AMD OWNS 100% MARKET SHARE OF 64 BIT COMPUTING.

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Well its darn close. Itanium and Apple arent even remotely close.

Has anyone seen how many Itanium sold since the Opteron. :)

This it Intel's nightmare and I am not sure why no one has done a story on it.

You see everyone is comparing it to a 32 bit cpu but no one is realizing AMD is pumping out THOUSANDS of these 64 bit CPU's becasue the 32 bit performance is so spectacular.

Production is ramping up to be in the 100's of thousands before years end. Not only that AMD plans to and has the ability to stay 1-2 steps ahead of Intel throughout 2004 and into 2005.

Tack on another Million or two plus processors over the year 2004 and guess what.

YOU HAVE A MAJOR MARKET BASE IN 64 BIT COMPUTING AND AMD OWNS 100% OF IT. INTEL 0%

CAN YOU SAY CHECKMATE.

Your trolling and personal attacks on members of this forum will no longer be tolerated. Goodbye.

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This is really quite amazing because not only is AMD gaining market share in the 32 bit side from Opteron is clearly creating a massive 64 bit market share. Something that will be very difficult to impossible to overcome.

Microsoft isnt going to cut an OS for every 64 bit CPU that comes along but give them one with a multi million outlet and they will write an OS. Either that or lose it to Linux 64. Someone will write for it.

This is why there is no software for Itanium. How many customers would you have if you wrote software for Itanium. 10-20. :)

So right now you may laugh at only 100,000+ Opterons sold as only gaining only .01% in the Market share of a 32 bit world but that still makes 100,000 CPU's of an AMD only market share.

When those numbers start reaching the millions and maybe only make up 5% of the total CPU market share someone with half a brain will realize there is Million 64 bit CPU's waiting to be exploited.
 

Peter D

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You really are the Anti-steevejst...
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Acanthus

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of course... because no one has a mainstream 64-bit chip. If they didnt dominate the 64bit market theyd have some major problems. Now lets see how many 64bit CPUs are running 64bit software ;) i bet intel and ibm both are dominating ;)
 

jiffylube1024

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OH MY GOD! AMD has 100% of 64-bit CPU's out there, despite the fact that a 64-bit supporting OS isn't even out yet (the oft-delayed Windows XP 64, which doesn't improve anything btw) let alone 64-bit applications.

Intel must be quaking in their boots that thousands of AMD buyers are getting a feature none of them can use yet. Bravo!

Seriously, in 6 months, this might mean something. In 2 years, it probably will, but right now AMD's small quantity of overpriced 64-bit CPU's out there means nothing in the grand scheme of 64-bit computing.


Obviously if Intel has no 64-bit mainstream CPU to combat AMD (which will have an abundance of them in a few months) in a few years from now, when 64-bit computing will actually be required, then this is a very significant thing. However, as of now, it means absolutely zilch.
 

BD231

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Your a peice of sh*t Ticktanium2038, each post more useless and poorly researched than the last.

Never post your real picture online, if I ever see you in public I will not hesitate to hit you for being such a closedminded moron.

PS: Oh and one more thing, YOUR A PEICE OF SH*T!!!!!!
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: BD231
Your a peice of sh*t Ticktanium2038, each post more useless and poorly researched than the last.

Never post your real picture online, if I ever see you in public I will not hesitate to hit you for being such a closedminded moron.

PS: Oh and one more thing, YOUR A PEICE OF SH*T!!!!!!

Intelligent rebuttle. Forget your Ritalin this morning?

Food for thought: How long has the Itanium been out? What's it's price point? How many have intel sold? I'd say intel gave it a shot, and failed miserably, and will try again with a 64bit version of the Prescott.
 

BD231

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Originally posted by: RoninCS
Originally posted by: BD231
Your a peice of sh*t Ticktanium2038, each post more useless and poorly researched than the last.

Never post your real picture online, if I ever see you in public I will not hesitate to hit you for being such a closedminded moron.

PS: Oh and one more thing, YOUR A PEICE OF SH*T!!!!!!

Intelligent rebuttle. Forget your Ritalin this morning?

Food for thought: How long has the Itanium been out? What's it's price point? How many have intel sold? I'd say intel gave it a shot, and failed miserably, and will try again with a 64bit version of the Prescott.

Did I argue the subject?

I called this guy a peice of sh*t closeminded moron for his multiple dead end, "one side of the picture" Intel vs. AMD threads.
 

Ronin

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While I appreciate your frustration with him on the subject, what did posting that (and threatening him, idle or not) solve? Not a damn thing. He'll continue to post, because he can. Hopefully, you'll not flame, because you're the more intelligent of the two, or adult, or both.
 

BD231

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Originally posted by: RoninCS
While I appreciate your frustration with him on the subject, what did posting that (and threatening him, idle or not) solve? Not a damn thing. He'll continue to post, because he can. Hopefully, you'll not flame, because you're the more intelligent of the two, or adult, or both.

I don't "flame" and I'm not frustrated. I will slander him in every single thread he creates as I stated in the last thread he made.
 
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THIS IS WHAT YOU DONT SEEM TO BE GRASPING BECAUSE YOUR CONCENTRATING SO HARD ON LACK OF THE OS AND IT DOES NOT MATTER ONE SINGLE BIT THAT THERE IS NO WINDOWS 64 RIGHT NOW.

REALITY CHECK:
OPTERONS ARE FASTER THAN PENTIUMS AT MOST 32 BIT APPS!!!
SO THEY ARE SELLING JUST BECUASE THEY ARE FASTER AT MOST 32 BIT APPLICATIONS!!!

