AMD unleashes first ever commercial “5GHz” CPU, the FX-9590

[LogOver]

I guess AMD saw the temperature and power consumption on highly overclocked Haswell and felt they had to reclaim the high temperature and power consumption crowns

They don't need actually. FX-8350 held power consumption crown even without overclocking.

 

[SiliconWars]

What a joke. This will be as fast as a stock 3930K, at best.

Let's say it is, and is half the cost. Who is the joke on now?

 

[AtenRa]

Just checked some reviews, and I can actually believe in 220W TDP figures

Also no way it can be faster than even cheaper i7-3930K

You forgot one more slide,

For reference,

 

[Plimogz]

$800? what? That can't be right.

 

[dac7nco]

Let's say it is, and is half the cost. Who is the joke on now?

It's not half the cost, LOL.

 

[SiliconWars]

It's not half the cost, LOL.

You know this for a fact do you?

Considering it's OEM-only and they are recommending systems around it I wouldn't be surprised if they were actually quite cheap in comparison due to some kind of package deal with Radeons.

 

[aigomorla]

I guess AMD saw the temperature and power consumption on highly overclocked Haswell and felt they had to reclaim the high temperature and power consumption crowns

ROFLROFL!!
AMD is brilliant!

You know this for a fact do you?

Considering it's OEM-only and they are recommending systems around it I wouldn't be surprised if they were actually quite cheap in comparison due to some kind of package deal with Radeon's.

well id think it would be more sold though PCvendors then normal people picking up the cpu at newegg.
(Dell, ibuypower, HP)

i can see alienware for example try to pimp sell it saying its a 5ghz machine out of the box with watercooling for a mind gaging price to limited edition people.

If u compare it to other stock cpu's, its not a bad performer... infact its one great performer at a very ugly power package.

 

[Makaveli]

Yes, and it will use 3-4 times more power.

also this cpu's competitor is no longer Ivy its now haswell.

THAT is FUNNY! I nominate Grooveriding for best comment of the thread!

totally agree

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[SiliconWars]

No OEM is going to touch this at a price higher than the 3930K. They'll be ~$300 max or AMD has gone completely mad.

 

[dac7nco]

You know this for a fact do you?

Considering it's OEM-only and they are recommending systems around it I wouldn't be surprised if they were actually quite cheap in comparison due to some kind of package deal with Radeons.

On second thought, you're almost certainly right. AMD couldn't charge double or more for a 20% faster chip. If this is in the $200 range, it might actually be interesting.

Daimon

 

[LogOver]

You forgot one more slide,

For reference,

I don't see reference to i7-3930K on this slide.

I7-3930K is 35% faster then FX-8350 on overall. Even assuming linear performance scaling with the clock this 5GHz "thing" has no chances against much cooler i7-3930K.

 

[Makaveli]

No OEM is going to touch this at a price higher than the 3930K. They'll be ~$300 max or AMD has gone completely mad.

I can see them trying to selling these in the $300-$400 range but anything higher than that you would have be a seriously delusional or own alot of stock.

 

[SiliconWars]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7066/amd-announces-fx9590-and-fx9370-return-of-the-ghz-race

We expect them to replace the existing FX-8350 and FX-8320 eventually, but they may initially launch at a higher price depending on how AMD and their partners feel they stack up against the competition. Considering the pricing and performance offered by Intel’s Haswell i7-4770K at $350, most likely the FX-9590 will be close to the $200 mark.

 

[thepath]

From what I read FX-9590 has 4.7GHz base clock and 5GHz max turbo. When all cores are used I don't think it will go past 4.7GHz

8 core FX @4.7GHz is barely faster than than a stock i7 4770K in heavy multi-threaded benchmarks. And it is not going to win in all benchmarcks. In cinebench 11.5 for example, i7 4770 is probably going to win. I'm not even comparing it to i7 3930K. Also, single thread performance is still going to be horrible when compared to haswel or ivy bridge.

