AMD scores win with Microservers

[Phynaz]

AMD selling Intel processors is better for AMD than HP or Dell selling Intel processors.

This. Intel was going to get the CPU business anyway. At least AMD gets some mindshare for the SeaMicro name.

 

[holden j caufield]

what do you think amd's share of the server market is? I pass by thousands of racks at some very large colos. I've seen like 2 boxes with amd opteron

 

[Xpage]

When jaguar is released expect a big processor of some kind with many smaller Jaguar's running the threads. Until then expect AMD to sell Xeons to get PR out about how good these servers are. Eventually if SR is ever released they will be SR cores for the big show or a SR core and many Jaguar cores.

Perhaps they are redesigning SR a bit for this new market. IMHO The only way AMD will get new sever share is to get into a new market and dominate it like Nvidia has done with GPU compute

 

[holden j caufield]

they should get into the thin client market. I can definitely see a lot companies going this route.

 

[ShintaiDK]

what do you think amd's share of the server market is? I pass by thousands of racks at some very large colos. I've seen like 2 boxes with amd opteron

Its around 4%. AMD sells less than 200K server CPUs a quarter.

 

[ShintaiDK]

they should get into the thin client market. I can definitely see a lot companies going this route.

We tried thin clients in the past. It was the time of mainframes.

 

[itsmydamnation]

We tried thin clients in the past. It was the time of mainframes.

lots of people have been doing thin clients for a very long time..... what do you think citrix is. thin/zero clients are nothing new and is a large market within the enterprise space. With BYOD thin client is only accelerating because its a good starting point for DLP and cross platform operability. As the edge becomes harder to manage resources are centralising. As desktop refreshes are coming along thin client hardware is being deployed in place of a traditional desktop PC as resources centralise.

 

[ShintaiDK]

lots of people have been doing thin clients for a very long time..... what do you think citrix is. thin/zero clients are nothing new and is a large market within the enterprise space. With BYOD thin client is only accelerating because its a good starting point for DLP and cross platform operability. As the edge becomes harder to manage resources are centralising. As desktop refreshes are coming along thin client hardware is being deployed in place of a traditional desktop PC as resources centralise.

I havent seen thin clients replace any PC yet. And technologies like Citrix and other terminal services is simply a a supplement that runs from the PC in the wast majority of cases.

 

[mrmt]

Perhaps they are redesigning SR a bit for this new market. IMHO The only way AMD will get new sever share is to get into a new market and dominate it like Nvidia has done with GPU compute

Well... not really. We'll probably will see Jaguar servers, but Core operates in a different performance level of Jaguar, so they will need Core in the future, and and Steamroller, if it ever sees the light some day, will be too late to change this.

What I really want to see is whether AMD will make Avoton servers. If they do, it will denote a lot of pragmatism from the Seamicro guys, but it will be an humiliation for the guys in the CPU division.

 

[itsmydamnation]

I havent seen thin clients replace any PC yet. And technologies like Citrix and other terminal services is simply a a supplement that runs from the PC in the wast majority of cases.

I have seen/been apart of lots normally with around 90-95% replacement rate ( somethings just dont work in a VDI environment). I have written the QOS/network design/requirements for most of them. Most places are going Zero client initially so they can decouple VDI from desktop procurement and depreciation life cycles, but the ones who went to VDI early ( this is across international/national/government) are now majority thin client.

 

[holden j caufield]

I have seen a lot of places use citrix or ms terminal services but it was on a normal pc haven't seen too many that are purely thin clients. Can you tell me some things that go wrong with the VDI, I think we're close to moving towards thin clients. Also what's the power savings going to a thin client.

 

[Pilum]

Well... not really. We'll probably will see Jaguar servers, but Core operates in a different performance level of Jaguar, so they will need Core in the future, and and Steamroller, if it ever sees the light some day, will be too late to change this.

Especially as Seamicro uses the 4c Xeons, which are in step with the desktop chips; i.e. HSW this summer, 14nm BRW in 2014. It is unlikely Streamroller will be able to compete with these, if it appears as 28nm in 2014.

 

[Phynaz]

I havent seen thin clients replace any PC yet. And technologies like Citrix and other terminal services is simply a a supplement that runs from the PC in the wast majority of cases.

I'm replacing thousands of PC's with thin clients.

The enterprise desktop is dead. You're either mobile or you run a VDI.