~~~~~~ AMD Sempron 3100+ 64-bit Socket 754 OEM Processor ~~~~ $59

[kensplace]

just behind the conformation email:
"We're sorry to report that the merchandise listed below is not immediately available and was Backordered SKU » 902098... and will ship it automatically when it arrives at our fulfillment location. Please be aware that backorders will remain in our system for a maximum period of 30 days..."

 

[coolred]

How does this CPU compare to say a Xeon at 2.0Ghz? I am actually running dual 1.6 Xeons overclocked to 2.0. They can actually go up to 3.0 and maybe a bit more, but I was having some heat issues during the summer so I cranked them down a bit. I am just not sure I am using them to thier full potential, and the fans they use are pretty loud. I am considering replacing them, but not totally sure. I know the single sempron won't compete with the dual xeons when it comes to multithreaded apps, which I rarely come across. And I know the dual CPU's will be better with multiple apps open(something I do do quite often, but even then they are not the most demanding programs. Stuff like firefox, mp3 player, word documents, and what not)

So I am just not sure what i want to do, keep the system I got ad wait till dual core becomes a bit cheaper and more software is written for it. Or just go ahead and axe the system now and get something cheap to hold me over for another year or so.

I should also mention I work for a sister company of microcenter, so I get a discount through them. Not ecxactly sure how much though. I am guessing 5%

 

[uwannawhat]

Very nice deal.

If I pass this I know someone is gonna ask me to build them a budget system. If I buy it I can almost guarantee it'll sit unused. lol

I just finished a 939 system last week for myself.

Decisions, decisions.

 

[Johnnie]

How does this CPU compare to say a Xeon at 2.0Ghz?

Yeah... compare the Sempron to the Xeon... but never put that puny Xeon up against the Opteron!!
Little blue man run away!!

 

[coolred]

Originally posted by: Johnnie

How does this CPU compare to say a Xeon at 2.0Ghz?

Yeah... compare the Sempron to the Xeon... but never put that puny Xeon up against the Opteron!!
Little blue man run away!!

Yeah I actually originally was running dual 146 Opterons, unfortunately I had to sell them when I needed some money. I didn't get the Xeons because they were a powerhosue CPU. I got them cause I was pretty sure they could do 3.0Ghz, and dual 3 Ghz CPU's for 100 bucks is awesome.

Also I am a bit more of an AMD fan, nothing wrong with intel, I jst like the underdog, so I wouldn't mind going back to them. But not if I am gonna see a huge performance hit.

Plus with the extra cash I could go ahead and add another stick of memory. I figure I can probablly get 100 or so for the 2 Xeons plus the heatsinks and fans at least. The board is an ASUS PC-Dl, which I should be able to sellf or 100 at least if not more. So thats 200 compared with the 60 for this cpud and the 110 for the motherboard. So I would be saving 30 bucks. Oops, nevermind, forgot I would need a heatsinkf or this cpu, so actually i would be breaking even, maybe a little in my favor afte rmy discounts and if I could get any more out of my parts.

 

[tbogstad]

Damn that is a great price, i have been trying to sell ons for $75.00 used, and that was a pretty good price, considering they are over $100.00 new.

 

[manno]

Originally posted by: coolred
How does this CPU compare to say a Xeon at 2.0Ghz? I am actually running dual 1.6 Xeons overclocked to 2.0. They can actually go up to 3.0 and maybe a bit more, but I was having some heat issues during the summer so I cranked them down a bit. I am just not sure I am using them to thier full potential, and the fans they use are pretty loud. I am considering replacing them, but not totally sure. I know the single sempron won't compete with the dual xeons when it comes to multithreaded apps, which I rarely come across. And I know the dual CPU's will be better with multiple apps open(something I do do quite often, but even then they are not the most demanding programs. Stuff like firefox, mp3 player, word documents, and what not)

So I am just not sure what i want to do, keep the system I got ad wait till dual core becomes a bit cheaper and more software is written for it. Or just go ahead and axe the system now and get something cheap to hold me over for another year or so.

I should also mention I work for a sister company of microcenter, so I get a discount through them. Not ecxactly sure how much though. I am guessing 5%

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2139

theirs a good bunch of benchmarks against a P4 1.8, and that's only 10%-20% slower than the 2.0 Xeon.

I'd say with 3.0 Xeons their is no use in getting the 3100, with 2.0 Xeons, and if you're gaming with it, get the 3100.

 

[coolred]

Lowest on pricewatch is 82 bucks and the geeks. So 22 bucks cheaper here.

 

[coolred]

Is there a better board for these then the lanparty NF3 250GB? I know thats one of the best socket 754 boards for overclocking.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Nope (if you want AGP). For PCI-E, your choices are much more limited - I'd say the Abit NV8 is your best bet then. I put my money where my mouth is, I have 2x of them on order

 

[Justus]

The Microcenter website must be designed by the brother-of-the-neighbor-who-lives-next-to-my-father type of webmaster.

