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AMD turns in $30 million loss

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Bout time to buy some stock...as they say buy low sell high.

IMO AMD will never beat Intel until kids/young adults like y'all grow up and make buying decisions for your corps. (assuming AMD has parity still then) Intel simply has too much brand recognition and loyalty in business world...
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I hear people saying that they won't buy anything other than Intel, because everyone else makes junk. I do inform these individuals that all the PC's running here (except my Dell laptop) use AMD. 4 PC's all on AMD chips, and they are quite stable. But hey, what do I know, right? I'm the guy who knows advanced skills and terminology; I've mastered the difference between right and left clicking. (People are often confused by this concept.)
 
Vee, AMD also has lists of bugs in their chips which have to be programmed around. This is normal with all CPU's as far as I know.
 
People, please do not buy AMD stock because you think an A64 > P4. There are many other factors you need to consider before determining if a stock is underpriced.
 
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Vee, AMD also has lists of bugs in their chips which have to be programmed around. This is normal with all CPU's as far as I know.
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Indeed.

 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: Zebo
Bout time to buy some stock...as they say buy low sell high.

IMO AMD will never beat Intel until kids/young adults like y'all grow up and make buying decisions for your corps. (assuming AMD has parity still then) Intel simply has too much brand recognition and loyalty in business world...
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I hear people saying that they won't buy anything other than Intel, because everyone else makes junk. I do inform these individuals that all the PC's running here (except my Dell laptop) use AMD. 4 PC's all on AMD chips, and they are quite stable. But hey, what do I know, right? I'm the guy who knows advanced skills and terminology; I've mastered the difference between right and left clicking. (People are often confused by this concept.)
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Turn it around on them. Tell them intel makes the junk and cite all the recalls.


meh whatever... i'm building a cluster right now at work...all AMD all VIA some 30-40 machine twice as fast as p4 and half the price... strictly number crunchers..
 
The stability arguments are complete FUD Period. Intels had to recall whole chipsets..820..aletrwood..grantsdale etc. AMD has'nt ever had to.
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amd ever make a chipset?

i still remember the days when amd was really crap. they have improved 1000%

JB
 
I doubt stability is the reason AMD made a loss, I doubt even more they made a loss because ppl think there of thier "unstability" as a reason to go Intel.

Unless you'r called Felix.........."Plays x files music"
 
My sister accually worked for AMD (well, kinda, was one of their clients in advertising) and said that they didn't really do any advertising, and she had to drop them because they never did anything. I'm sure they could have done much better if they would advertise, but as was said before, do they have the money to?
 
Originally posted by: drpootums
My sister accually worked for AMD (well, kinda, was one of their clients in advertising) and said that they didn't really do any advertising, and she had to drop them because they never did anything. I'm sure they could have done much better if they would advertise, but as was said before, do they have the money to?
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I believe it is a case of "You have to spend money to make money" IMO they simply cannot afford to continue not advertising in the mainstream media. They have done one, just one, TV spot that I am aware in their entire history. You want to sell something to Joe&Jane Public, put it on TV. They buy the most inane and useless crap because it is "As seen on TV" 😉

No offense to the Blue Men, I understand their live performances kick ass, but those commercials are the epitome of inane, yet sell millions of CPUs. The Intel jingle and various brand logos in others commercials don't hurt either. Bunny Men, ETs, all good examples of how to move your product just by doing something that makes the average couch potato remember it, at least vaguely 😛
 
Yes, if they could get some money to spend it on advertising on TV (like...*gasp* Intel) i think that the average people would look at a computer and instead of saying "eww, it has an...(pause) AMD...we want the Intel Pentium 4 processor with hyper-threading technology" might say "hey, i've heard of those, i guess they're decent..."

I dunno, i just hope they stay around for a while...
 
Originally posted by: drpootums
Yes, if they could get some money to spend it on advertising on TV (like...*gasp* Intel) i think that the average people would look at a computer and instead of saying "eww, it has an...(pause) AMD...we want the Intel Pentium 4 processor with hyper-threading technology" might say "hey, i've heard of those, i guess they're decent..."

I dunno, i just hope they stay around for a while...
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Fear not, they will be in biz for years to come barring any catastrophic misfortune/mismanagement <--ain't gonna happen while Hector runs the show.

Remember the burger wars? Wendy's made their big move with the where's the beef!?!? ads. You get one killer idea like that and you are golden 🙂 Any investment will be returned many times over.
 
