AMD Ontario performance numbers leaked

[IntelUser2000]

FWIW, the i5-520UM can Turbo to 1.60GHz with 2 core. With the IPC and hyperthreading the advantage can reach 50%(http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/143?vs=97). Though yea that bench is exaggerating the difference.

i3-330UM is at 1.2GHz with no Turbo. With the "U" versions there's a substantial advantage for the i5's vs i3's.

 

[Soleron]

This performance for Ontario is, then, in line with what Dirk said at the earnings call: it would have the performance of today's mainstream full-size notebook CPUs.

We also know the graphics performance from the AvP demo. I'd guess around Radeon 5450 performance judging from detail and framerate. Getting an Athlon X2, 5450 and full northbridge in 18W is a huge improvement over today for AMD's notebooks.

Ontario covers a range of TDPs down to 5.5W in the first iteration (1 core + NB) and that's on TSMC 40nm (which is probably inferior to Intel's low power 45nm) so even lower TDPs should be possible when it's shrunk to GF 28nm as it probably will be.

Bobcat was designed to be 1-10W per core excluding graphics and NB, so even 5.5W can't be the lowest a CPU could achieve.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

How does BGA mean smaller form factors?

P.S. I noticed the word "lidless" mentioned during my internet search of BGA. Is this done to reduce the size/weight of the hsf needed? Do all BGA socketed processors come lidless?

To give you a practical example (since the other links give the thermal data etc.)

Intel's i5 520m comes in both rPGA and BGA forms, the rPGA chip measures 37.5mmx 37.5mm, while the BGA chip measures 34mmx28mm. That's nearly a 50% reduction in the footprint for a chip that performs exactly the same as the rPGA chip.

 

[wirednuts]

i think the really cool cpu would be one that can go from around 4w at lower speed/idle to a desktop-like performance with the normal 80w or so tdp... on the fly like speedstep or cool n quiet works now. make it so you can customize profiles with any speed you want... so basically it would be a multi-platform chip that could be used in a number of ways.

and if all chips could be like that, it would be a heck of a lot easier to use new parts for high performance and then when they get demoted to server use or whatever, you wont be still paying for it on the electric meter.

 

[cbn]

i think the really cool cpu would be one that can go from around 10w at lower speed/idle to a desktop-like performance with the normal 80w or so tdp... on the fly like speedstep or cool n quiet works now. make it so you can customize profiles with any speed you want... so basically it would be a multi-platform chip that could be used in a number of ways.

and if all chips could be like that, it would be a heck of a lot easier to use new parts for high performance and then when they get demoted to server use or whatever, you wont be still paying for it on the electric meter.

I like this idea also. In some ways Intel is already doing this now with their arrandale CULV parts (For example Core i7-640um is capable of 88 percent overclock with turbo mode kicking in).

 

[IntelUser2000]

They are already doing that. It's called power management. The CPU portion consumes few single watts of power for the Core i7 when idle.

You can do that with Core 2's and Phenoms already. Use "Max battery" setting on Windows and it'll never clock above idle EIST/C&Q clock.

 

[LoneNinja]

i think the really cool cpu would be one that can go from around 4w at lower speed/idle to a desktop-like performance with the normal 80w or so tdp... on the fly like speedstep or cool n quiet works now. make it so you can customize profiles with any speed you want... so basically it would be a multi-platform chip that could be used in a number of ways.

and if all chips could be like that, it would be a heck of a lot easier to use new parts for high performance and then when they get demoted to server use or whatever, you wont be still paying for it on the electric meter.

You can already do that if you've got an Athlon X2 7X00, Phenom X3/X4, Athlon II X2/X3/X4, Phenom II X2/X3/X4/X6, and even some of AMD's mobile parts. Anything based off the K10 arch can do this through the program K10stat, though you probably won't reach 4W idle, you can completely customize Cool N quiet and manually set voltages/clock speeds to your liking. I'm hoping this software still works for Llano as it's technically a tweaked K10, and it would be nice to have something like this for Bulldozer as well.