Amd overclocking neare 4000mhz

[Betwon]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Betwon

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Betwon

If it can run Super Pi/1M, it is still much slower than 670.

I dont think so...

OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s.

:roll: Fails to reach the 20's. Uhhh, yeah ok, you must be talking about non-overclocked. My 2640 X2 reaches 32 seconds on Superpi. You think 1400mghrtz (the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor) more on my rig won't get into the 20's. :laugh: Just for this post I am temtped to do a 2800 suicide PI run ... ehhh maybe not.

The reason SuperPi runs so well at 1M on Superpi for Intel is the extra cache, the 670 has 2megs of L2 cache. Let us race to 8M or 16M places or better yet let us run simultaneous instances on dualcores and see who wins. :smiles;

With OC to 4.0G, Fails to reach the 20's! If both without OC, Prescott 3G can kill A64 3000+(E3 or E6) easily. "1400mghrtz --the equivalent of around 3000mghrtz Intel Netburst processor" is a joke.

For K8@4.0G, it is impossible to reach 20s.

You might want to go back and examine your post for grammatical vagueness. You didn't state the AMD64's can't get below 20 seconds at 4ghrtz you stated the K8 can't get into the 20's. Observe other posters refuting the same thing I am refuting; that the AMD64 can't get below 30 seconds at any frequency.

Here is my 2835 X2 at 29 seconds

If a 3ghrtz gets 27 seconds I bet a 4ghrtz would be close to 20 seconds if not below.

You think that 20s==29s?

What a troll!

 

[Betwon]

It is impossible the performance can increase with the frequency without any loss.
So the best record of FX in the world can not reach 20s.

But 670 is 17s! Much fast than K8!

 

[Betwon]

I said
"OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s."

It should mean 20s==20 second!

I did not say 20's

You are a troll.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Betwon
I said
"OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s."

It should mean 20s==20 second!

I did not say 20's

You are a troll.

LOL. I guess the other posters who saw the same thing are also trolls. You used a plural to define a singular then said I (and others) should mind read to understand "reach to 20s" really means reach to 20 seconds or 20sec and that your non-usage of an apostrophe dictates that. You really believe "reach to 20s" is a shortened way to state reach to or below 20 seconds? Come on. I think == is humorous also. I would ask you to ask 10 people to read your sentence and see how many come up with your intepretation.

But in the interest of post going off topic I will simply state, maybe you are right and I should have read "reach to 20s" as reaching to or below 20 seconds. I also find it humorous that we are trolling each other over a point we both agree on, that Intel's cpus are faster at Superpi. I think I need another cup of coffee and I hold out my hand in peace and good silicon will.

 

[Acanthus]

Mod PM, time for him to get banned a 4th time.

 

[Betwon]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Betwon
I said
"OK.
670 is only 17 second.
If Amd(4.0G) can run Super Pi/1M, it is still slower than 20 second.

In fact, Amd fails to reach to 20s."

It should mean 20s==20 second!

I did not say 20's

You are a troll.

LOL. I guess the other posters who saw the same thing are also trolls. You used a plural to define a singular then said I (and others) should mind read to understand "reach to 20s" really means reach to 20 seconds or 20sec and that your non-usage of an apostrophe dictates that. You really believe "reach to 20s" is a shortened way to state reach to or below 20 seconds? Come on. I think == is humorous also. I would ask you to ask 10 people to read your sentence and see how many come up with your intepretation.

But in the interest of post going off topic I will simply state, maybe you are right and I should have read "reach to 20s" as reaching to or below 20 seconds. I also find it humorous that we are trolling each other over a point we both agree on, that Intel's cpus are faster at Superpi. I think I need another cup of coffee and I hold out my hand in peace and good silicon will.

Of course, my english is really poor. It maybe be easy to make others confused. For me 20s ... that mean... 20 second.
Since I knew that FX had reach 22s, why I say K8 can not go into 29s?

