AMD Opteron 248 vs. Intel Xeon 2.8

[GTaudiophile]

On the front page.

 

[Markfw]

What a knockout ! The Xeon systems didn't stand a chance. I hope AMD can make some money with these for a change, they deserve a break.

 

[Sideswipe001]

I agree.

Talk about a beatdown.

 

[Acanthus]

Very impressive.

 

[nick1985]

OWNED.

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
What a knockout ! The Xeon systems didn't stand a chance. I hope AMD can make some money with these for a change, they deserve a break.

Uberfied

 

[Sunner]

Too bad HP don't make any Opteron boxes, but I guess they feel it would be confusing seeing as they already have PA-RISC, Alpha, and IA-64, not to mention it would compete with their Integrity servers.
Maybe IBM...but then, again maybe they're worried it would compete with their POWER offerings.

Oh well, impressive in any case.

 

[Sid59]

wow. that wasn't as close as i thought it would be.

 

[Sideswipe001]

The question remains, will anyone make them? It's almost like AMD is going to have to make servers and market them, themselves.

 

[sandorski]

ouch

 

[txxxx]

Ouch, although Intel wont care as people still dont have much trust in AMD equipment in general. AMD really need to rack up on marketing!

 

[Schadenfroh]

w00t

 

[ravedave]

meh, small slice of the action. the article at aceshardware.com was much better. Thats the one I'm going to use to convince our IT staff.

 

[Adul]

Any notice anand is engaged

 

[drag]

Originally posted by: Sunner
Too bad HP don't make any Opteron boxes, but I guess they feel it would be confusing seeing as they already have PA-RISC, Alpha, and IA-64, not to mention it would compete with their Integrity servers.
Maybe IBM...but then, again maybe they're worried it would compete with their POWER offerings.

Oh well, impressive in any case.

I doubt IBM would of lent it's technology to AMD in the first place to make the Opterons if they thought they would be compitition with the power series. They aren't even in the same league....

(SOI used by AMD is from IBM's Power stuff, for instance)

And the Power970's are powerPC platform and are designed specificly for SMP work in lower-power (as in electrical power) and relatively low-temp blade servers were you'll have dozens of blade servers with 2 and 4 way proccessors on a single rack. (which is why single cpu G5 sucks and dual cpu G5 rocks)

Power4/5's are for large scale multiproccessor systems and mainframes. 8, 16, 32-way and above.

Opterons are for low/medium end servers/workstations and the AMD64 stuff is for commodity PC hardware, with the FX stuff thrown in for those that like to spend way to much on a PC. (just kidding.)

Anyways IBM sells plenty of Opteron-based workstations and servers.

It's not nearly as big as a deal as it seems to run different platforms. After all Linux runs on all of them and that's what IBM has been backing lately. You just choose which is best for the job. Power970, Power4, AMD-64/Opteron, all designed for different purposes (and it's funny to see how much IBM/AMD has put intel on the run.). As long as they beat out Intel everybody else (business-wise) wins.

 

[Sunner]

Yeah, but the only Opteron server IBM sells is the x335(I think I got the number right) which is aimed at HPC, rather than traditional server roles, they don't have any AMD64 servers that compete with the Xeon's really, which is what Im missing.

But you're right, they wouldn't compete too much with POWER, maybe in the POWER low end/AMD high end, but then, IBM usually lets their different departments compete with each other quite a bit.

Still, in the end, there are no Opteron servers in sight from them.

 

[drag]

Here's the eServer 325

Is this what your talking about? I would love to have a couple of those 1350 clusters from the bottom of the page.


Ya well if IBM isn't selling any servers that fit your bill, then I figure no loss. IBM stuff is overpriced anyways, I don't think most people need the level of support that they offer. (although it would be nice)

Anyways there are plenty of small businesses putting together Opteron servers that would be nice to have. Check out any linuxworld or similar trade magazines and you can find all sorts of stuff in the ads. (edit: most will install windows, too. if that's what you need)

 

[Sunner]

Yep that's the one.
Well, I was only off by 10, not too bad

As for smaller companies, I'd love to get some, but for work, Im bound by what HPaq offers, or in case we feel the need to switch, one of the other tier-one's.
No Appro, Newisys, etc for me

 

[drag]

Bah, and HP is pushing IA-64, what a pain.


Maybe Sun then?