play games know a 2.7 GHz AMD and a good vid card will do just fine without any fps penalty. Do you enjoy playing games in one hand but worry about Temp and instability on the other? It does not make sense.
Be practical and don?t be fooled by these wimps. Buy yourself a niceX2 AM2 (or C2D but don?t expect 3.4 GHz) enjoy the machine and keep your sanity. You can buy a good AM2 system reasonably priced and be ready for k8L, is what I would recommend. Don?t believe you can overclock that C2D to 3.4 GHz and know that good vid card is more important than that extra 100-300 MHz overclock.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: OcHungry
I see my name is mentioned here.
Ok let me put it to you simply: All these machos that show off their sig @ 3.4 GHz are the same characters with small penis that buys corvette, Lamborghini or jaguar. But all they do drive around the block once every other day all pumped up. This penis short of 3 inch?s big machos will buy a 16 cylinder car because it makes them feel bigger. Have you noticed the kind of pants they wear? Don?t all look alike?
The point is- C2D is only a few percentage better performers in some benchmarks that aren?t really important. Those who play games know that a 2.7 GHz AMD and a good vid card all it takes to enjoy playing games without worrying about the temp or frying the machine. These guys never run their machine @ 3.4GHZ because they are show off wimps. C2D will not survive one game @ 3.4GHZ without crashing or frying . Don?t believe it. Those who have will come here and complain about the Ram, PSU, or Motherboard causing the kill. I sure like to see how these short of 3 inch wimps play games @ 3.4 GHz. I can almost see them sweating their panties when CoreTemp shows >60c.
Be practical and don?t be fooled by these short of 3 inch wimps. Buy yourself a nice x2 AM2 setup and get ready for K8L. These phony wimps already yellowed their panties hearing K8L's killing performance.

Why haven't you been banned yet, troll?