AMD Stopped Shipping Athlon XP 1600+

[Adul]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1028112787

Since they have already started using 0.13micron manufacturing technology in full swing in Fab30 in Dresden, AMD is planning to terminate the shipments of their slowest Athlon XP processors in the nearest future. The discontinuance program will touch upon the models with 1500+ and 1600+ performance ratings. At present these CPUs are already removed from the official company price-list and by the end of September, AMD is planning to stop the shipments completely.

According to AMD?s plans, they should replace the old 0.18micron Palomino core with a new Thoroughbred core manufactured with finer 0.13micron technology. This change will be made for all Athlon XP processors. In other words, very soon all Athlon XP processors with the performance rating below 2100+, as well as Athlon XP 2200+, will be based on Thoroughbred core. Of course, this is very good news not only for overclockers but also for the other users, as the change of the processor core implies the reduction of production costs and thus the reduction of retail prices.

However, the new Thoroughbred core will appear in not all Athlon XP CPUs. Two slowest models rated as 1500+ and 1600+ will never get it. That is why Athlon XP 1500+ and 1600+ will leave the stage as soon as the Palomino core dies out, which should happen some time in the end of this quarter or in the beginning of the next quarter. This is the reason why the slowest Athlon XP models will stop shipping very soon.

At the same time AMD will terminate the supplies of Duron 1GHz and 1.1GHz processors. They are little by little ousted from the market by slower Athlon XP CPUs. As you know, by the end of the year the Duron family should completely disappear.

 

[Athlon4all]

Not a bad thing, more speed for less price

 

[Zugzwang152]

When Duron dies, and Hammer becomes high end with Athlon XP becoming low-end, where does that leave me with my T-bird? sub-low end???? *cries*

 

[Insane3D]

Of course, this is very good news not only for overclockers but also for the other users

Don't know about that. The Tbred core is much smaller than the Tbird and Palamino cores, resulting in higher operating temps due to the smaller contact surface. Also, most Tbreds up to this point have overclocked fairly poorly, while the 1600+ (1.4ghz) XP's are regularly hitting 1.8ghz+ with little to no voltage increases. sounds like bad news for the overclockers to me....

 

[dullard]

AMD is planning to terminate the shipments of their slowest Athlon XP processors in the nearest future. The discontinuance program will touch upon the models with 1500+ and 1600+ performance ratings. At present these CPUs are already removed from the official company price-list and by the end of September, AMD is planning to stop the shipments completely.

I think this is a good move. I mean it would take a real idiot to buy a 1500+ or 1600+ for the current $65 market price when a 1700+ sells for $69 when running at default speed. Easy overclocking isn't AMD's bread and butter - so they can care less if you need to do a simple trick to overclock the 1700+ to speeds faster than an overclocked 1600+ can reach. (Prices include shipping).

Of course, this is very good news not only for overclockers

This might be true with their revision. Less core size means less heat produced - but the less surface area means it is much harder to remove the heat that is left. There is a balance between these two forces and in their first Throughbred attempt overclocking is difficult. I really think we need to wait for Barton where the surface area will be nearly doubled to see great overclockers again.

As you know, by the end of the year the Duron family should completely disappear.

I really think this is true, but why won't AMD take Duron off its roadmap? It is still clearly pointing into 2nd half of 2003 and "as market requires" it is pointing to the end of 2003. Thus I think AMD is unwilling to commit to killing off Duron this year - they probably will, but they are still keeping it as a posibility for 2003.

 

[Insane3D]

I think this is a good move. I mean it would take a real idiot to buy a 1500+ or 1600+ for the current $65 market price when a 1700+ sells for $69. (Prices include shipping).

Don't know why someone would be an "idiot" to buy a 1600+. For those of us out here that overclock, the 1600+ AGOIA is an awesome CPU. Due to the low multiplier, it requires no unlocking. A lot of people are buying them and running them @ 166mhz FSB with little or no voltage bumping. It's sort of AMD's equivalent of the 1.6A.... Guess I'm just an idiot for buying that $60 CPU and running it @ 170mhz FSB....

 

[PHiuR]

i also am running a XP1600+ @ 166 1750mhz (2100+)... with a GC68...hmph.. when i get a higher flowing fan .... + winter coming soon i will overclock it some more... right now idle 40 full load 60

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: PHiuR
i also am running a XP1600+ @ 166 1750mhz (2100+)... with a GC68...hmph.. when i get a higher flowing fan .... + winter coming soon i will overclock it some more... right now idle 40 full load 60

Well seeing that your hitting 60 C already, i think it is safe to say that you are reaching the limits of that CPU.....

Even with a new Fan, your still hitting the wall...

:frown:

 

[CrazySaint]

Don't forget that while their smaller cores making dissipating heat more difficult, the 1700, 1800, and 1900+ TBreds will also have a default vcore of only 1.5v, IIRC.

 

[Insane3D]

Originally posted by: CrazySaint
Don't forget that while their smaller cores making dissipating heat more difficult, the 1700, 1800, and 1900+ TBreds will also have a default vcore of only 1.5v, IIRC.

That's a good point, for non-overclockers and especially for the OEM's. I still see problems from people using the new Tbred core with crappy Coolermaster's and the like. The smaller core means that the CPU/HSF conact area integrity is even more important than on the "older" XP's and Tbird's. I believe AMD upgraded the the stock cooler for the 2200+ to a larger Taisol unit for this reason.

 

[mobogasm]

does anybody have any clue if these are going to be able to be modded like the .18 XP's to be MP's?? Wouldn't you think the bridges would all be the same? Just wondering.