AMD reference tablet playing torchlight 2 @ 1080

[gorobei]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Cape-Temash-Jaguar-Kabini-Tablet,21893.html

4jaguar cores and 7-series radeon graphics. turbodock similar to lenovo thinkpad helix performance boost.

torchlight2 performance in the video looks quite nice. i recently got to play with an ipad and i get the whole not a laptop heating up my thighs for a few hours attraction.

assuming the battery life is reasonable i could see myself getting something in this class.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Still looks a bit choppy, but way better than Intel in the demo.

I wonder what happens when they get into a fight with a few spawns and a couple of nests, my guess is slideshow at those settings.

 

[Tweak155]

Is this half the jaguar that is going into PS4? If so that might be concerning.

 

[NTMBK]

Is this half the jaguar that is going into PS4? If so that might be concerning.

The PS4 one has double the number of cores, but far more than double the graphics power. It may also have a clock boost.

 

[Arkadrel]

Is this half the jaguar that is going into PS4? If so that might be concerning.

The multimedia focused design features an A6 "Kabini" APU, which despite generally being found in low-power/entry level devices, appeared to flawlessly run Torchlight II in 1920 x 1080 at 25 fps in DirectX 11 mode.

The touchlight one was a Kabini APU? (might be Temash?).
So that means 9-15watts TPD (if kabini).
(and also means its 1/4 or 1/2 of the cores, the PS4 will have)


Even if its the same "core" CPU as what the PS4 might have,
its probably running at much slower speeds.

 

[Olikan]

The PS4 one has double the number of cores, but far more than double the graphics power. It may also have a clock boost.

ps4 have higher cpu clocks too...

in sumary of ps4 vs jaguar
x2.3 cpu power
x15.3 gpu power

 

[Face2Face]

Looks a little too choppy for my taste. Would the Surface Pro do a better job? I have seen video's of it running Skyrim @ 720P low settings and it's still somewhat playable.

 

[zlatan]

Temash SoC:
AMD A4-1200: Dual-Core (Jaguar) 1.0GHz APU, AMD Radeon™ HD 8180 series graphics (GCN 1.1 with 64 Radeon™ Cores at 300MHz), 3.6 watt TDP
AMD A6-1450: Quad-Core (Jaguar) 1.0GHz APU, AMD Radeon™ HD 8280 series graphics (GCN 1.1 with 128 Radeon™ Cores at 300MHz), 5.9 watt TDP

Kabini will be faster with 9-15 watt TDP.

 

[zlatan]

Looks a little too choppy for my taste. Would the Surface Pro do a better job?

The hardware should be, but the HD Graphics driver is really sucks in Torchlight 2. No wonder why AMD promote this game.

 

[futurefields]

The multimedia focused design features an A6 "Kabini" APU, which despite generally being found in low-power/entry level devices, appeared to flawlessly run Torchlight II in 1920 x 1080 at 25 fps in DirectX 11 mode.

Flawlessly @ 25 fps?

That's a bit of an oxymoron innit?

 

[Chiropteran]

Flawlessly @ 25 fps?

That's a bit of an oxymoron innit?

I agree.

 

[Ventanni]

Lol it ain't flawless, but it gets the point across. Temash has a lot more GPU power than Atom does... a lot more. I'm sure it plays fine at 720p though.

 

[Stuka87]

Yeah, leaps and bounds better than what intel offers in the ULV tablet space from a GPU standpoint. And I am better quite a bit faster from a CPU standpoint as well. Atom is faster than it used to be, but it still pretty lackluster.

 

[tviceman]

Looks a little too choppy for my taste. Would the Surface Pro do a better job? I have seen video's of it running Skyrim @ 720P low settings and it's still somewhat playable.

So still pointless in trying to actually play? Again and again I say, anyone buying an integrated solution looking to play modern AAA games to a satisfying level will be completely disappointed. I realize these are tablets we are talking about, but why would anyone want to try to play AAA games on tablets at low quality settings and low frame rates?

 

[Stuka87]

So still pointless in trying to actually play? Again and again I say, anyone buying an integrated solution looking to play modern AAA games to a satisfying level will be completely disappointed.

Yeah, gotta get used to not playing on ultra presets. Adjust the lighting down a notch, bit less/no AA, and boom, runs fine.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Not to mention touch translates about as well as controllers do, meaning poorly and unintuitively.

Looking at tablets now it's kind of like watching a kid grow, there is potential, but right now it's a money sink with little to no return on investment.

 

[Arkadrel]

Flawlessly @ 25 fps?

