AMD processors

[tribeca600]

There are so many it's confusing to know all the differences. Could someone give me a cliffs notes version of the differences between the following and how much of a performance difference between all of them in a non-gaming but HEAVY multi-tasking environment (i.e. web browsing - 6-7 tabs open, multimedia playing, word, excel, some medium software development tools - eclipse, database, a http server - all operating simultaneously).

Ryzen 5 1600 and 1600X
Ryzen 7 1600, 1600X, 1700, 1700X

 

[Mockingbird]

Higher clocks are better in games

Higher number of cores are better in multitasking, video editing, etc.

For your use, I would recommend the Ryzen 7 1700.

 

[Bouowmx]

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 and 1600X: 6 cores
AMD Ryzen 7 1700, 1700X, and 1800X: 8 cores
All the above with SMT (2 threads per core).

Models without suffix come with lower frequency than their X-suffix counterparts but have more value: cooler is included and processor can be overclocked be just like the X models.

 

[Topweasel]

There are so many it's confusing to know all the differences. Could someone give me a cliffs notes version of the differences between the following and how much of a performance difference between all of them in a non-gaming but HEAVY multi-tasking environment (i.e. web browsing - 6-7 tabs open, multimedia playing, word, excel, some medium software development tools - eclipse, database, a http server - all operating simultaneously).

Ryzen 5 1600 and 1600X
Ryzen 7 1600, 1600X, 1700, 1700X

Its Ryzen 5 1500, 1500x, 1600, 1600x
Ryzen 7 1700, 1700x, 1800x

1500 Equals 4c8t 16MB L3, X means clocked faster
1600 Means 6c8t 16MB L3, X means clocked faster (highest clock/boost clock of all Ryzen's)
1700 Means 8c16t 16MB L3, X means clocked faster. (1700 is the lowest clocked Ryzen)
1800X means 8c16t 16MBL3. (Slightly slower boost clock than 1600x)

First question that must be answered is are you willing to overclock? Second question is budget?

If willing to overclock, and within budget. Get the 1700. More cores for productivity. Can regularly hit 3.8GHz with little trouble, doesn't seem to hit the max OC clock of 1800x very often (4.1). 3.9 Seems like a solid goal along the whole Ryzen lineup.

Tighter budget but willing to overclock. Get the 1600. 6c12t is still great for productivity and the cost is pretty good.

Do not want to overclock. Get the 1600x. 6c12t again great for productivity. But you get the added value of a good price for no effort performance.

The 1700x is a great middle ground between the 1700 and 1800x. But not a very value oriented chip compared to the 1700. The 1800x is a I need 8 cores, want them as fast as I can get them without overclocking but don't want to spend to much chip. At $500 its a good value against a 6900k ($1k) but overall its not a good value within the Ryzen lineup.

The 1500(x) are both great values when compared to the i3 and non-unlocked i5. They are i7 configurations with great pricing. But I know the impact from working with my engineers at work and it's sad all of them just have to do their work from laptops because outside memory, those can also be CPU hogs. Personally if doing that much productivity work on top of everything else. I would get the 1700 whether or not you plan on overclocking, if not go with the 1600 if willing to overclock, and finally the 1600x if not willing to overclock.

 

[tribeca600]

thanks! by "willing" to overclock.. what are the risks?

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[dave_the_nerd]

thanks! by "willing" to overclock.. what are the risks?

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If you overclock a little too much, you might experience system instability, and your components are more likely to "wear out" or spontaneously fail over time.

If you overclock a lot too much, you will quickly turn your computer into a very expensive paperweight.

Damage is not covered under warranty. So financial risk is on you.

 

[imported_jjj]

They only have 7 SKUs so far and since you care about MT perf, just take the max all cores turbo and multiply by GHz to see the perf diff.
If you OC, assume similar clocks for all and it's just about core count.
1800X 3.7GHz x 8 = 29.6
1700X 3.5GHz x 8 = 28
1700 3.2GHz x 8 = 25.6
1600X 3.7GHz x 6 = 22.2
1600 3.4GHz x 6 = 20.4
1500X 3.6GHz x 4 = 14.4
1400 3.2GHz x 4 = 12.8
Not 100% sure i remember the all cores turbo correctly for all SKUs.
If you factor in value and efficiency, the 1700 wins but for tighter budgets the 6 cores are great.

 

[amd6502]

Overclocking is mainly for gamers, since many of them care to eek out a few extra MHz. It is the practice of running a processor at higher wattage and frequency than it's standard profile. I think it's undesirable to do this for servers.

For servers, the best value seem to be the 65W processors:

1700 server ($329)
1600 budget server

Also compelling value is the higher watted 1600x ($̶3̶2̶9̶$249) which gives better sparse thread and similar multithread as the 1700, so sits in between those. 1600x is probably the best in price/perf in the lineup for gaming, and possibly best value for budget server depending on preference; it depends whether you want the lower watted 1600 default power profile (and lower cost $219) or something tuned for higher performance (@ slightly lower perf/watt).

If the above is not enough compute power (unlikely IMHO), the 95W 1700x or 1800x would be something to consider instead, as they boost to higher frequencies and have 13%-20% higher base clock.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_(microarchitecture)#Desktop_processors

 

[tribeca600]

The 1700X has promos right now so interestingly it's cheaper than the 1700 if buying with a motherboard combo.
1700X + X370-PRO = $349 + $49 ($100 discount) = $398
1700 + X370-PRO = $329 + $99 ($50 discount) = $428