D-Man, just curious, is the max 234 FSB (HTT) you reached with stock voltages or did you have to increase the CPU and/or RAM voltages to reach that speed. Also, if all voltages are still stock, have you tried increasing them to see if you can reach 250 FSB?
I ordered this system and am in the process of fresh installing Windows XP. However, after the partition, the format and loading the drivers, I have problems. When the computer restarts (so that it can load the rest of the windows), I get an error stating that it cannot "locate operating system." I've been building systems for about 7 years and this is the first time something like this happenend.
Could it be a bad motherboard?
At first, the computer boot up system tells me that I have a floppy disk problem (40). Then, after I disabled floppy disk, no problems. But when I try to load win xp, this failure to locate operating system started. I am running the same hd that I had running with my Athlon system. This is supposed to be an upgrade from an xp system. I am also using hyperx 3500, 2x512. I have tried repartitioning with the win xp. When the problem continued, I reformated the HD with another system running win xp. Same problem exists. HELP, please!!! I am losing sleep over this! Thanks in advance.
Douglas
Could it be a bad motherboard?
At first, the computer boot up system tells me that I have a floppy disk problem (40). Then, after I disabled floppy disk, no problems. But when I try to load win xp, this failure to locate operating system started. I am running the same hd that I had running with my Athlon system. This is supposed to be an upgrade from an xp system. I am also using hyperx 3500, 2x512. I have tried repartitioning with the win xp. When the problem continued, I reformated the HD with another system running win xp. Same problem exists. HELP, please!!! I am losing sleep over this! Thanks in advance.
Douglas
So how many people are getting what looks to be used processors? Mine has thermal compound on it. I'm a little dubious about used, since when is OEM used? Mine was delivered from Ohio (SDA3100AIP3AX).
Zero format your HDD with the free Seagate utility and reload windows. Reset the CMOS. I would also put the MB on the original carton box. Connect only the two power plugs, mouse, keyboard, HDD, and optical drive. Make sure the optical drive is set to MASTER mode. Reboot PC.
You'll see the floppy disc problem when the Floppy is set as 1st boot device and you have no floppy connected to the MB.
You'll see the floppy disc problem when the Floppy is set as 1st boot device and you have no floppy connected to the MB.
Outpost must have re-packed the returned items. All my purchases were made at Fry's. So far, no sign of re-furbished goods.
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I've gotten an OEM CPU from Fry's that had compound on it. Not an unknown practice for them, but as long as it works... likely it's from a return because of a bad board.
Couple of things to try... double check drive jumpers. Try different IDE cable and make sure it is 80 pin. Make sure you are using proper connector sequence in the IDE cable. Try with no other drive attached (that includes optical). Double check the boot sequence in BIOS and try setting the HDD as first boot device.
furballi's suggestions are also good. Some people have mentioned in this thread that their floppy drives weren't working, and after following suggestions to take the board out of the case to test it, floppy drive worked! Turns out something in the case was shorting the back of the motherboard. When troubleshooting and all else fails, always try testing the components outside the case.
Be careful with tossing around how many years of experience you have. That just makes you look sillier if the problem turns out to be simple.
Couple of things to try... double check drive jumpers. Try different IDE cable and make sure it is 80 pin. Make sure you are using proper connector sequence in the IDE cable. Try with no other drive attached (that includes optical). Double check the boot sequence in BIOS and try setting the HDD as first boot device.
furballi's suggestions are also good. Some people have mentioned in this thread that their floppy drives weren't working, and after following suggestions to take the board out of the case to test it, floppy drive worked! Turns out something in the case was shorting the back of the motherboard. When troubleshooting and all else fails, always try testing the components outside the case.
Originally posted by: Zap
I've gotten an OEM CPU from Fry's that had compound on it. Not an unknown practice for them, but as long as it works... likely it's from a return because of a bad board.
Be careful with tossing around how many years of experience you have. That just makes you look sillier if the problem turns out to be simple.
Couple of things to try... double check drive jumpers. Try different IDE cable and make sure it is 80 pin. Make sure you are using proper connector sequence in the IDE cable. Try with no other drive attached (that includes optical). Double check the boot sequence in BIOS and try setting the HDD as first boot device.
furballi's suggestions are also good. Some people have mentioned in this thread that their floppy drives weren't working, and after following suggestions to take the board out of the case to test it, floppy drive worked! Turns out something in the case was shorting the back of the motherboard. When troubleshooting and all else fails, always try testing the components outside the case.
I got the 2nd board/chip on Monday, so I got home from work, pulled the board out of the box, applied thermal grease and HSF, and tried to test the system outside of the case on the box. I got the fans to do a few revolutions like it was about to sping up, then nothing ever again. I have a 580W PSU, 128MB 8x AGP card, 1GB RAM...everything is fairly decent component-wise. I tried all of my other parts in my original board and everything was fine, so I knew it was either the board or the CPU. I swapped the board with the orinal bad board, and everything powered up--but no POST. Swapped CPUs to verify the CPUs weren't the culprit, and nope. The orignal ECS board spins everygthng up, but won't post. The 2nd board won't do a thing--it won't power up at all.
My wife called this morning and got an RMA for the 2nd board/CPU and the orignal HSF. It's all going back and I'm chalking the $20 or so in shipping fees to a bad investment. I put my original board and 2400+ cpu back in the case, hooked everything up, reinstalled XP completely and reconfigured my system.
