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AMD Phenom 9600 2.3GHz Quad-Core Retail Boxed...Now $69.99 w/free ship!

Decent performer, especially for the price. That said, I'd recommend folks hold out for a deal on xx50 series model w/o the TLB impacts.
 
I was thinking about getting this for my mother-in-law. The only thing she really uses her computer for is email and making DVD slideshows with her photos. She also moves her video from her camcorder to DVDs. She has been using the built in movie maker program in windows. Would this Quad help speed up the process or would a different CPU be a better choice for her needs? (would movie maker take advantage of a Quad core?)
 
Originally posted by: sprtfan
I was thinking about getting this for my mother-in-law. The only thing she really uses her computer for is email and making DVD slideshows with her photos. She also moves her video from her camcorder to DVDs. She has been using the built in movie maker program in windows. Would this Quad help speed up the process or would a different CPU be a better choice for her needs? (would movie maker take advantage of a Quad core?)
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i'd say this is complete over kill.


unless she has to transcode the video off the camcorder a lot.

I had a firewire camcorder like 5 years ago and a pentium 4 2.26 was plenty fast for even taking the video off a camcorder and turning it into wmv files.

unless your mother in laws computer is really realy old, this is probably more than she'll need if all she does is make dvds.
 
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: sprtfan
I was thinking about getting this for my mother-in-law. The only thing she really uses her computer for is email and making DVD slideshows with her photos. She also moves her video from her camcorder to DVDs. She has been using the built in movie maker program in windows. Would this Quad help speed up the process or would a different CPU be a better choice for her needs? (would movie maker take advantage of a Quad core?)
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i'd say this is complete over kill.


unless she has to transcode the video off the camcorder a lot.

I had a firewire camcorder like 5 years ago and a pentium 4 2.26 was plenty fast for even taking the video off a camcorder and turning it into wmv files.

unless your mother in laws computer is really realy old, this is probably more than she'll need if all she does is make dvds.
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I agree, an Intel E5200 would probably be a better choice for her. 🙂
 
She has a old skt A system with a 1800+ in it I think. The video is not to bad but what takes a very long time is converting her slideshow from windows movie maker into a DVD. I'm sure that is better ways for her to do it, but she wants to stick with the program that she knows. If there is no benifit with windows movie maker on a Quad, I can just get her a cheap Intel set up.
 
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Can't believe they are still shipping CPU's with the TLB bug. Why?

Nat
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they probably made a ton of them. besides they work just fine for 99% of things
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But they have SKU's that are free from it - they must still be making the darn things, that's just crazy dumb... and they said they would have it "fixed." I guess to me that meant that after such and such a date, all their offerings wouldn't have the bug.

Its hard to comprehend why we should still have to worry about picking up a non-fixed CPU now - brand new from the egg. Picking up one used, that's a different story.

Nat
 
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Can't believe they are still shipping CPU's with the TLB bug. Why?

Nat
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Thank you for mentioning the TLB bug. I hadn't heard of it before, so I googled it.
I want to support AMD, but not if they're shipping defective CPU's...
 
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Originally posted by: hans007
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Can't believe they are still shipping CPU's with the TLB bug. Why?

Nat
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they probably made a ton of them. besides they work just fine for 99% of things
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But they have SKU's that are free from it - they must still be making the darn things, that's just crazy dumb... and they said they would have it "fixed." I guess to me that meant that after such and such a date, all their offerings wouldn't have the bug.

Its hard to comprehend why we should still have to worry about picking up a non-fixed CPU now - brand new from the egg. Picking up one used, that's a different story.

Nat
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FYI They are not still making these chips. Why the heck would they be making a chip that they automatically have to discount due to an erratum?
 
Originally posted by: Eric62
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Can't believe they are still shipping CPU's with the TLB bug. Why?

Nat
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Thank you for mentioning the TLB bug. I hadn't heard of it before, so I googled it.
I want to support AMD, but not if they're shipping defective CPU's...
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They are not shipping defective chips these chips were already in the market stream before the erratum was discoveded, and for your information this erratum only affects a small minority of users, the effects of it were blown way out of proportion. I have one and have had zero errors from it despite having not enabled the fix via bios.
 
Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Originally posted by: Eric62
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Can't believe they are still shipping CPU's with the TLB bug. Why?

Nat
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Thank you for mentioning the TLB bug. I hadn't heard of it before, so I googled it.
I want to support AMD, but not if they're shipping defective CPU's...
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They are not shipping defective chips these chips were already in the market stream before the erratum was discoveded, and for your information this erratum only affects a small minority of users, the effects of it were blown way out of proportion. I have one and have had zero errors from it despite having not enabled the fix via bios.
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Well, it's a problem - especially for those of us who enjoy the VT aspects that the processor was supposed to rock for. And enabling the bios fix cripples performance.

*shrug*

 
A BIOS fix for the TLB bug came out a long time ago. I don't see it being an issue.

Intel CPUs also have bugs. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=936357

A: Although these issues are uncommon, the following Intel processors may be affected: * Mobile: Intel Core 2 Duo mobile processor. * Desktop: Intel Core 2 Duo desktop processor, Intel Core 2 Quad desktop processor, and Intel Core 2 Extreme processor. * Server: Intel Xeon processors 3000, 3200, 5100, and 5300 series.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inq...-the-core-2-cpu-errata
 
Originally posted by: waffleironhead
Originally posted by: Eric62
Thank you for mentioning the TLB bug. I hadn't heard of it before, so I googled it.
I want to support AMD, but not if they're shipping defective CPU's...
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for your information this erratum only affects a small minority of users, the effects of it were blown way out of proportion.
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Anyone remember the Pentium FDIV bug?
 
just received my 9600. My first quad, 9950 is a beauty. This will be my 2nd quad for a htpc. Could not resist the price, if you deduct $20 for the cooler which is much better than any aftermarket $20 cooler, essentially we have an "oem quad" for $65, and I was going to spend that much for a dual core.
 
Originally posted by: Eric62
Originally posted by: blckgrffn
Can't believe they are still shipping CPU's with the TLB bug. Why?

Nat
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Thank you for mentioning the TLB bug. I hadn't heard of it before, so I googled it.
I want to support AMD, but not if they're shipping defective CPU's...
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This was the last one with that bug. Any newer one (xx50 models, or the newer Phenom II any model) doesn't have it.

However, I have one of these CPUs and I have thrashed it hard with 24/7 load for many months and it never falters. TLB bug only really shows up in virtualized stuff I think anyway, so 99.8% of people won't ever see the effects of it. I haven't.
 
I've been using a 9500 chip for a while now and have never experienced the bug - bios was never updated. Honestly, people make a mole hill into a mountain some times.
 
Originally posted by: Nessism
I've been using a 9500 chip for a while now and have never experienced the bug - bios was never updated. Honestly, people make a mole hill into a mountain some times.
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It's $115 as of this post. The issue for me (and I assume others) was not so much with the bug, rather with the patch that fixes the bug and that reduces performance. For me, most operations worked fine, but image rotation was very slow.

Disabling TLB Fixes it, but, it's not obvious how to disable. I read (before I bought) that it can be disabled in the BIOS. However, XP and VISTA re-enable it by default now. I read that AMD overdrive disables it, but, it does not. You need a 3rd party utility and have to run it each time the computer wakes up. Not a huge deal, but, not intuitively obvious either. Just something to be aware of, not a 'big deal', I agree.
 
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