AMD posts record profits again.

Mark R

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Record revenue and record profits, again. This is getting boring. :)

SUNNYVALE, CA --July 19, 2000-- AMD today reported record sales of $1,170,437,000, record operating income of $250,197,000, and record net income of $207,142,000 for the quarter ended July 2, 2000. Operating income rose by 38 percent from the immediate-prior quarter. Net income amounted to $1.21 per diluted share after a 20 percent tax rate. (On an untaxed basis, second-quarter earnings per diluted share would have been $1.51, up by 31 percent from the first quarter when the tax rate was zero.)

http://www.amd.com/news/corppr/20024.html

 

zippy

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WOW!!!

That is mighty impressive....especially considering just 16 months or so ago they were LOSING money! :D
 

Aznbruin

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Good pick Goldboyd. I picked it up when it was around 18 as well. I'm quite happy with the results, but this stock is quite finicky and erratic at times even after strong earnings and news. I'm burning to sell most of it soon. My best performer of this year is ironically RAMBUS, but oh well.
 

Bozo Galora

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From today's newspaper:

Intel closes at 143 in anticipation of 2-1 split.
Net INCOME last quarter (3 months) $3.14 Billion (up 49% from last year)
Net sales last quarter (3 months) $8.3 Billion (up 23%)

As of April -
82.1% of market for PC processors
96% of market for most lucrative processors in hi-perf PC's
 

T2T III

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AMD...First to announce and produce the 1 GHz processor in quantities.

AMD...First to announce a stock split on 7/19/2000 before Intel.

See a pattern?
 

Midnight Rambler

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WJE:

Time for a "Reality Check" ... ;)

Intel definitely announced their split before AMD, and BTW, both of them announced this a couple months ago in their annual stock proxy voting ballots. I own both, and Intel's came 2 weeks before AMD's. It is old "news" anyways. But if you want to go with the formal "announce" date to the public, then go with that, and Intel was still first as they announced it as part of their earnings report on 7/18, which last time I checked my calendar, was before AMD's announcement during their earnings report on 7/19.


The earnings speak the loudest though:

Intel: 3.1Billion $'s
AMD: 207Million $'s

It ain't even close, and if you look at AMD's margins, it only gets worse ...

Also, Dell shipped their first 1GHz P3 systems on 3/17. When did AMD's OEMs start shipping their 1GHz systems? At best a week before IIRC.
 

BenSkywalker

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I think the way in which earnings were achieved speak the loudest for both companies(all Intel investors should be aware and if they aren't should familiarize themselves). AMD is putting a dent into Intel's earnings, Intel's ASP is falling while AMD's is rising at an incredible rate.

Intel is clearly still much stronger then AMD, but momentum most definately is not with Chipzilla, Chimpzilla has that advantage at the moment.
 

Aznbruin

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Comparing AMD and INTC is comparing apples and oranges. If you took a look at intels' bank statements you would have noticed that a lot of profit was derived from interest made on investments. This is not a good sign.

Midnight Rambler:
Also, Dell shipped their first 1GHz P3 systems on 3/17. When did AMD's OEMs start shipping their 1GHz systems? At best a week before IIRC.

You have to also realize that naturally DELL will always get the shipments of Intel's high end processors. How long do you think before Gateway gets intels giga processors? I believe on CNET they said AMD had a 12:1 advantage when producing gigahertz processors.

There are many more examples of Intel doing poorly, but i don't have the time to go through them. That Rambus fiasco will also cause Intel a pretty penny. Intel will still be the bigger company, but AMD is around the corner biting Intel's toes.
 

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Intel also announced record sales for Q2. Also I beleive Intel doesn't include external profits (i.e. investments) when announcing earnings.
 

BenSkywalker

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"Also I beleive Intel doesn't include external profits (i.e. investments) when announcing earnings."

Check their earnings report. At the rate Intel is selling of its' holdings to sustain their earnings they will run dry in about a year to a year and a half depending greatly on market conditions of course.
 

Midnight Rambler

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<< I think the way in which earnings were achieved speak the loudest for both companies(all Intel investors should be aware and if they aren't should familiarize themselves) >>

This sounds like one of the worn out records being played by a few Wall Street analysts. No doubt you are referring to the portion of their earnings which came from profits from selling equities, mostly shares of Micron, and specifically, $1.5B from the Micron sell, plus another $800M generated from the sales of other equities. Weeks ago Intel gave tons of guidance to the 'Street about this, so if you are implying that they are trying to mislead people with their earnings, that won't fly for even a millisecond. Besides, there is no other way for them to report income such as this, and it must be reported. Once royalties from VIA start flowing in, they will be included in quarterly earnings too, so I'm sure the trolls will be out for that too. ;)

Anyhow, if you for one minute think this is some kind of weakness on Intel's part, you need some education on how all of the big blue chip companies operate. EVERY one of them generates some revenues from investment portfolios that the company holds. And it is a GOOD practice, esp. for shareholders. If a company like Intel has a huge amount of cash in reserves (and they do ...), it is much better to get a high ROI from equity investment, vs. collecting a measly few % from straight interest. Intel bought Micron shares at $15-20, and sold at $90+. That is at least a 400% ROI for Intel and its shareholders. Also, you should note that Intel held only 20-25M shares of Micron, while Texas Instruments had 58M shares. TI sold theirs too, and it will be in their earnings report(s) as well. MSFT, SUNW, CSCO, and many other large tech companies do the very same thing. And outside of tech, other large cap blue chips invest company cash reserves in a number of ways to maximize ROI for this cash, ex. GM, Ford, and GE all have financial divisions for this very purpose.

AMD would be doing the same thing ... IF they had the cash to do it, but it will take about 10-15 years worth of repeated successful earnings before they might be in a position to do so. AMD trolls need to take off their 'shades and look at the longterm performance of the company. If they did, they'd put their shades back on real quick, 'cause they have stunk it up for a long, long time. Having owned their stock for several years now, I am glad to see them turning around, but they are still a flea spec compared to Intel, and likely always will be (just compare market caps for starters).



<< AMD is putting a dent into Intel's earnings >>

Yet another incorrect statement.


<< Intel's ASP is falling while AMD's is rising at an incredible rate >>

I don't call a 10% increase in ASP incredible, and the reason for the increase is largely because AMD is reducing its price cutting in order to drive prices back up. You really need to read/listen to their conference call ...

But as I said before, margin is where it is at, and Intel is killing AMD here. Intel's margins hit new highs of 63-64%. AMD is nowhere even close ...