I know many of you have nothing but good things to say, but I unfortunately have not and am giving up on it. My 2400+ works fine, and I'm usually on my laptop anyway, so I'll wait and try to upgrade again when another deal comes along, or next year with my tax refund/bonus check.
The odds of two bad MBs and CPUs are very very small. You need at least a good PSU, optical drive, RAM, and HDD to boot install windows. I'd recheck the jumpers on the optical and/or HDD (try CS or Master). Also use new IDE cables (80 wire) and zero format the HDD drive. Lastly, try a new PSU and RAM. Just because the PSU and RAM work in another rig don't mean that they are compatible with this setup.
That said, I've build several rigs with this combo. PSU...Antec, Enermax, Mad Dog/Super Flower 350 to 500 watts. RAM...Utra, Corsair, Kingston. Optical drive...LG, NEC, Memorex, Plextor. HDD...Maxtor, Seagate, WD. No problem!
That said, I've build several rigs with this combo. PSU...Antec, Enermax, Mad Dog/Super Flower 350 to 500 watts. RAM...Utra, Corsair, Kingston. Optical drive...LG, NEC, Memorex, Plextor. HDD...Maxtor, Seagate, WD. No problem!
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There is the possibility of an incompatibility, perhaps with RAM or power supply. For instance, early batches of the Antec NeoHE PSU bundled with the P150 case were known to be incompatible with certain Asus socket 939 boards, causing grief for many people who were trying to troubleshoot it thinking a part was dead when indeed everything worked fine - just not with each other.
I just pulled mine out of the box and checked it out. Sure enough, there are marks where an HSF was once mounted. Hopefully the other parts for the build will be in this weekend and I can make sure the MB and Proc work.
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Originally posted by: altonb1
Originally posted by: Zap
I've gotten an OEM CPU from Fry's that had compound on it. Not an unknown practice for them, but as long as it works... likely it's from a return because of a bad board.
Be careful with tossing around how many years of experience you have. That just makes you look sillier if the problem turns out to be simple.
Couple of things to try... double check drive jumpers. Try different IDE cable and make sure it is 80 pin. Make sure you are using proper connector sequence in the IDE cable. Try with no other drive attached (that includes optical). Double check the boot sequence in BIOS and try setting the HDD as first boot device.
furballi's suggestions are also good. Some people have mentioned in this thread that their floppy drives weren't working, and after following suggestions to take the board out of the case to test it, floppy drive worked! Turns out something in the case was shorting the back of the motherboard. When troubleshooting and all else fails, always try testing the components outside the case.
I got the 2nd board/chip on Monday, so I got home from work, pulled the board out of the box, applied thermal grease and HSF, and tried to test the system outside of the case on the box. I got the fans to do a few revolutions like it was about to sping up, then nothing ever again. I have a 580W PSU, 128MB 8x AGP card, 1GB RAM...everything is fairly decent component-wise. I tried all of my other parts in my original board and everything was fine, so I knew it was either the board or the CPU. I swapped the board with the orinal bad board, and everything powered up--but no POST. Swapped CPUs to verify the CPUs weren't the culprit, and nope. The orignal ECS board spins everygthng up, but won't post. The 2nd board won't do a thing--it won't power up at all.
My wife called this morning and got an RMA for the 2nd board/CPU and the orignal HSF. It's all going back and I'm chalking the $20 or so in shipping fees to a bad investment. I put my original board and 2400+ cpu back in the case, hooked everything up, reinstalled XP completely and reconfigured my system.
I know many of you have nothing but good things to say, but I unfortunately have not and am giving up on it. My 2400+ works fine, and I'm usually on my laptop anyway, so I'll wait and try to upgrade again when another deal comes along, or next year with my tax refund/bonus check.
You know that Outpost.com will reimburse you for the shipping back as long as you send them a copy of your receipt. Just a reminder.
Furballi and ZAP, thanks for all of your good suggestions. Let me try them and get back to you later in the week.
I understand this, and would agree, but the 1st board died during the XP install, and the 2nd will not power up at all. If I put the original board in, I get the symptons I had once the 1st board failed: everything spins, but no POST. I can't get the 2nd board to power up at all. I was looking at the 2nd board, though, and I remember when I pulled it out of the box, the static bag had small tears/indentations in it like it had been mashed into the components, or maybe the pins from the underside of the board had scraped along it. I wonder if this was a "used" board that had been returned with a previous RMA? I also was looking for any indication of a problem, and near the upper corner of the board near the processor, the round components with the wires wrapping around seemed to be awfully close to the compacitor, so maybe it shorted something. No clue.
I know a previous post said not to mention years of experience, but I've had my A+ cert since '95 and I've never had problems like this before, and I really don't think it is something I am doing.
KNOCK IT OFF! I'm about to break a rib LOL. Those "round" components are inductors. It's OK to pull them off if you have your official A+ pliers handy.
Don't forget to bring a towel.
I have no computer cert. Still manage to fool a lot of folks. Min hourly wage of $40 when working on friends and relatives' PCs.
Like I said, the odds of two bad combos in a row is probably less than a fraction of 1%. I've never seen a MB going poofs during an XP install! Common sense and experience should tell you that it's probably a PSU or RAM issue. You can probably eliminate the HDD and optical drive cause you were able to partially load WXP the first time.
Like I said, the odds of two bad combos in a row is probably less than a fraction of 1%. I've never seen a MB going poofs during an XP install! Common sense and experience should tell you that it's probably a PSU or RAM issue. You can probably eliminate the HDD and optical drive cause you were able to partially load WXP the first time.
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