 

[Betwon]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Mod PM, time for him to get banned a 4th time.

Mod PM -- who?
Everyone can see that my english is poor.

If you want someone whose english is poor to be ban, you can find some "way" to do it.

This time, I think I make a mistake about how to correctly say english. I'm wrong.

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Mod PM, time for him to get banned a 4th time.

OK. I agree.

 

[IlllI]

Betwon please stop posting. you are only making it worse

 

[Markfw]

Originally posted by: rgreen83
My goodness betwon, I dont really care about the intel vs amd argument, but damn dude, you been here a whole three days and every post of yours ive seen is intel propaganda backed up by nothing but your spoutings. Im well aware there are fanboys on both sides of the fence, but geez at least try to gain some respect or credibility before jumping into the fanboy pool, it just makes you look like a mindless lemming, foolishly following others off the cliff. For the record may I state that I dont play SuperPi, therefore I may not realize how fun it is and why it is so important who runs it faster.

This is why we want you banned, not a few grammer mistakes. You've done it to me many times. Both Stevety and I own both an 820D and an X2, we make comparisons, and you say we are wrong. And who cares how fast a P4 on phase change can to superpi 1M. Who here can run those systems ? The fastest most people can OC a P4 to is ~4.4 and I think 2 people here have one at that speed. And we want performance on real applications, the things that Anandtech benchmarks, not your synthetic benches from the Inquirer.

 

[theMan]

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=287576

that will clear some things up.


why dont you just stop arguing with the guy? this thread went way OT. :disgust:

 

[Shimmishim]

Seriously guys.

Betwon is right this time.

SS to prove his point.

7.4 ghz P4 doing <18sec pi

3.7 ghz P-M doing sub 20 sec pi

3.76 ghz A64 doing +20 sec pi

3.68 ghz A64 doing 22 sec pi




I think you guys owe Betwon an apology cuz he was speaking the truth.

This once again proves this board is full of AMD fanboys... sigh...

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
Seriously guys.

Betwon is right this time.

SS to prove his point.

7.4 ghz P4 doing <18sec pi

3.7 ghz P-M doing sub 20 sec pi

3.76 ghz A64 doing +20 sec pi

3.68 ghz A64 doing 22 sec pi




I think you guys owe Betwon an apology cuz he was speaking the truth.

This once again proves this board is full of AMD fanboys... sigh...

I did not dispute his point but his way of posting made it seem like he was saying the AMD's couldn't get "to the 20s". Read that and tell me if you think it means getting down below 20 seconds or just into the 20-29 range. I agreed with him, LOL.

I have seen a 4ghrtz FX-57 but they didn't run Superpi. Judging from a 21sec 3.76 AMD64 I would imagine it would go sub 20 seconds at 4ghrtz. MMMM liquid nitrogen, LOL.

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
Seriously guys.

Betwon is right this time.

SS to prove his point.

7.4 ghz P4 doing <18sec pi

3.7 ghz P-M doing sub 20 sec pi

3.76 ghz A64 doing +20 sec pi

3.68 ghz A64 doing 22 sec pi




I think you guys owe Betwon an apology cuz he was speaking the truth.

This once again proves this board is full of AMD fanboys... sigh...

I did not dispute his point but his way of posting made it seem like he was saying the AMD's couldn't get "to the 20s". Read that and tell me if you think it means getting down below 20 seconds or just into the 20-29 range. I agreed with him, LOL.

I have seen a 4ghrtz FX-57 but they didn't run Superpi. Judging from a 21sec 3.76 AMD64 I would imagine it would go sub 20 seconds at 4ghrtz. MMMM liquid nitrogen, LOL.

shaving off 1 second in superpi is actually a challenge.

since no amd chip can run superpi 1M at 4ghz, it's impossible to say if it would or wouldn't do it under 20 seconds.

so i'd have to agree that it is impossible for an amd chip to do 1M at less than 20 seconds at 4ghz based on the fact that no AMD chip has been benchable at 4 ghz.

but based on results by hipro and opb... it might be possible??? it would be close. I think we'd see 19-20.

but per mhz, the p-m is faster than the a64 at superpi for sure.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim


3.68 ghz A64 doing 22 sec pi

WoW :shocked: BH5 running 2-2-2-5 @ 283Mhz :shocked: that must be on like 4 volts

EDIT: lol just realised it was 3.63v

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Shimmishim

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Shimmishim
Seriously guys.

