Originally posted by: hooflung
Originally posted by: taltamir
so you will pay more money, to get less performance, under the assumption that MAYBE a new, faster, easily upgradeable, compatible process will arrive? and work at max speed on your older platform?
You judge the phenom based on its bug and first generation silicon. You don't know whats coming down the road do you? And you know Intel is going to an integrated memory controller later this year. If you pay for the top of the line Intel right now, or even a midrange both memory, motherboard AND cpu are going to be second class citizens.
So yes, If I wanted to buy top quality gear I probably would go with an AM2+ motherboard and Crossfire X. Because I know that the phenom can a) only get better and b) has more life than a C2D in the next 6 quarters.
Motherboards are not THAT Expensive... get more bang for your buck on the CPU, and use the saved bucks to replace the mobo as well when you upgrade in X months.
Or purchase an alternative, not have to worry about not hitting 3+ ghz today because its really not neccessary unless you do encoding or distrubuted computing and don't put FUD saying you do because you fucking don't. Its all epeen past 3ghz on the C2D for 95% of the computer users who don't tweak at the first sign of an imperial star destroyer coming to market.
Also that platform statement is ludicrious. There is no benefit to it aside from overclocking capability, which current sucks due to the chip themslves...
Yep. Crossfire X makes no difference at all. None what so ever. The tidbit that AM3 cpu's will work in AM2+ sockets just like AM2+ cpu's work in AM2 sockets mean nothing either. So when the phenom starts hitting 3ghz and beyond and work in AM2 boards bought 2 years ago, that means nothing either. Nope... we shouldn't care about upgrading our motherboards and be content to reinstall our XP and Vista setups because we want cutting edge Intel... right?
The intel and nvidia motherboards are full capable of taking an AMD video card or an nvidia one... intel's even can have crossfire! you can get an intel Xfire board and put two 3870x2 in it for a quadfire solution... how is the AMD more "platformy" except for having all the parts bought from the same company, despite some being inferior?
The P975X has 2 8x, the P35 only has 1 x16 lane and 1x 4 lane. The X38/X48 are the only true Crossfire boards on the market by intel. Now lets talk about Quad Xfire on the old Crossfire boards. Not really an option. You'll run out of bus width pushing anything you'd need 2 HD3870X2s for. The X38s are your only option for that. Yet on the AMD790FX you can have 4 x8 lanes or 2 x16 lanes available to you.
Now I am not dissing Intel. I own a C2D rig and I love it, and overclock the piss out of it. But your frothing at the mouth rambling like a fanboi of epic proportions. You have no logic behind you, only for-the-moment stats that the phenom is not a major threat and the .45 C2Ds OC like crazy. You don't have any insider knowledge or proof that the Phenom isn't going to do the same. You cannot say that Intel isn't going to abandon the current platform. They are, garanteed because they are going to Integrated memory controllers.
AMD is already there and they have already shown they are comitted to shrinking die sizes and revising their parts to compete. Look at the once laughed at HD series. Its now in a profitable product. Right now there is no need for anyone to get past 3ghz C2D performance from any PC no matter what platform you use if all you do is game. Crysis doesn't all of a sudden become a runnable program because you clocked up to 4.5ghz. Your a fucking liar if you do. It only becomes relevant with apps that tax your floating points like media encoding and distributed computing. Rattling off Intel Overclocking numbers and discount everyone else's situation, perceptions and other competing products then your not a very good source for unbiased opinion and speculation.
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