Originally posted by: drpootums
Yes, if they could get some money to spend it on advertising on TV (like...*gasp* Intel) i think that the average people would look at a computer and instead of saying "eww, it has an...(pause) AMD...we want the Intel Pentium 4 processor with hyper-threading technology" might say "hey, i've heard of those, i guess they're decent..."

I dunno, i just hope they stay around for a while...
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Yes, Hyperthreading and SSE - they will enhance my Internet experience! How I don't know, but they will! TV said so!!!
 
Originally posted by: LTC8K6
If they don't advertise, they won't really compete with Intel. Period.
If no one knows they are just as good and just as stable as Intel, they won't get out of the niche. Period.

It's a good thing for AMD that Intel already has one foot in the grave with those rotten Prescott cores. 😀

Or alternately, the death of Intel has been greatly exaggerated.

Although no one in their right mind, even an AMD fan, should actually want Intel to die.
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Your on the money here, but it does seem that some AMD zealots do want Intel to die.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

 
opinion from dude at SiliconInvestor

This site used to be the happening place for discussion about tech stocks during the Go-Go days of the internet and stock market bubble... The good old days...

His thoughts on the quarter and the future.

I bought some AMD stock today but it wasn't because of this post or any post. I bought it before I read this. I really think A64 revolution will continue to gain steam and word of mouth will continue to trickle down from enthusist to average Joe. Sort of reminds me of ATI and their Radeon 9500/9600/9700/9800 success. Once Joe Blow asks for it, OEM will join and deliver. AMD just need to be ready with capacity when/if this occurs.

Intel in meantime is just buying its time until they can fix the Prescott mess with a brand new core/design.
 
Originally posted by: Naustica
opinion from dude at SiliconInvestor

This site used to be the happening place for discussion about tech stocks during the Go-Go days of the internet and stock market bubble... The good old days...

His thoughts on the quarter and the future.

I bought some AMD stock today but it wasn't because of this post or any post. I bought it before I read this. I really think A64 revolution will continue to gain steam and word of mouth will continue to trickle down from enthusist to average Joe. Sort of reminds me of ATI and their Radeon 9500/9600/9700/9800 success. Once Joe Blow asks for it, OEM will join and deliver. AMD just need to be ready with capacity when/if this occurs.

Intel in meantime is just buying its time until they can fix the Prescott mess with a brand new core/design.
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the have lost with the prescott & by the looks of it smithfield, But they'll hit AMD pretty hard with Yonah/Dual core I believe.
 
What possible reason could Dell have to want to carry AMD microprocessor based systems? Despite all that we hear reported about Intel pooching things, and how AMD has clearly assumed the mantle as the leader in innovation and performance, Intel and their number one client have prospered. Meanwhile, AMD is forced to address issue attached to a history of poor financial performance i.e. being in the red, and still attempt to continue to build and maintain the infrastructure necessary to give them the best chance to remain competitive.

All I read on tech boards is Dell sux! Intel sux! There is perhaps, no more eloquent testimony to the addage that "any publicity is good publicity" 😉 The only thing I am seeing either sucking, is more and more profits in :light: Point fingers of blame at the uninformed masses, rally against their suckiness 😛 do whatever you like in protest to these "sucky" corps, but they will just keep growing and expanding. TV controls the masses and Intel and Dell control the computer purchasing decisions being made by the viewing audience. "If you can't beat them, join them" is where AMD should be heading now; disseminate their own propaganda, and make their name a household word. Propaganda helps to wins conflicts in every form of warfare, be it military or otherwise.
 
Point one- I'm not exactly following the direction of this thread ? What does AMD losing money have to do with Intel ?


Point two - Dells don't suck and neither does Intel. That argument holds no water.

Point three- most people don't buy cpus, they buy computers. Computer manufacturers, like Dell, probably like integrated solutions like Intel cpus, Intel chipsets, Intel graphics, Intel motherboards, from the viewpoint of it being easier to get vendor support from one source. In order to go the AMD route, the manufacturer either needs to be in some of those businesses themselves, or be willing to deal with several different vendors. To do this they need some compelling reason to do so..
a. price
b. performance
c. differentation from their competitors.

I think those are the areas AMD can be succesful in, but they've got a very long way to go before they should think they can really compete one on one with Intel for equal market share across the board. That just isn't realistic.

 
"Point one- I'm not exactly following the direction of this thread ? What does AMD losing money have to do with Intel ? "


Jesus..

 
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