AMD Out sells Intel

Markfw

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Yup. When Intel has nothing to offer, it has to happen sometime.
 

coldpower27

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First time? I remember reading AMD outsell in retail for the US, sometime in 2004 period I think it was the 2nd Quarter somewhere there, maybe not for the whole month I suppose.

Not a bad achievement I suppose.

But remember this is sub section of an overall market, and were only talking about U.S.
 

Furen

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As coldpower says, this is a subsection of the US market. I'd be more interested to get info on how this affected AMD's market share.
 

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Momentum is important too. I was a dyed-in-the-wool Intel guy, then I went into Compusa last May to look at laptops for my wife's birthday (I look at em there, but I don't buy them there). Probably half the machines had Athlon 64 logos, enough to get my attention.
 

kitkat22

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Actually, this might be intel trying to hurt AMD's case. Of course, that is pure speculation, but it is an interesting thought.

 

Topweasel

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Anyone who actually thinks that the case is about proving Intel is a Monopoly is an idiot, It forces all partys to play nive till the case is over. All OEMs have to pick up an almost afirmative action like amount of AMD CPUs to prove that they aren't conspiring with Intel. Companies that want to shift away from Intel can do so with little reprocusions. Intel thems selves will have to watch how they hand out rebates and can't be as vindictive against companies that disagree with them. The hope for AMD is that FAB 36 and their current performance lead will allow them to shift the market towards their favor and by the time the case is thrown out or settled AMD will be sitting at 30-40% and will be hard to convince a company that they have to go Intel because AMD then would be able to support a whole company even one like Dell.

This is just one example but to beat Intel, AMD only need to sell 51% of the market not the 82% vs. 18% that has been going on for years. The best part is Intel already has more production capabilities then CPUs to sell, so even a 5% shift means hundreds maybe thousands of jobs and millions of dollars that are no longer needed and cuts into their profits. Meaning each lost % means an exponential loss of net profit from each CPU they do sell. This is huge even if its just a potion of a of portion of the whole Pie. Then when you consider they own a huge and seemling insurmountable portion of the DIY market it gets even better.
 

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Originally posted by: StrangerGuy
"In retail systems over a period of a month'

Dell doesn't count eh?


ow lol nvm then :)

But I have seen alot of AMD at stores like Comusa, circuit city, etc. They also go for nice prices, and the AMD sempron/turion on paper looks very competative with the Pentium m. Average joe 6 pack will wonder why he can get a 2 GHZ AMD tuion notebook for the same price as a 1.73 GHZ intel pentium M notebook, and then buy the turion notebook :).
 

DeathReborn

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Originally posted by: StrangerGuy
"In retail systems over a period of a month'

Dell doesn't count eh?

Perhaps that's because this is PC's sold on the high street not online or via telephone. Which makes me wonder how many people know what they're buying or if they just go by price and that's it. As I (and most other people here probably do too) was of the opinion that the average, generic shopper on a high street won't know their Intel from their AMD, maybe we were wrong...
 

Pr0d1gy

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: StrangerGuy
"In retail systems over a period of a month'

Dell doesn't count eh?


ow lol nvm then :)

But I have seen alot of AMD at stores like Comusa, circuit city, etc. They also go for nice prices, and the AMD sempron/turion on paper looks very competative with the Pentium m. Average joe 6 pack will wonder why he can get a 2 GHZ AMD tuion notebook for the same price as a 1.73 GHZ intel pentium M notebook, and then buy the turion notebook :).


Especially when Joe is briefed on the benefits of 64 nit architecture.
 

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Originally posted by: Topweasel
All OEMs have to pick up an almost afirmative action like amount of AMD CPUs to prove that they aren't conspiring with Intel.

Hey, I like AMDs as much as anyone else (I run 3 at home) but this statement is flat-out wrong. Dell and Sony are both 100% Intel OEMs. Its never been proven or "officially revealed" but the conventional wisdom is that Intel gives them preferential pricing in return for staying 100% Intel.
 

theMan

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Originally posted by: kb3edk
Originally posted by: Topweasel
All OEMs have to pick up an almost afirmative action like amount of AMD CPUs to prove that they aren't conspiring with Intel.

Hey, I like AMDs as much as anyone else (I run 3 at home) but this statement is flat-out wrong. Dell and Sony are both 100% Intel OEMs. Its never been proven or "officially revealed" but the conventional wisdom is that Intel gives them preferential pricing in return for staying 100% Intel.

agreed
 

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Originally posted by: Topweasel
The best part is Intel already has more production capabilities then CPUs to sell, so even a 5% shift means hundreds maybe thousands of jobs and millions of dollars that are no longer needed and cuts into their profits. Meaning each lost % means an exponential loss of net profit from each CPU they do sell. This is huge even if its just a potion of a of portion of the whole Pie. Then when you consider they own a huge and seemling insurmountable portion of the DIY market it gets even better.
Where did you get that info?