Betwon is right this time.

SS to prove his point.

7.4 ghz P4 doing <18sec pi

3.7 ghz P-M doing sub 20 sec pi

3.76 ghz A64 doing +20 sec pi

3.68 ghz A64 doing 22 sec pi




I think you guys owe Betwon an apology cuz he was speaking the truth.

This once again proves this board is full of AMD fanboys... sigh...

I did not dispute his point but his way of posting made it seem like he was saying the AMD's couldn't get "to the 20s". Read that and tell me if you think it means getting down below 20 seconds or just into the 20-29 range. I agreed with him, LOL.

I have seen a 4ghrtz FX-57 but they didn't run Superpi. Judging from a 21sec 3.76 AMD64 I would imagine it would go sub 20 seconds at 4ghrtz. MMMM liquid nitrogen, LOL.

shaving off 1 second in superpi is actually a challenge.

since no amd chip can run superpi 1M at 4ghz, it's impossible to say if it would or wouldn't do it under 20 seconds.

so i'd have to agree that it is impossible for an amd chip to do 1M at less than 20 seconds at 4ghz based on the fact that no AMD chip has been benchable at 4 ghz.

but based on results by hipro and opb... it might be possible??? it would be close. I think we'd see 19-20.

but per mhz, the p-m is faster than the a64 at superpi for sure.

I agree with you completely (and Betwon) for the record I just wish my X2 didn't have one crappy core . I get 2850-2900 solid on one core (Prime95 etc. and get 2640 on the other, LOL) Oh well at least it is quiet. (Watercooled)

 

[secretanchitman]

GOD 7.4Ghz intel P4...oh man that OC must beat the hell out of any other P4...

i want THAT cooling system from christmas...it'll do wonders for my P4 2.4C.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman
GOD 7.4Ghz intel P4...oh man that OC must beat the hell out of any other P4...

i want THAT cooling system from christmas...it'll do wonders for my P4 2.4C.

I believe that was a P4 OC world record, if im not mistaken, and that?s quite a result to be Super PI 1M stable as well. So that would certainly beat any other P4.

 

[DarkKnight69]

Here is a FX-57 at 3.6 ghz running a 22.766. At 4 ghz it would run <20s methinks.

http://www.devhardware.com/forums/showpost.php?p=478806&postcount=195

But still wont beat out Intel for the title!!!

 

[chinkgai]

i get 26 sec @ 3 ghz

 

[nealh]

I am no fanboy..I want Intel to produce great chips ..more options better prices

Anyway..how can you compare a P4 at twice the speed of an MAD chips seems stupid and apples to oranges

 

[potato28]

BACK ON TOPIC: The AMD chips are coming near 4GHz, but the FX57 has a cold bug. It doesnt like temps under -155C I think, so that limits the extreme cooling to a Dry Ice operation, or a dual cascade operation. Xremesystems always have OCing contests mgoing on in the forums. Check it out some time...

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: DarkKnight69
Here is a FX-57 at 3.6 ghz running a 22.766. At 4 ghz it would run <20s methinks.

http://www.devhardware.com/forums/showpost.php?p=478806&postcount=195

But still wont beat out Intel for the title!!!

No it won't, just do the ratios. It comes out to 20.4894s assuming performance increases exactly with the clock speed. Of course, if you increase memory speed and thus lower memory latency, that may allow you to do better than the 20.4894, but DDR memory is probably already maxed out at 3.6ghz.