I've tried to buy this processor several times, using different browsers, and a couple of credit cards -- including a microcenter preferred customer visa cards.

Each time, the transaction is rejected because the card information is inaccurate. This is beyond ridiculous.

My "local" microcenter is out of stock, so the web is my only resort. Useless.

 

[coolred]

Alright, whats the heatsink/fan of choice for this thing?

 

[uwannawhat]

Well I bought one no problems.

Thanks for the heads~up TimeKeeper :beer:

 

[coolred]

This is a 64bit CPU right?

 

[Hacp]

Yes

 

[MustangSVT]

Hmm.. my local pickup was cancelled because they didnt have any.

If I order it with shipping, it will be $71.00 with tax

Now.. I wonder if I should still get it.. or if I should get a64 instead at that price.. hmmm

 

[onelove]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper
by the way....isn't 64-bit sempron goes head to head if not better than Barton CPU?

Different chip architecture. Anything Socket 754/939 will smoke Socket A.

beyond this statement about smoking Socket A, I seem to recall that the sempr0ns above a certain number (I think over +3000 or +3100 and above) have the on die memory controller & that's the real ticket to better performance. I don't think these sempr0ns are 64 bit enabled processors, but I could certainly be wrong on that (don't follow the market after I did my AMD event upgrade). In any event, from what I recall the on-die memory controller is the more important performance feature. somebody please correct me if I misstate

great price & good find OP!

EDIT:

K8 Sempron does not support x86-64 extensions.

While this may seem like a downside at first, this will actually help out AMD. The K8 Sempron, if cache size doesn't hurt performance too much...
* * *
The K8 Sempron has the normal advantages that an Athlon 64 would have (except for the x86-64 part). Sempron for Socket 754 has an on-die memory controller, and runs memory at DDR400 speeds, which greatly enhances memory intensive performance over its K7 cousin

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2139

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: MustangSVT
Hmm.. my local pickup was cancelled because they didnt have any.

If I order it with shipping, it will be $71.00 with tax

Now.. I wonder if I should still get it.. or if I should get a64 instead at that price.. hmmm

nevermind, to balance that out.. I ordered 2 -_-;

what's a good & cheap mobo to go with this? I will o/c it btw..

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: onelove

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: TimeKeeper
by the way....isn't 64-bit sempron goes head to head if not better than Barton CPU?

Different chip architecture. Anything Socket 754/939 will smoke Socket A.

beyond this statement about smoking Socket A, I seem to recall that the sempr0ns above a certain number (I think over +3000 or +3100 and above) have the on die memory controller & that's the real ticket to better performance. I don't think these sempr0ns are 64 bit enabled processors, but I could certainly be wrong on that (don't follow the market after I did my AMD event upgrade). In any event, from what I recall the on-die memory controller is the more important performance feature. somebody please correct me if I misstate

great price & good find OP!

EDIT:

K8 Sempron does not support x86-64 extensions.

While this may seem like a downside at first, this will actually help out AMD. The K8 Sempron, if cache size doesn't hurt performance too much...
* * *
The K8 Sempron has the normal advantages that an Athlon 64 would have (except for the x86-64 part). Sempron for Socket 754 has an on-die memory controller, and runs memory at DDR400 speeds, which greatly enhances memory intensive performance over its K7 cousin

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2139

ALot has changed. AMD has recently enabled X86-64 on the semprons (new ones). All 754 socket semprons have the ondie memory controllers.

 

[SKORPI0]

You saved me a trip to the Wesmont, IL store. Elston is too far.

 

[coolred]

So what motherboards are you guys pairing these with?

And how many plan to use this in your main rig?

 

[LED]

Originally posted by: coolred
So what motherboards are you guys pairing these with?

And how many plan to use this in your main rig?

Cheapest route would be The Chaintech for $29.99 AR

 

[coolred]

Yeah, it is cheap, not sure if it has enough goodies for me to use it as my main computers motherboard. I wish MC had more NF3 MB's to choose from. Oh well, I probablly don't need to be spedning any more money anyways.

 

[MustangSVT]

Originally posted by: LED

Originally posted by: coolred
So what motherboards are you guys pairing these with?

And how many plan to use this in your main rig?

Cheapest route would be The Chaintech for $29.99 AR

hmm pretty good.

Only issue is that it'll probably be hard to o/c much with that .

 

[imported_casey]

To those guys that couldn't get Micro center to take your credit cards:

I tried four or five times then changed cards and was still rejected. After going away and coming back to try again, I was still rejected for billinb address is different then bank address. I then went back and changed my address from just a capital letter at the start of my street and capitalized all the letters in my address and spelled out Avenue completely and it went right in. I guess when I applied for the card I used all capitals but I never had this problem before.. So try and get your address the same as your CC application.