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AMD Opteron at Newegg

Don't be talkin, it beats the Xeon 2.8 in many benchmarks. Link Even without 64bit software, the architecture is far superior to the Xeons and p4s.
 
Too lazy to look, did they have a motherboard to go with it? The first two I checked looked like they were 32bit CPU boards, or is the opteron pin compatible with Tbird (which doesn't make sense to me).

[edit]Toms Hardware has a review. The Opteron is a new socket, there's the Athlon 64 version and MP Server version. [/edit]
 
Originally posted by: damonpip
Don't be talkin, it beats the Xeon 2.8 in many benchmarks. Link Even without 64bit software, the architecture is far superior to the Xeons and p4s.
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I'd still take the Xeons over these since they are proven in the server enviornment. It's going to take a long time before companies step up to the plate and buy these (it is what they were designed for).
 
Hmm, Anand doesn't have a review up yet (seems to be a bunch popping up today).

1. Thx for the heads up

2. Does anyone have any real opinions on this chip? AMD wants it to sort of be a bridge from 32 to 64 bit, and that's fine. It's certainly more reasonably priced than the Itanium. I think most folks here want to know whether this is a good buy for them tho. How does it do in games, straight up winders apps, so on. The average user is not running a server (at least nothing that is going to require this type of chip). Is it worth the investment (right now you'd be looking at a dualie setup to get this chip over, say, (my currest "wish") a p4 3.0g w/HT and 875p or 865 board for the types of scenarios most of us would see? My guess is that it's not...the reviews I see compare it to Xeon and Itanium. I don't know anyone with either (well actually they have some xeon servers at work, but that's beside the point)
 
That's all fine and dandy, but where do you get motherboards, and heatsinks for these? SuSE Linux has an opteron based kernal for it already for 64-bit mode, and it won't be until Octobre or so before windowsXP-64 comes out.
 
Well,I sp oke too early in my previous post. In the server market, its a great chance for AMD. Until we see advantages in the mainstream and high end market, there may be no use for 64bit.
 
Nforce3 is announced and Asus are said to be manufactured the board to utilized the nforce3 for the Opteron.
Probably they will have that on sale by the end of next month
 
My understanding is that for a while there won't be any motheboards available for these that support AGP - they are targeted at the server market.

Toms Hardware has a review up on them. Interesting product and super powerful for what it's running at and what it costs. Not so good for gaming, though, but if this beast has the headroom for clockspeed increases, AMD well could have another winner on their hands.

Good for AMD - keep the pressure on Intel, and hopefully this helps them get out of the red. I would have liked to have seen the chip priced a little higher myself. Since it's competing in the server space, the chips can be priced a more than what is acceptable in the desktop space, not to mention that some admins may avoid these, citing the old 'it doesn't cost much, so it must not be reliable' argument (which is perfectly valid when you are working with 24x7 systems).
 
Originally posted by: jetpeach
I'll second the question about where to get a mobo and heatsink for these puppies... I'm curious Thanks!
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The link that damonpip provided also lists a RETAIL Opteron for $20 more - this is your answer regarding heatsinks.
 
Originally posted by: gunblade
Nforce3 is announced and Asus are said to be manufactured the board to utilized the nforce3 for the Opteron.
Probably they will have that on sale by the end of next month
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Evan Lieb, the mobo reviewer at AT, said that AnandTech wont get a nForce3 board for another 7 weeks.
 
Check anandtech tomorrow for a review of what Opteron can do on the desktop. But no, in all likelihood you're not going to be interested in using it for gaming.
 
Different types of architectures are going to yield different speeds. Its not about what the GHz is at because it isnt very likely these will reach 3 GHz anytime in the near or not so near future. Plus we all know how the CPU market works, nothing is going to be outperforming anything else by a landslide anytime soon. They like to keep things competative.
 
Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
1.8 Ghz keeping up with a 3 Ghz cpu is impressive!
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Actually, with a properly designed system, 1.8Ghz pushing 64 bits should outdo 3 Ghz pushing 32 bits by 20% ( (1.8*64)/(3*32) ). But I realize that's a "math thingy" many of you might not understand.
 
Originally posted by: Jion
Different types of architectures are going to yield different speeds. Its not about what the GHz is at because it isnt very likely these will reach 3 GHz anytime in the near or not so near future. Plus we all know how the CPU market works, nothing is going to be outperforming anything else by a landslide anytime soon. They like to keep things competative.
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Actually this CPU outperforms the Xeon 2.8 GHz by nearly %15 at the same 32 bit architecture and is on par or better than the 3GHz CPU at the same bit architecture. No telling how much dust the Xeon will be eating at 64 bit. And as for the ?if it aint expensive then it aint as good? mentality of some System Admins, If that?s the case I would love to sell them an old Pentium II duel server board with two 400 MHz CPUs for a reasonable $2500? LOL? Never trust anyone with your money if this is how they do a performance comparison.
 
Originally posted by: cyberia
Originally posted by: jetpeach
I'll second the question about where to get a mobo and heatsink for these puppies... I'm curious Thanks!
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The link that damonpip provided also lists a RETAIL Opteron for $20 more - this is your answer regarding heatsinks.
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figures, the retail wasn't shown before when I asked where to get heatsinks for them :light:
 
Originally posted by: kof
Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
1.8 Ghz keeping up with a 3 Ghz cpu is impressive!
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Actually, with a properly designed system, 1.8Ghz pushing 64 bits should outdo 3 Ghz pushing 32 bits by 20% ( (1.8*64)/(3*32) ). But I realize that's a "math thingy" many of you might not understand.
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Yeah, a "math thingy". I guess you aren't too good with these "computer thingies" like "processor designies", because what you typed made no sense.
 
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