That's a bit of an oxymoron innit?

Not my words

They come from the author of the article, that the Thread starter linked:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Cape-Temash-Jaguar-Kabini-Tablet,21893.html

The multimedia focused design features an A6 "Kabini" APU, which despite generally being found in low-power/entry level devices, appeared to flawlessly run Torchlight II in 1920 x 1080 at 25 fps in DirectX 11 mode.

- quote from Tarun Iyer @ Tomshardware.



And yes a avg of 25 fps isnt flawless by my opinion either.

So still pointless in trying to actually play? Again and again I say, anyone buying an integrated solution looking to play modern AAA games to a satisfying level will be completely disappointed. I realize these are tablets we are talking about, but why would anyone want to try to play AAA games on tablets at low quality settings and low frame rates?

That was at 1920x1200 resolution.
Im sure that tablet could give decent frame rates (higher than 25) if you played at a lower resolution.

 

[Genx87]

Lol it ain't flawless, but it gets the point across. Temash has a lot more GPU power than Atom does... a lot more. I'm sure it plays fine at 720p though.

That is great. AMD can compete with Intel over the sub 5% of tablet sales Microsoft based tablets represent.

 

[insertcarehere]

Performance is pretty decent, the temesh SoCs should hold their own with whatever ARM has in store for 2013, but the real question is, can AMD actually get design wins with such chips? Hondo, the last "tablet chip" by AMD, was in very little, if any tablet products, lets hope these chips don't follow a similar fate.

 

[Genx87]

Performance is pretty decent, the temesh SoCs should hold their own with whatever ARM has in store for 2013, but the real question is, can AMD actually get design wins with such chips? Hondo, the last "tablet chip" by AMD, was in very little, if any tablet products, lets hope these chips don't follow a similar fate.

I think it depends on a few things.

1. Price?
2. Android design wins? I think Microsoft is a dead end if AMD wants to see growth. Their tablets cost too much to generate volume AMD needs.
3. Battery life. People are throwing around 15watts. That would make the tablet heavy and not have a desirable battery life compared to the competition. These surface tablets supposedly get 4ish hours on moderate use. My 2 year old transformer can watch a solid 8-9 hours of 720p video and stay on sleep mode for days without a charge.

Guessing by the performance expectations. I dont think this competes with ARM. It will compete with Intels mobile chips. Most likely competing for marketshare in the windows 8 ecosystem. That means very little overall market presence.

 

[Enigmoid]

Well with a 5.9 watt tdp it sure as hell better be better than a 1.8 watt atom. Looks pretty good though I can't understand anyone actually playing the game and not being frustrated because of the touchscreen.

Looks very good. For comparison the hd 4000 (i5-3570k) gets about 50 fps at 1080p maxed (no AA) on the same game.

Does anyone think that maybe they should have gone dual core at 1.8 ghz vs quad core at 1.0 ghz?

 

[Ventanni]

That is great. AMD can compete with Intel over the sub 5% of tablet sales Microsoft based tablets represent.

Sometimes you just have to create your own market. Atom's performance isn't exactly stellar, and IVB/Haswell will be too expensive for the mass market. Temash provides AMD the opportunity to fit inbetween Intel's two markets by offering good CPU performance, strong GPU performance (perfect for a content consuming environment), and a very low price.

With Temash, it may open up the 10" 1080p Windows 8 Pro market to the $399 price point. If I had a Temash in that, I'd be pretty happy.

 

[zlatan]

Well with a 5.9 watt tdp it sure as hell better be better than a 1.8 watt atom.

Technically the Atom Z2760 consumes more than 4 watt. The 1.8 watt is an SDP parameter, but they also don't indicate this anymore.http://ark.intel.com/products/70105/Intel-Atom-Processor-Z2760-1MB-Cache-1_80-GHz

 

[Arkadrel]

Gonna be pretty honest here.....

If I had a tablet, my main usage would be as a ebook reader ^^.
One of the things I dislike about ebook on pc is you cant lay with them in your bed, or take it with you on the WC, or just spraw in liveing room on a comfortable couch.

There after probably for browseing the net... and watching movies.

I dont really have a intrest in gameing on anything without a keyboard+mouse, or a controller of some sort.

That said most of these tablets you can probably use a USB port and hookup a game controller too.

 

[Meekers]

I am really interested in this form factor. I have a desktop to do my main gaming on. I just want something that can be used primarily as a tablet but with enough juice to be able to play a game at really low settings if I want.

I was initially interested in the Surface Pro but that was too expensive and has too much juice to be very useful as a tablet.