 

[guskline]

Seriously I thought I saw one site that had the 9590 at $800 and the 9370 at $400. However, IF those are the prices they will have a hard time selling those. Sell the 9590 at double the 8350 price @$400 and they will sell.

 

[SlowSpyder]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7066/amd-announces-fx9590-and-fx9370-return-of-the-ghz-race

Here is an interesting part...

The FX-8350 had a base clock of 4.0GHz with a maximum Turbo Core clock of 4.2GHz; the FX-9590 in contrast has a maximum Turbo clock of 5GHz and the FX-9370 tops out at 4.7GHz. We’ve asked AMD for details on the base clocks for the new parts, but so far have not yet received a response; we're also missing details on TDP, cache size, etc. but those will likely be the same as the FX-8350/8320 (i.e. 4x2MB L2, 8MB L3, 125W TDP).

Not official from AMD, but AT is suggesting a 125 watt TDP.

 

[SiliconWars]

Seriously I thought I saw one site that had the 9590 at $800 and the 9370 at $400.

Who would buy them at that price? Sure the OEM's can go with big "5GHz 8 Cores!1!11!" marketing but at that price? They'd be better off just using a 3930K and overclocking it to the maximum using the same cooler.

 

[LogOver]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7066/amd-announces-fx9590-and-fx9370-return-of-the-ghz-race

We expect them to replace the existing FX-8350 and FX-8320 eventually, but they may initially launch at a higher price depending on how AMD and their partners feel they stack up against the competition. Considering the pricing and performance offered by Intel’s Haswell i7-4770K at $350, most likely the FX-9590 will be close to the $200 mark.

Considering that AMD already sells FX-8350 for $200, I don't see the reason to sell highly binned (cherry picked) FX-9590 for the same price.

 

[Piroko]

That SKU screams immature, I'd never buy one but I have to giggle over the mere thought of it...

 

[thomascwhitfield]

That is completely insane

 

[cytg111]

I like it .. covering both ends, not afraid of pushing what they got, wattage be damned, and moving in on lower tdp's for mobile at the same time.

Now if we could only get Intel to release a 200 wattage haswell at 5GHz too ..

 

[lagokc]

AMD doesn't have the ability to optimize for efficiency or shrink their process nodes as much as Intel. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. As we've seen in Bobcat and Jaguar, AMD is capable of competing in performance with Intel if they do so by sacrificing thermal efficiency.

With Intel shooting for very low thermals for both Haswell and Silvermont it's possible AMD is seeing an opportunity to fill in the gaps by targeting higher thermal envelopes than competing Intel chips. So Temash won't be light enough to fit into smart phones but it will be faster in tablets than Silvermont. Similarly it's possible Steamroller could target much higher TDP than Haswell if they decide to make an 8-core version but actually end up more powerful. Margins and volumes would be smaller for AMD than Intel but they're AMD that's sort of how they operate.

 

[GreenChile]

Here is an interesting part...

The FX-8350 had a base clock of 4.0GHz with a maximum Turbo Core clock of 4.2GHz; the FX-9590 in contrast has a maximum Turbo clock of 5GHz and the FX-9370 tops out at 4.7GHz. We’ve asked AMD for details on the base clocks for the new parts, but so far have not yet received a response

It would be interesting if keeps a low base clock around 4.0 or slightly higher with large turbo band up to 5.0. I still wouldn't touch one with my 10 inch pole though.

 

[SiliconWars]

It would be interesting if keeps a low base clock around 4.0 or slightly higher with large turbo band up to 5.0. I still wouldn't touch one with my 10 inch pole though.

I think 5GHz max turbo and ~4.4 GHz fully loaded is a good bet. If they can get the turbo to 5 GHz on 2 threads it'll make a big difference in gaming performance, which to be frank is the only real weakness of the architecture.

5GHz on 2 threads isn't going to change the current 125W power draw very much if it's a better turbo with better binning and some process improvements since the last year.

 

[tential]

Let's say it is, and is half the cost. Who is the joke on now?

Me.

Because I still need an air conditioner running 24/7 to keep me cool. This system will OWN in the winter though. Lol.... I can't wait for the review though.