AMD Longevity

MichaelZ · Apr 30, 2004

u know... back in the pentium 2 days, i've heard people say the same thing about the celeron. heh.

Gravity · Apr 30, 2004

Your system may slow down over time but it's not the clock speed of your proc that slows. It's normally your drive that gets fragmented and filled with misc crap. Your ram and proc won't change speeds unless you do something to alter their performance.

buleyb · Apr 30, 2004

No, I believe it. I've heard that salespeople get dumber the longer you talk to them, so maybe the same applies here

PliotronX · Apr 30, 2004

Yeah dude, all the smart people know Intel's chips are the best and they have diodes that make them INVISDABLE against static discharge! This guy is obviously in the know.

JBT · Apr 30, 2004

Sounds like my local computer store guy who said I am at half my potential performance with my 9500 Pro because I only had a 4x AGP slot at the time.. I was like no dude you are totaly wrong there... 8x vs 4x is all marketing crap. He didn't belive me. so I left Oh well no prob never went back there again anyways. I just needed a fan real quick hehe

0ptimist · Apr 30, 2004

Rule#1: Never believe the salesperson, he always has his own agenda.

Brian48 · Apr 30, 2004

This is one of the biggest loads of crock I've heard yet from a salesman.

Your PC gets slower over a period of time? One word: REFORMAT.

AtomicX · Apr 30, 2004

And don't forget, always ask them 1st if they work on comission for their sailes. If so, that's why he's steering you towards Pentiums, more cash mor commish!!

Everytime i walk into a store and a sale person approches me, stop them dead in their tracks and ask them, "you work on commission, if yes, bub bye!

boran · Apr 30, 2004

the problem with salesppl here is that they have had an economic education (albeit not long) and dont know jack sjite about PC's, and dont have the willingness to even know. they're just as ignorant as your average spam-supporting vî@gr@ buyer. I really have to restrain myself from shouting at em when I go into shops, because I cant stand the nonsense they spout, selling utter junk etc, hell, they just have NO idea what the hell they are selling and are just mentally quoting brochures.

thorin · Apr 30, 2004

Originally posted by: SBGTF
So I went down to the local chop shop and inquired about buying some parts for an AMD system (specifically A64). I was cautioned by the sales person to consider Intel because (and this was a direct quote)

"AMD Processors tend to get slower the longer you run them."

His implication was that the processor would be great out of the box but over 3, 6, 9 months I would start to see the processor slow down.

OMFG that's unbelievable. On top of that he probably wonders why he only gets paid minimum wage.....freakin idiots abound

:roll:

Thorin

classy · Apr 30, 2004

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
BS

The salesman should find a new product to sell.

Adul · Apr 30, 2004

he's an idiot. Mind telling us where you encountered this sales person so we can go down there and mock him.

PanzerIV · Apr 30, 2004

Ummm yeah and Intel makes the Internet go faster. :roll:

What a moron. God, I hope he's not an Anandtech member.

DAPUNISHER · Apr 30, 2004

"AMD Processors tend to get slower the longer you run them."

I'd of responded "Ok, so you are recommending I save myself 9 months and get a Celeron so I can go straight to slow?"

zodder · Apr 30, 2004

Needless to say, that's ghey.

jrphoenix · Apr 30, 2004

Only with EXTREME!!!!! overclocking???? Othewise BS!

AluminumStudios · Apr 30, 2004

That's as good as the time I heard a Best Buy sales rep telling a customer that he'll get better quality burning audio to "music" CDs instead of computer "data" CDs.

BS.

Edit: BTW - you should print this thread out and take it into him. All of these people can't be wrong.

Cerb · Apr 30, 2004

This doesn't happen. He's got FUD.

DAPUNISHER · Apr 30, 2004

Originally posted by: jrphoenix
Only with EXTREME!!!!! overclocking???? Othewise BS!

Yes, but even that extends to Intel CPUs as well so it would still be wrong to single out AMD.

jrphoenix · Apr 30, 2004

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: jrphoenix
Only with EXTREME!!!!! overclocking???? Othewise BS!

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Yes, but even that extends to Intel CPUs as well so it would still be wrong to single out AMD.

True.... Extreme overclocking without adequate (sometimes even with adequate) cooling will kill a processor quickly

Transistor · Apr 30, 2004

There is no way that an AMD CPU can run slower over time on it's own. The CPU clock frequency is controlled by the motherboard's timing circuit. Something on the motherboard would have to tell the CPU to run slower. Most desktop motherboards don't change the timing of the CPU on their own. However, MSI did make a motherboard that overclocked the CPU automatically at times, but this would not make a PC run slower after several months. So, there is nothing in the CPU that controls it's speed over time and would cause it to run slower after several months. The motherboard's timing circuit will run the CPU at the same speed for the entire life of the PC. Unless of course you go into BIOS and change the frequency manually to run at a different speed, ie. overclocking, etc. But it won't automatically do this on it's own.

The only reason a CPU may slow itself down on it's own is because of heat. I know that P4s have cpu throttling when they overheat, which makes them run slower. If over time the fan on the HSF got dirty and stopped working, then the P4 may throttle performance when it gets very hot and slow down. I'm not 100% sure on how the Athlon 64 thermal protection works, but I think it just shuts the PC off and does not throttle like the P4 does. So, you would never see an AMD processor run slower over time. You could see a P4 run slower over time if it's heat sink fan was dying a slow death and caused the PC to overheat more and more every day and the P4 throttled more and more every day.

Jeff7 · Apr 30, 2004

Yes, they just get tired. They need a full 2 trillion cycles worth of rest every day or else they get fatigued. :roll:
Intel's marketing machine has done a good job of brainwashing the masses. Too bad AMD's marketing team probably wouldn't even be able to sell a dating service to the ATOT community.

(you know it'd be a ripe market)

KevinH · Apr 30, 2004

Originally posted by: magomago
he is prolly a die hard intel fan who hates AMD that much he enjoys to lie

Either that or he gets better commision on intels for whatever odd reason. Btw, I've seen quite a few of you guys mention FUD. What is that?

DAPUNISHER · Apr 30, 2004

FUD=Fvcked up data

I should mention it started out as fear, uncertainty, doubt.

FUD

Markfw · Apr 30, 2004

Originally posted by: jrphoenix

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER

Originally posted by: jrphoenix
Only with EXTREME!!!!! overclocking???? Othewise BS!

Click to expand...

Yes, but even that extends to Intel CPUs as well so it would still be wrong to single out AMD.

Click to expand...

True.... Extreme overclocking without adequate (sometimes even with adequate) cooling will kill a processor quickly

It won;t slow it down, it will just die in that case, so he's still dead wrong.

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