To be competitive with what? The 7870?
7950 needs to be 350 as it gets eaten alive by the 670.
This is how the pricing should be
7970 Ghz Edition - 449.99
7950 Ghz Edition - 399.99
7930 - Same clocks as old 7950 plus maybe a couple shaders knocked off to make reference 7950 owners feel better 329.99
7870 - 299.99
7850 - 249.99
Fixed and remember the 7950 has GPU compute and a 384bit bus which can have an advantage over the Nvidia lineup.. yeah I know its not a common use but still, its there. If AMD would fix crossfire issues these prices would work just fine.
RV,
The only people i ever see bring up compute is amd owners. For 99% of people they can care less. They buy a 670 because it kicks ass in a game they enjoy.
RV,
The only people i ever see bring up compute is amd owners. For 99% of people they can care less. They buy a 670 because it kicks ass in a game they enjoy.
Hypocrites on both sides. Nvidia users were touting compute with Fermi, now AMD users are doing it with GCN.
Hypocrites on both sides. Nvidia users were touting compute with Fermi, now AMD users are doing it with GCN.
Why not 7970 GHZ edition, 7950 GHZ edition, 7930.
Lower the 7870 price $50 and slot the 7930 into the $350 price.
$450-7970
$400-7950
$350-7930
$300-7870
$250-7850
$130-7770
$110-7750
AMD needs two more products to fill in that gap... But, at best, it looks like they can only make one.
Here's what I'd like to see..
$499.99 - 7970 Ghz Edition
$419.99 - 7970
$369.99 - 7950
$319.99 - 7930
$279.99 - 7870
$239.99 - 7850
$189.99 - 7790
$139.99 - 7770
$ 99.99 - 7750
Hypocrites on both sides. Nvidia users were touting compute with Fermi, now AMD users are doing it with GCN.
Good question
I guess with themselves. Nvidia has no mid-range 28nm cards.
The only Keplers cards available are geared at 3% of the market. The choice between nvidia's 40nm mid range and AMD's 28nm mid range makes the 7850 the obvious choice.
I got a 570 back from RMAing a 480. After hearing the sound of it under load, I sold that thing and bought a 7850. After overclocking it's a good deal faster and dead quiet.
No idea what nvidia plans to do for mid-range at this point. They couldn't make the GK110, so released the GK104 as their high end. Likely they are waiting until enough chips that failed as a 680 and a 670 are lying around to let them release a 660. I'm surprised they still don't have a $250-$300 Kepler card as this is where the bulk of their sales are. Buying a 570 or a 560ti over a 7850 is not a move I would make if I wanted a mid-range card.
RV,
The only people i ever see bring up compute is amd owners. For 99% of people they can care less. They buy a 670 because it kicks ass in a game they enjoy.
There are more bitcoiners out there than you thinkBut yes, I use my GTX 670 for gaming and it feels a lot smoother then my HD 7970. When I had my 7970 up for sale, I was getting crazy calls by bitcoin miners on it.
7950 needs to be 350 as it gets eaten alive by the 670.
This is how the pricing should be
7970 Ghz Edition - 449.99
7950 - 369.99
7930 - 329.99
7870 - 299.99
7850 - 249.99
Arguments of convenience. Happens every gen, great isn't it?
nvidia fan:
circa 2010-2011 : compute is IMPORTANT in all consumer level (geforce) products
2012: who needs compute?
amd fan:
circa 2010-2011 : efficiency is everything
2012: who cares?
ad infinatum.
Exactly. All I care about is performance, reliability and something that doesn't sound like a jet engine every time I put it through it's paces. Oh, and not getting ripped off... that's always nice.![]()
... I use my GTX 670 for gaming and it feels a lot smoother then my HD 7970.
RV,
The only people i ever see bring up compute is amd owners. For 99% of people they can care less. They buy a 670 because it kicks ass in a game they enjoy.
Hypocrites on both sides. Nvidia users were touting compute with Fermi, now AMD users are doing it with GCN.
