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SBGTF

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So I went down to the local chop shop and inquired about buying some parts for an AMD system (specifically A64). I was cautioned by the sales person to consider Intel because (and this was a direct quote)

"AMD Processors tend to get slower the longer you run them."

His implication was that the processor would be great out of the box but over 3, 6, 9 months I would start to see the processor slow down.

I have never heard anything of the sort before.

I REALLY don't want to turn this into an Intel v AMD thing. I just want to verify or dispute what the salesman told me.

I have already decided to go AMD because I want 64 bit.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

SBGTF
 
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Addikt

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Well I have actually read a lot about the Athlon 64 series of chips to run very cool. I assume that the chip could break down if not properly cooled but maybe this salespersons has dealt with those who do not track their CPU temps and let the system overheat, thus damaging the chip. This could cause him to have a bias toward Intel, but usually salespeople don't really know anything if you frequent stores like BestBuy and FutureShop, or something of that nature. They might even just be pushing you to buy Intel to get rid of older stock or even make more off the sale since Intel chips are more expensive.

I tried to be as skeptical as I could be when selecting the processor for my new system and have heard and continue to hear great things about the Athlon 64 chips.

Cheers.
 
Markfw

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From somebody with 8 AMD systems, and has had them for years BULLSH!T No slowdowns at all.
 
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Peter D

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WTF?

Only thing I can think of is that he might be talking about the system in general and that Windows itself is slowing down due to programs being installed, space being taken up, Spyware, etc, and he's too dumb and thinks it's the processor.. :confused:

EDIT: Or of course, he's an Intel Fanboy :D
 
exar333

exar333

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Hmm...and we wonder why Intel still has a such a large marketshare?? LOL...Don't get me wrong, I like Intel too, but salespeople like this really don't help competition....
 
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caz67

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All full of crap.

I am in the process of building an FX series AMD system.
 
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greekgeek

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IMO this is just bullshit, BUT the funny thing is I know a lot of people who actually believe that.

Just the other day I was telling a sysadmin friend of mine (very knowledgable and very 'certified') about setting up an office network using Athlons, and he says "Those AMDs are really cheap but their performance really drops after a while". Apparently this is the general sentiment around where I work also...
 
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Dennis Travis

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MY GOD. Now I have heard everything and can die and go to AMD Heaven in Peace! That is the biggest LIE I have ever heard. But do Remember, Intel DOES have NetBurst so maybe it does have SpyBurst and AntiVirusBurst also and keeps the HDD clean of all that FUD!

I thought I had heard it all but tonight proved me wrong.
 
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dkozloski

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He's got to be a Democrat to be able to say something like that with a straight face. There's no such thing as sin to a born degenerate.
 
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magomago

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haha...a lot of FUD on AMD's side with the consumers.
I'm actually amazed at how many ICS/CS majors at my school are utterly stupid when it comes to computer hardware...evne basic hardware

My friend is a uber programmer~ the stuff he knows is pretty crazy, BUT he doesn't know anything about processors to save the life of him.

"There is a reason that Athlons are Cheap"
"Intel is much more reliable"


Those are the two most common I've heard tho


The one i like the best though is when i'm talkling to someone who has been "reaseraching" computers....and somehow they come to a conclusion that a XX Ghz Celeron is a better choice than an Athlon
 
zephyrprime

zephyrprime

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Nonsense.

All ICs do degrade over time but it takes a really long time. So long that most companies don't bother measuring the lifetime of the products because it's assumed to be longer than it's useful life. Even if an IC did degrade, it wouldn't slow down. It would just crash a lot or not start up eventually.
 
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drag

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This is a trick I learned a long time ago when looking at new speakers when I was a kid:

With sales people play stupid.

Especially anything to do with electronics or anything that most people find bafflying. Anything remotely technical.

Some types of transactions, of course, you have to play smart, like if your buying something for a specific purpose you need to comunicate clearly so it's not always usefull.


Be like:

"Duh, so what's a fast prossor, like 2 megs or 3 megs?"

(Also a good trick is to ask him something that you already know the answer to. This is good if you don't know a lot about a subject, but know a couple things, that way even if your not sure then you can have a chance at catching a lie or 2.)

Let the guy ramble on, if he starts lying or doesn't know what he is talking about then just say bye and leave, or do like I do and nod and smile like a dipshit and let him entertain you for a hour or so. It's better then watching "friends", plus you get the satisfaction of preventing unwary customers getting ripped off by him for that hour and you just wasted his time and he figures he missed out on a fat comission.

If he's just ignorant then that's forgivable, but watch out. You don't want to pay 150 bucks for a gigabyte switch only to open a box later and find a 5 port 10Mbit hub because the idgit can't tell the difference and got the inventory number messed up.
 
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n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: drag
This is a trick I learned a long time ago when looking at new speakers when I was a kid:

With sales people play stupid.

Especially anything to do with electronics or anything that most people find bafflying. Anything remotely technical.

Some types of transactions, of course, you have to play smart, like if your buying something for a specific purpose you need to comunicate clearly so it's not always usefull.


Be like:

"Duh, so what's a fast prossor, like 2 megs or 3 megs?"

Let the guy ramble on, if he starts lying or doesn't know what he is talking about then just say bye and leave, or do like I do and nod and smile like a dipshit and let him entertain you for a hour or so. It's better then watching "friends", plus you get the satisfaction of preventing unwary customers getting ripped off by him for that hour and you just wasted his time and he figures he missed out on a fat comission.

If he's just ignorant then that's forgivable, but watch out. You don't want to pay 150 bucks for a gigabyte switch only to open a box later and find a 5 port 10Mbit hub because the idgit can't tell the difference and got the inventory number messed up.
Click to expand...

That's why I started opening things either immediately after paying for them, or after I get to my car.

Of course, I've never had problems returning those kinds of mix ups. :)
 
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Acanthus

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I had a guy reccomend me a Geforce 4 MX for a gaming card once when i was just messing around with him. I laughed out loud when he picked up the box and said "this is a great gaming card, one of the best out there and its pretty cheap".
 
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