AMD now producing 2.0 Ghz SOI processors.

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: shady06
quick question: what does the 246, 244, etc... stand for

Opteron XYY

X = number of supported processors, 1 = 1 way, 2 = dual, etc.

YY = speed... thus far, 40 = 1.4 Ghz, 42 = 1.6 Ghz, 44 = 1.8 Ghz, and 46 = 2.0 ghz

stevejst
No offense... but your statements seem pretty ignorant. You forget that the Opteron and Athlon-64 are using SOI, which increases the headroom on AMD's current .13 process. So your theory that 2.3 Ghz is the limit is a theory based on incomplete information.
You also fail to mention that Intel's heat problems with the Prescott have yet to be solved... not to mention that it's being manufactured on a brand new .09 micron process... and as we all know, it takes some time for new manufacturing processes to mature to get the best performance out of them.
So your assumption that AMD is out of the game, and that the Prescott is being sent down from heaven is, in the nicest terms possible, ignorant.

LOL

 

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The one thing most people are forgetting is that all these benchmarks for the Athlon 64 are being run with cas 2.5. Which is a pretty significant penalty. If they can release it so it can run with cas 2 unbuffered memory, 1 mb cache or 512, it will be faster then the P4.

 

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Originally posted by: stevejst

AMDZone has a review up of the Opteron 246(2.0gig) as well at the opty 144(1.8gig) along with an Athlon XP 3200+ and a P4 3.2 gig for comparison. Looks like 2 gig is the magic number. The 2 gig Opty won 11 out of 17 benchies to the P4s 5.

1. "AMDzone" (choice of tests, 2 gig of registered memory?).
2. You cannot buy this Opteron 246 anywhere, and if you could (Monarch Computer puts the price) it is $800 and used with registered DDR PC3200, think of investment that fizzles. It is another paper release of processor that is going to get killed every which way when Intel releases Prescott. Remember Pentium 3.2 is available in retail PCs already for months. Intel already has Prescott, they are only waiting AMD to catch up on release while they are making money on HT. Then you'll see the real king of Q4 this year - Prescott.
3. Another thing, this is still 0.13 process meaning 2 GHz is a magic mark but you should not expect anything above 2.3 GHz anyway. Prescott will come up to 4 GHz speed. And this is all that AMD has and will have in the next 2 years, according to roadmaps. Intel has already annonced development of Teya, successor of Prescott that will go close to 5 GHz.

Amd is toast. I have 8-9 AMD PCs but I have no plan of making another with these prices and performance. And of course I understand that AMD cannot make it with limited money and research. I am only sick of all these years of hype with Hammer (3 already) and paper releases of processors that have no real bite when they really hit the retail market. Many overclockers are switching to Intel with a reason. For a workhorse AMD is OK and nothing more than that.

I dont understand why anyone would compare an athlon 64 to anything else but a prescott. Obviously its gonna be faster than the 3.2 because its a newer generation of chip. Compare it to the prescott and not the old timers. Thats like me comparing my turbocharged chevy to ure nonturbo chevy. And no theres no sake in comparing the two.