Let say for every 5 CPU's Intel sells AMD only sells 1 Opteron. A mere 20%. :(

Lets now say that in the next 9 Months Intel sells 5 Million CPU's. That means poor lowly AMD only sells a MILLION. 1 MILLION CPU's RUNNING 32 Bit Apps as fast as those pentium cpu's :(

So that means there are a MILLION 64 Bit CPU's out there without an OS.
A MILLION people looking for those 64 bit programs to use.

DO YOU HONESLTY BELIEVE MICROSOFT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS NOT GOING TO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE A MILLION POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS IN NEED OF A 64 BIT OS FROM MICROSOFT?

EVEN IF INTEL COULD DELIVER A 64 BIT CPU 9 MONTHS FROM TODAY IT MAY NOT SURVIVE.

I WOULD SURELY WRITE PROGRAMS FOR OPTERON BECAUSE I COULD POTENTIALLY REACH 1 MILLION PEOPLE ON DAY 1 OF ITS RELEASE. DO YOU THINK NO ONE WILL WRITE PROGRAMS FOR SUCH A BASE OF POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS?

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE INTEL TRYING COMPETE AGAINST A MARKET SHARE THAT IS ALREADY 1 MILLION STRONG?

GUESS WHAT AMD's RECENT PRICE DROP JUST REACHED A MILLION MORE PEOPLES BUDGET.

Also I never said January for Opteron 4000+ I said 1st Quarter thats means until the end of March.

SO IT DOESNT MATTER THAT THERE IS NO 64 BIT OS TODAY. IN 9 MONTHS MICROSOFT WILL SURELY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A CONSUMER BASE THAT LARGE OR SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER.

 

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RoninCS...I presume you do realize that Itanium is not a desktop chip? The enterprise market is very different than the desktop world of the Northwood/Prescott/A64. Comparing the two markets (price, market segment share, whatever...) is quite pointless.

Ticktanium2038... Where'd you come up with AMD selling a million Hammers in nine months? Since they won't be fully ramping up production until H2 '04, I'm not even sure they will be manufacturing that many, let alone selling through that many. Their Athlon XP will be their main seller for the next year or so.
I've asked before, and I'll ask again... What oriface do you pull this stuff out of???

Btw, people are growing weary of your "Try Google if you cant find it." answer to any request for proof of your bs. Don't you think it's time to put up or shut up?
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When are they going to ban him?

I have no hardware bias (I am using an AMD platform currently), and he is really starting to bug me...
 

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Hey it could happen AMD could Take hold of the 64Bit market and dominate it but Intel wont let that happen .... dont forget everyone that the only reason we are using Intel Pentium 4 Chips today and can even afford a Pentium chip is because AMD's CPU's Came along and Slaped intel in the face for insulting us with Celerons !!!! ..
Now we all have Athlon XP's or Pentium4's ......

This is yet another good thing that AMD is doing for the CPU Industry ....Intel will soon bring out a 64 Chip of there own and not because they want to for us ... because they must to compete in the 64Bit consumer market that AMD has created by releasing the Athlon64

If intel had it there way and AMD never really got too the level they are now we would all be writing threads using Celeron based systems and talking about how prentums are soo darn expensive and only the elite can buy them

I dont want too sound like a Fan boy but think about it for a second Intel are talking about how we dont need 64Bit CPU's and that they dont think its time to release them now and 2005 is a better time to bring them into the market ...... you know what i say to intel .... i say

DONT TELL ME WHAT I WANT !!!! DONT TELL ME THAT I DONT NEED 64BIT CPU's Intel is aiming at the net user who doesn?t require fast CPU's or 64Bit systems but i am not just a net user i am a gamer and if i can have a better faster chip now then why should i wait 3 years so intel make more money on there 32Bit CPU's now when i can have 64 and not slow down in those RTS games when 5000+ units are running around the screan in a massive battle ... the 32Bit CPU falls too its knees trying to prosscess this Battle.

Everyone here should all be AMD Fanboys because intel has only given us price cuts has only given us better performance and will soon give us 64Bit CPU's only Because AMD gave us these things first .. and forced intel too do the same.

AMD = A Company for the Consumer and what the Consumer wants
Intel = A Company for the money and nothing but the money!

PS: Don?t flame me. These are just 1 persons views on the matter and dont reflect any facts or truth !!!
 

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jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: videoclone

Everyone here should all be AMD Fanboys because intel has only given us price cuts has only given us better performance and will soon give us 64Bit CPU's Because AMD gave us these things first .. and forced intel too do the same.

AMD = A Company for the Consumer and what the Consumer wants
Intel = A Company for the money and nothing but the money!

PS: Don?t flame me.

AMD is not what you say they are. They are a company first and foremost, and their goal is profits and market share like everone else. The reason they have lower prices and more price cuts is because they are the market follower (or, not the "market leader"). Intel basically owned the entire market for years before AMD became a serious competitor and threat (ie: the Athlon days). So, Intel has had a massive head start, both in market share and in R&D. As the perceived market leader, they can be late to the dance with a product, and still have the support of pretty much every major company (ie Dell, etc etc).

AMD has to be incredibly agressive with prices because their products are perceived as "inferior" by big companies. That and because Intel is so bullish, they will punish companies that don't stick with them (see: Dell when they briefly tried to use AMD chips).

If Intel were to go out of business today, do you think AMD would still charge prices that give them a hair of profit on every chip, or would their prices go way up, just like Intel chips in the Pentium 1 / 2 era and before? It's competition that drives AMD to do the things what they do, they are not the "Ben and Jerry's" of the CPU world.