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redbone75

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You can get an OEM Pentium D 820 from eWiz.com for only 160. Pair that with a decent aftermarket HSF and you're still cheaper than the 3700+. If price is your main concern then I'd recommend that, as far as the processor is concerned anyway; however, if your budget is really tight then I'd go with the 3700. With that you can find a nice 939 board that supports AGP (there aren't many) and you can keep your current card. Only problem is that you're currently running a P4 1.8, so I'm guessing you're probably using DDR 333 at the most, but likely DDR 266, so you'd have to get better RAM if you go with the 3700. If you want to build a nice little budget dual core system, go with the Pentium D 820, or maybe even a Pentium D 805 if you want to save a little extra dough. You've been this long with a P4 1.8, so you'll still notice a monstrous increase in performance with either processor. Only problem is that you'll have to get a PCI-E vid card, b/c AFAIK none of the Pentium D chipsets that support AGP are worth even glancing at. As far as having to buy DDR2 ram, there is a bit of a premium over DDR 400, about $20 for comparable value ram, which, unless you plan on doing some serious overclocking, is what I'd recommend you get.
 

1ceHacka

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See one of my previous posts with the CPU-Z screenshot...I am running PC800 at 400GHz at the moment. I have found a slightly used 820 with an ASUS premium mobo...all for 230...so that is what I am going to do...that leaves me with about 300 for a video card, memory, and a new psu.
 

Maxspeed996

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that's not a bad buy for what you are wanting to do....(I'm preparing to get flamed here) but that is definately better than what you've been using , and the LGA775 socket board will allow you to upgrade in the future if you wish. Although the AMD's that are AVAILABLE now are faster for gaming , they are changing socket types every 6-7 months it seems like. The 775 socket board will give you processor upgrade options , and probably RAM upgrade options in the future. ASUS has good tech support and downloads available on their website , so I think you'll be happy with your purchase.
 

Bobthelost

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Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
(I'm preparing to get flamed here) but that is definately better than what you've been using , and the LGA775 socket board will allow you to upgrade in the future if you wish. Although the AMD's that are AVAILABLE now are faster for gaming , they are changing socket types every 6-7 months it seems like.

Bollocks, for that last bit you deserve every bit of flaming you get. Intel changes CPU socket every six months, and guess what, when conroe popus up in 6 your current Motherboard will be, you guessed it, a dead end.

Basing any sort of purchase on the socket type is bloody stupid, the only advantage is that Intel already use DDR2, which you could reuse instead of buying faster DDR2 when you do upgrade next.
 

redbone75

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You'll be able to get the things you need for about that much. Make sure you get the right PSU, one that the main line has a 24pin connector. You can get some good value ram for about 90. As far as the vid card, still one of the best bang-for-the-buck cards available is the 6600gt IMO, which you can find for around 120, maybe a little less. If you find a good PSU and memory and have a bit of money for it, go for a 6800gs, which is stellar and won't break you.
 

Maxspeed996

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Intel hasn't changed socket types every 6-7 months! Are you crazy? The LGA775 socket has been here for a minute , and they will continue to use it for the forseeable future...cmon man , don't flame me for something like that..
What did Intel have last year? LGA775
What did AMD have last year? 754 , 939 , 940 was out too wasn't it....
so all of you with your beast computers , need a new board again when the next processor comes out right? I mean , tell me if I'm wrong there.
Bottom line , for the poster....Good buy for your money , definately better than your older machine , I still think that you will really like it. In the future , depending on what type's of chip your board will handle , you've got some upgrade options too. Have fun with it.
 

NuroMancer

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Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
Intel hasn't changed socket types every 6-7 months! Are you crazy? The LGA775 socket has been here for a minute , and they will continue to use it for the forseeable future...cmon man , don't flame me for something like that..
What did Intel have last year? LGA775
What did AMD have last year? 754 , 939 , 940 was out too wasn't it....
so all of you with your beast computers , need a new board again when the next processor comes out right? I mean , tell me if I'm wrong there.
Bottom line , for the poster....Good buy for your money , definately better than your older machine , I still think that you will really like it. In the future , depending on what type's of chip your board will handle , you've got some upgrade options too. Have fun with it.

First 754 was used for semprons. Like those intel procs called Celerons....
940 was used for Optys designed for server use.... Intel calls them Itanium? (or whatever)
939 was the A64 (P4 competitor for a LONG time)

So no, he can flame you. AND he is right, as soon as conroe comes out in force, the 775 arch will die....
 

1ceHacka

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Bottom line for me is that the dual core will, on average, beat the single core amd. Yes the amd may game better in some games...but who cares if i get 100 fps or 130fps??? both are good frame rates.
 

Maxspeed996

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Either way , 775 socket boards fit the Celerons , the and the P4's (Dual core in both types) of course the chipset on the board limited what KIND of chip you could install.

So do you think that the Conroe is going to be a new socket type? I've heard that it will utilize the 775 socket....could be a rumor...but i've also heard that Intel plans to stick with the 775 socket for a while , that the interface is good. If that's the case that will be great for those with 775 chips that want a newer board with more options...
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: rod
Just remember, with the 3800+ you can use your existing DDR RAM, but the Pentium will require you to buy new DDR2 ram.

RoD

There are LGA775 boards that support DDR memory. However, DDR2 memory is falling back down in price.
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: 1ceHacka
See one of my previous posts with the CPU-Z screenshot...I am running PC800 at 400GHz at the moment. I have found a slightly used 820 with an ASUS premium mobo...all for 230...so that is what I am going to do...that leaves me with about 300 for a video card, memory, and a new psu.

Your PC800 memory is RDRAM, is it not? Very different than DDR and DDR2 memory.
 

F1shF4t

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Originally posted by: Maxspeed996
Intel hasn't changed socket types every 6-7 months! Are you crazy? The LGA775 socket has been here for a minute , and they will continue to use it for the forseeable future...cmon man , don't flame me for something like that..
What did Intel have last year? LGA775
What did AMD have last year? 754 , 939 , 940 was out too wasn't it....
so all of you with your beast computers , need a new board again when the next processor comes out right? I mean , tell me if I'm wrong there.
Bottom line , for the poster....Good buy for your money , definately better than your older machine , I still think that you will really like it. In the future , depending on what type's of chip your board will handle , you've got some upgrade options too. Have fun with it.


Intel has socket 478 for mobiles, 775 desctops and what ever its called for servers.
Gues what amd as uses 754 and 939 for both desctops and mobile, and 940 is a server socket.

And with socket 775 what the use of not changing sockets when u still have to buy a new board to use newer cpu's. I mean good luck in trying to get dual cores working in a board with 915 chipset, same socket but does not work together.
On the other hand almost all socket 939 boards have been compatible with every 939 amd cpu ever released. I just recently set up a x2 dually on a asus a8v, which i think was one of the firsts boards ever released for socket 939.